If you want my professional psychological opinion (took 2 quarters of it in college), you've outgrown Jones and it's time to move on to another B/D. (Assuming you don't hate the business, too.)

Good luck.

[quote=SonnyClips]I f**king hate Jones and Doorknocking Just Sucks. I got my pay and after everything was taken out for Chamber Membership, Health Care and other miscellaney I was afraid I would open my check and it would be a bill.

I was told I would get a Goodknight if I hit a certain number and it never materialized. My Regional leader looks like the cop on Reno 911 with the dark hair, mustache and the Bowl Cut. My Mentor did a talk on Roth 401(k)s and didn't know a bunch of elemental facts about the goddam things. We have one women IR who wheres polyester pants for godsakes.

The other day I went to meet with a American Fund Rep and I just couldn't believe what a fake plastic idiot the guy was. Doing his same spiel that he does for every new IR with the ICA mountain chart and the whole "put your right finger anywhere on the chart" tired sales shtick. Jesus christ I thought thats me. Who the f**k am I becoming?

What the hell right? I sit at home reading this sh*t too much and go f**king crazy from isolation and boredum. So I took another Job as a writer where I work from home. I figure I can double dip for a while and move on when they wise up. [/quote]

Sonny I think you are a good guy but cmon now. You are mad because you hit a certain target and you didn't get several million in assets laid in your lap. Respect isn't given it is earned. Build a big office and take care of things yourself rather than depending on another to make your life better!

Sonny,

I told you it was dangerous to read this forum without enough experience to leave Jones at will.  I dont understand how anyone could read the stuff here, even after taking it with a grain of salt, and stay at Jones long term.  Even with the screwball perspective that comes from reading the crap here only the freaks and geeks would stay.(Well the GP's stay but that's another story).  Go to BofA like the rest of the people in your region.

I poured my kool-aid out. Left on Friday. Had only been there 18 mos. Felt like Sonny… just trapped. When you think about it Jones is sorta like the worlds largest most elaboate pyramid scheme… in a way. I am not gonna start hateing on Jones, but I am just relieved I am gone. Going to work at a bank.

Valuebroker:They’ll parachute some newbie into your old office (after all jones still trains 200/mo) and the newbie will tell all YOUR customers how you weren’t “making it” and jones didn’t like the way you did biz., and then when the “newbie” (oldbie) leaves jones, they’ll parachute another newbie in and the bull**it will start all over again. Pyramid scheme indeed. 

Grow up child.  You don’t have the maturity to be responsible for handling peoples money anyway.  Now you can go away and be a writer. 

Sonny,

I wish I could say that I am surprised, but I'm not.  You seem to think things through reasonably (except perhaps when it comes to politics) and I expected you to come to this conclusion, although perhaps not this quickly.  If I were you, I'd bide my time, take good care of your a-list clients, and extract whatever economic benefit you can from your current gig, then move when the time is right.  investigate your replacement gig carefully, and realize that this kind of bullsh*t is always possible as long as you are workin' for da man...see my sig line below...

If you plan to be a writer it would be a good idea if you learned to spell first.  Especially if you hope to get PAID for it.

Next I'd concentrate on sentence structure and punctuation.

You know?  It might be better to "keep your day job" and stop whining.

Sonny,

I seem to remember back a few months when you were spouting off ideas and information like you were a 10 yr vet...  Then didn't someone tell you to wait until you were in the biz for a while before dispensing your thoughts.

I've respected most of what you've said up until this point.  Here's the question I pose to you...

If someone else posted exactly what you posted in the last few days, what would be your advice to them???

[quote=Big Easy Flood]

If you plan to be a writer it would be a good idea if you learned to spell first.  Especially if you hope to get PAID for it.

Next I'd concentrate on sentence structure and punctuation.

You know?  It might be better to "keep your day job" and stop whining.

Hey guys to take this thread back to the original roots.

I am sort of the same boat as the orignal poster. I have just gotten liscenced and I am doing ok lots of prospects in my system at EJ and making calls. I am getting a good response with my the calls. But it is for very little $$$ and people are telling me that is what they have. I am in small suburb where I grew up. In all my plans I wanted to move to Toronto which is where all the money is and most of my clients with big networks. I thought it would be good for me to learn here first and then move. But after reading the RJ website it seems that might be a better fit. I get to own my book and learn in a branch office environment daily from successfull reps. Then move out as a independent contractor. Which is my ultimate goal, that is why I left the corporate world in the first place. I dont mind doorknocking and cold calling, in fact i like cold calling alot. But I dont get to do it with EJ.

And can someone tell me or justify me not owning my book. That is eating at me everyday. And the main reason i called RJ today to see my options.

I need Kool-Aid…or do I?

If you're young, and I think you are, and you're prospecting among your friends and or their parents you are going to find that your friends don't have any money and people who knew you as a punk high school kid are not going to tell you what they have, much less let you have access to it.

Which "god" are you praying to?  And using the Lord's name in vain?  Hey, you will never get anywhere until you get yourself right.

The name of the Lord's son should not slip off of your pen like a common swear word.

I am young but I am lucky to have networked at a young age. And I have 2 million in assets as a starter. But my prospecting has been mostly on my door knocks so they have been random people. Its alot of big houses with big mortgages. The neighbourhood has been tried by 2 other brokers only for them to fall on their faces. That doesnt really deter me. I am doing preety well.

Also all my friends parents have told me what they have. And are giving me their moneys. But still I know that is not enough. RJ take brokers with 5 years experience only though. Very rare for them to hire brokers with less then that, is what i got told by them.

[quote=maybeeeeeeee]Which “god” are you praying to?  And using the Lord’s name in vain?  Hey, you will never get anywhere until you get yourself right.

The name of the Lord's son should not slip off of your pen like a common swear word.[/quote]

Amen, sister B...I take it an offensive post was deleted in the interim?