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[quote=VotedforKerry][quote=Starka]
I'm curious, VfK.
Why would you think that cleaning latrines (or "heads" in the Navy and Marine Corps) is somehow a dishonorable duty? (On that subject, those duties are assigned by NCOs, not officers.) Why is pride in one's service a negative in your eyes? Why is it perfectly acceptable to vote for the candidate of your choice, yet citizens voting for other candidates are not worthy of the same right, yet seem to be fair game for personal, ad hominem attacks? Is there no room in your political philosophy for dissent? Doesn't that seem narrow-minded and smack of totalitarianism to you?
If you want to make a case for your point of view, fine! I'll listen. Respectfully, so far your case doesn't hold water.
Shame on you Sooth, having your sister, Starka, write that post. But I will once again apologize, cleaning latrines is not dishonorable, God forbid the battlefield should smell like crap it's bad enough with decomposing bodies littered about. But this will be my last post on this subject. Your post has convinced me how narrow minded I really am. I will leave the Democratic Party and become the Pro Iraq War, Evangelical Christian, Pro-Life, Republican that I should be. Whoa. I feel great now. You've changed my life. GO BUSH!!! Thanks again Sooth and Starka.
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Just like a liberal to paint everyone to the right of him as being radical, one dimensional, and subscribing to a fundamental interpretation of the Bible. That's right bud.....you Dems are al sooooo inclusive and diverse, but us Republicans are all the same....just a bunch of intolerant clones.
No...we just believe in personal responsibility, and you don't.....you expect the government to fix all your problems. That is the biggest difference between the two parties and their adherents!
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No...we just believe in personal responsibility, and you don't.....you expect the government to fix all your problems. That is the biggest difference between the two parties and their adherents![/quote]
Welfare needs retooling or even abolishing. Hell cant we get a president like FDR who takes this money and atleast makes people work - who cares if it is to plant trees or make highways or even work in a daycare - free food for being lazy needs to go away in a hurry.
Not sure what other states are but in IL it is a joke how easy it can be misused and people can stay on it for years if they know the loopholes.
[quote=joedabrkr][quote=VotedforKerry][quote=Starka]
I'm curious, VfK.
Why would you think that cleaning latrines (or "heads" in the Navy and Marine Corps) is somehow a dishonorable duty? (On that subject, those duties are assigned by NCOs, not officers.) Why is pride in one's service a negative in your eyes? Why is it perfectly acceptable to vote for the candidate of your choice, yet citizens voting for other candidates are not worthy of the same right, yet seem to be fair game for personal, ad hominem attacks? Is there no room in your political philosophy for dissent? Doesn't that seem narrow-minded and smack of totalitarianism to you?
If you want to make a case for your point of view, fine! I'll listen. Respectfully, so far your case doesn't hold water.
Shame on you Sooth, having your sister, Starka, write that post. But I will once again apologize, cleaning latrines is not dishonorable, God forbid the battlefield should smell like crap it's bad enough with decomposing bodies littered about. But this will be my last post on this subject. Your post has convinced me how narrow minded I really am. I will leave the Democratic Party and become the Pro Iraq War, Evangelical Christian, Pro-Life, Republican that I should be. Whoa. I feel great now. You've changed my life. GO BUSH!!! Thanks again Sooth and Starka.
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Just like a liberal to paint everyone to the right of him as being radical, one dimensional, and subscribing to a fundamental interpretation of the Bible. That's right bud.....you Dems are al sooooo inclusive and diverse, but us Republicans are all the same....just a bunch of intolerant clones.
No...we just believe in personal responsibility, and you don't.....you expect the government to fix all your problems. That is the biggest difference between the two parties and their adherents!
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“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”
- John Stuart Mill (1806-1873)
Philosopher, economist
[quote=Juiced6][quote]
No...we just believe in personal responsibility, and you don't.....you expect the government to fix all your problems. That is the biggest difference between the two parties and their adherents![/quote]
Welfare needs retooling or even abolishing. Hell cant we get a
president like FDR who takes this money and atleast makes people work -
who cares if it is to plant trees or make highways or even work in a
daycare - free food for being lazy needs to go away in a hurry.
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NO! You can't. EVERY time a work requirement passes the
state legisltatures (you know--the representatives elected by the
PEOPLE) a LIBERAL lawyer seeks out a LIBERAL judge who says that it is
not constitutional to make people work for their welfare.
Every time a legislature tries to cut welfare, a LIBERAL lawyer goes before a LIBERAL judge who rules that welfare can't be cut.
To the liberal, welfare is good, work is bad. The very core of
liberalism, and the modern democratic party, is wealth
redistribution. You know, taking money from hard-working people
like you and your clients and giving it to those who don't want to work
in this EVIL (sarcasm) capitalist system.
[quote=Juiced6]
Not sure what other states are but in IL it is a joke how easy it can be misused and people can stay on it for years if they know the loopholes.
[/quote]I just saw an article in the paper about a crack-down on welfare fraud. A family was on welfare and accumulated considerable wealth. They received welfare payments EVERY month for the past 24 YEARS.
Oh yeah, and not only did the Democrats fiercely oppose Welfare Reform in the mid-1990s, but they wanted to do away with it after a few years!
Every time a democrat opens his or her mouth he or she proposes a new government program. (You've just got to love Hillary Clinton's proposal for a national welfare hotline, don't you?). Every time a program is proposed it takes money from the taxpayers to fund it. Then the Democrats bestow that money upon selected groups who in turn rally support for the Democrats come election time.
It is nothing more than vote-buying. Nothing more.
[quote=inquisitive] [quote=menotellname]
“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”
- John Stuart Mill (1806-1873)
Philosopher, economist
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And that is why the group with the lowest IQs, lowest school performance, lowest incomes, and highest unemployment, highest crime and prison incarceration rates consistently votes 90% for Democrats, huh?
Pick any Democratic-voting stronghold. Oh, Detroit, DC, Chicago, Baltimore, Indianapolis, Cinci, and you'll find shootings every night. Decay and destruction is all you'll find. Once strong, vibrant cities totally and completely destroyed by Democratic-voting scum.
I guess in menotellname's world drive-by shootings are the hallmark of intelligence. I guess 1 out of every 3 of your male core voting base spending time in state or federal prison during his lifetime is a sign of intelligence.
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“Curiosity is one of the lowest of the human faculties. You will have noticed in daily life that when people are inquisitive they nearly always have bad memories and are usually stupid at bottom.”
- E.M. Forster (1879-1970)
English novelist
from Aspects of the Novel, ch. 5, "The Plot," 1927.
[quote=inquisitive][quote=menotellname]“The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something to them we are missing.”
- Gamel Abdel Nasser [/quote]
Hence we see yet another example of the anti-American sentiment of the liberal.
Say, menotellname, why don't you head on off to Africa and live your life if America is so bad. Then you can starve to death with your bruthas.
There is no place on earth where you'd live a better life than in this country. Thank your lucky stars you are here.
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“The whole dream of democracy is to raise the proletarian to the level of stupidity attained by the bourgeois.”
- Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)
[quote=Juiced6]
Bush did lie -
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.wmd.report/
so what did we go to war for?
[/quote]Sorry, bud, but we are not living in a world of perfect information.
FACT: Saddam Hussein at one time possessed chemical weapons.
FACT: Saddam Hussein NEVER conclusively proved that he destroyed those weapons as REQUIRED under NUMEROUS UN resolutions. (Read them for yourself--I have.)
FACT: Saddam Hussein repeatedly obstructed the progress of UN weapons inspectors all the way through the 1990s. (Didn't you read those Clinton quotes? Even Clinton says Saddam was obstructing, as did the UN.)
FACT: Saddam provided cash payments to families of Palestinian suicide bombers as an enticement and reward for carrying out acts of terrorism. Thus he was a terrorist.
Where are those WMDs? They could be anywhere. Buried in a sand dune. Syria. Who knows? But we know he DID have them. We know that Saddam never provided proof he destroyed them. Thus we could not wait.
If Saddam destroyed them as required, why didn't he provide proof? Why didn't he provide proof in 1995? 1998? 2002?
Your reasoning is that of a simpleton. No disrespect intended.
To lie one must KNOWINGLY say something that one knows for certain that is untrue.
If your wife asks you if it is going to rain, and if after checking the news and seeing a forecast for rain you tell her it is going to rain, does it mean you lied if it doesn't rain?
Or did you just get bad information?
This is the way it works: whatever the outcome of a situation the Democrats will ALWAYS criticize.
After 9/11: Bush didn't do enough to prevent terrorism before 9/11.
After the US gets serious about terrorism: there is no threat of terrorism and Bush is just trying to scare voters into voting for him.
Liberals love to criticize all the terror precautions, the color-coded alert levels, the Patriot Act, and everything else Bush does. But if and when the next terrorist attack occurs, be sure that they will criticize 180 degrees of what they were criticizing before.
I can guarantee you that if Bush didn't go into Iraq (with the full blessing of just about EVERY Democrat Senator and Representative), they would be criticizing his inaction in enforcing the UN resolutions.
One more thing: THE "INSURGENTS" IN IRAQ ARE NOT FIGHTING ON BEHALF OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE!!!
No, Liberals, the "insurgents" are not freedom fighters. They were not elected by the Iraqi people--who, by the way, were very happy to have the chance to vote. Or did you not notice that???
Saying that the "insurgents" are fighting for the Iraqi people is like saying Timothy McVeigh, another terrorist, was fighting for the American people. Not true in either case.
The terrorists in Iraq are targeting their fellow Muslims. Women, children, the elderly--all are targets to the "insurgents".
This is more faulty liberal logic at its finest. The liberal is blinded by his own hatred of the United States. The liberal thinks that ANY faction fighting against US interests must be good, even if that faction is killing anyone and everyone in sight, even his own people.
[quote=menotellname]
[quote=inquisitive][quote=menotellname]“The
genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves,
only complicated stupid moves which make us wonder at the possibility
that there may be something to them we are missing.”
- Gamel Abdel Nasser [/quote]
Hence we see yet another example of the anti-American sentiment of the liberal.
Say,
menotellname, why don’t you head on off to Africa and live your life if
America is so bad. Then you can starve to death with your bruthas.
There is no place on earth where you’d live a better life than in this country. Thank your lucky stars you are here.
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“The whole dream of democracy is to raise the proletarian to the level of stupidity attained by the bourgeois.”
- Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)
Your quotes are so fitting...for yourself.
The fact is that neither you nor I would have a better life anywhere else but America.
Why can't you put aside your anti-Americanism for one second and admit that?
[quote=inquisitive] [quote=menotellname]
[quote=inquisitive][quote=menotellname]“The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something to them we are missing.”
- Gamel Abdel Nasser [/quote]
Hence we see yet another example of the anti-American sentiment of the liberal.
Say, menotellname, why don't you head on off to Africa and live your life if America is so bad. Then you can starve to death with your bruthas.
There is no place on earth where you'd live a better life than in this country. Thank your lucky stars you are here.
[/quote]
“The whole dream of democracy is to raise the proletarian to the level of stupidity attained by the bourgeois.”
- Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)
[/quote]
Your quotes are so fitting...for yourself.
The fact is that neither you nor I would have a better life anywhere else but America.
Why can't you put aside your anti-Americanism for one second and admit that?
[/quote]
I just googled some info about countries with the highest standard of living and found this list of the top ten. (However, this is for the years 2003-2004). Thought it would be interesting to share it with you.
World Top 10 - Countries with Highest
Standard of Living
Country
1. Norway
2. Sweden
3. Canada
4. Belgium
5. Australia
6. United States
7. Iceland
8. Netherlands
9. Japan
10. Finland
For you Mr. Stupid/Inquisitive
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-quali ty-of-life-map.html
Menotellname, can you think for yourself or do you simply read a book of quotes from deservedly obscure 19th century writers for your political philosophy?
[quote=Starka]Menotellname, can you think for yourself or do you simply read a book of quotes from deservedly obscure 19th century writers for your political philosophy?[/quote]
Starka,
Thank you for your reply. I think rather well. I am glad that you asked.
[quote=NeverShort]"World Top 10 - Countries with Highest
Standard of Living "
By what criteria?
[/quote]
I think the hottest chicks.
[quote=menotellname]
[quote=Starka]Menotellname, can you think for yourself or do you simply read a book of quotes from deservedly obscure 19th century writers for your political philosophy?[/quote]
Starka,
Thank you for your reply. I think rather well. I am glad that you asked.
[/quote]
Menotellname,
You hide it extraordinarily well.
[quote=Starka][quote=menotellname]
[quote=Starka]Menotellname, can you think for yourself or do you simply read a book of quotes from deservedly obscure 19th century writers for your political philosophy?[/quote]
Starka,
Thank you for your reply. I think rather well. I am glad that you asked.
[/quote]
Menotellname,
You hide it extraordinarily well.
[/quote]
The feeling is mutual (feel the love).
[quote=NeverShort]"World Top 10 - Countries with Highest
Standard of Living "
By what criteria?
[/quote]
Human Development Index
...take a look...we're losing ground...down to #8 in 2004
http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/pdf/presskit/HDR04_P KE_HDI.pdf
Data by indicators:
http://hdr.undp.org/statistics/data/index_alpha_indicators.c fm
[quote=menotellname][quote=Starka][quote=menotellname]
[quote=Starka]Menotellname, can you think for yourself or do you simply read a book of quotes from deservedly obscure 19th century writers for your political philosophy?[/quote]
Starka,
Thank you for your reply. I think rather well. I am glad that you asked.
[/quote]
Menotellname,
You hide it extraordinarily well.
[/quote]
The feeling is mutual (feel the love).
[/quote]
Truly a snappy comeback! About what we'd expect from a dynamic intellect such as yours!
Congratulations! You've outdone yourself!
[quote=Starka][quote=menotellname][quote=Starka][quote=menotellname]
[quote=Starka]Menotellname, can you think for yourself or do you simply read a book of quotes from deservedly obscure 19th century writers for your political philosophy?[/quote]
Starka,
Thank you for your reply. I think rather well. I am glad that you asked.
[/quote]
Menotellname,
You hide it extraordinarily well.
[/quote]
The feeling is mutual (feel the love).
[/quote]
Truly a snappy comeback! About what we'd expect from a dynamic intellect such as yours!
Congratulations! You've outdone yourself!
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I didn't want to confuse you. I tend to take it easy on those that are less mentally gifted (like you and inquisitive).
Here...they sent this to my email box today. Don't strain yourself.
Truncated as not to abuse your intellect...
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Luckily for me, I don’t need an organization’s e-mail to remind me that I’m a genius.