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That would be a good thread! Let's get some good Weddle rumors going.Most of the EDJ conspiracy theories lately have been kind of lame (Could this be the end of EDJ? EDJ in the news for a lawsuit!).
I still think the spying on brokers is a valid one, but you guys shot all kinds of holes in that one.
Here is one for you - Wind is Jim Weddle in disquise.
That would be a good thread! Let's get some good Weddle rumors going.[/quote] Don't disquise him too hard, or you might be disquieted with what discharge disquirts out.[quote=Moraen]Most of the EDJ conspiracy theories lately have been kind of lame (Could this be the end of EDJ? EDJ in the news for a lawsuit!).
I still think the spying on brokers is a valid one, but you guys shot all kinds of holes in that one.
Here is one for you - Wind is Jim Weddle in disquise.
[quote=Spaceman Spiff]Yeah, OK. Whatever.
I guess then that I'll refrain from making any comments at all about any wholesalers period. Because I've not met "most" of them. You know what it means to get defensive? It means that you're reacting to being attacked. Had he put a preemptive (that means before anyone else could say anything) comment in there like back on page one, then I would agree with you. However, since he was already being attacked and made fun of, I am going to say your arguement is full of holes. And I agree with him that arguing with you guys on the internet is "gorky."[/quote] SS, I wouldn't suggest that you cannot make ANY comments about wholesalers because you haven't met "most" of them. I'd argue you cannot comment about MOST of them if you haven't met "most" of them. I have to tell you, it's not what you say that matters most, it's how you say it. Rookies should understand that in sales, words mean things. When he said "Most Amfds wholesalers, blah, blah, blah, retarded (his word, not mine - I've been trying to illustrate for you and him just how crude the use of that word is - and I'm no prude) blah, blah, blah.", he came across to me like someone who lacks confidence in his abilities. I've found people that communicate in the manner ( the narcissitic look at me, aren't I great?) this rookie does I've found to have a genuine lack of confidence. Here's why it matters Spiff - propsects sense it. Now, he may or may not be knocking the cover off the ball. If he is, God bless ya. My sense is these folks just don't last long in the industry.See I think he is self-confident, to the extreme. I believe he will be extremely successful in this career. I see him as a do-what-ever-it-takes type of guy. You are correct in that it might be that confidence that is an overcompensation for a lack of confidence. You and I will never know though.
jkl- I had to read that post about 6 times before I caught everything, but I think I know what you mean. Possibly.
JRB - I think that his prospects sense that he is working hard, self-confident, and a person who can be trusted with their savings in this difficult time. We have a couple of guys in our region that are just plain pricks. I'd name names, but then they'd probably come over and beat me up. But those guys are very successful. I don't know that he falls in that category, but something in that self-confidence seems to work. I don't think it matters if he's met one or five American Funds wholesalers. What he said was accurate. What is the criteria for eligiblity for commenting on American Funds wholesalers? Does he have to meet two and have three years of service? Or can he meet one, but have 7 years under his belt? What if, by some strange happenstance, his region has had for American Funds wholesalers in his short tenure and they all told him the same thing? I get the fact that you don't like the "r" word for some reason. I don't like to see cuss words. But I don't discount someone's comments based solely on their grammar. Unless it's spears using all those .......... when three is the appropriate number. But then I discount his comments for a lot of other reasons too. See what you guys did. Dragged me right back into this thing. How am I supposed to make any money if you guys keep dragging me back here?[quote=Morphius]
[quote=voltmoie]Seriously, you guys are pretty freaking lame having a three page debate about Windy…
JUST SAYING!
Oh, and thanks for the feedback on the seminars.
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Maybe if you whine a bit more people will be even more motivated to only talk about stuff that you are interested in.
Just saying.
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“Windy, you suck” “Windy, you rock” “Windy has something to offer” - Well, I just summed it up in one line.
People where already kind enough to share their feedback so no motivation needed - just pointing out 4 pages of windy bashing / protection is a bit lame. Unless you think that’s cool … if so, knock yourself out but the guy deserves a break and I think those that can’t let it go and allow him to be him in a ROOKIE forum are pretty much a-holes in my book. Just saying…
No Way! I looked him up on Joneslink Directory. He looks exactly how I pictured him!Most of the EDJ conspiracy theories lately have been kind of lame (Could this be the end of EDJ? EDJ in the news for a lawsuit!).
I still think the spying on brokers is a valid one, but you guys shot all kinds of holes in that one.
Here is one for you - Wind is Jim Weddle in disquise.
LMAO!!A bit off the subject…
Yesterday I let a high school student “interview” me…he told me during our conversation that his older brother just started with EDJ. He got his 7 in Feb., and is now in production (in the next town over from me).
This kid started to tell me about how his brother told him that “American Funds is like the best mutual fund company out there, and they have some funds like “Investment Company Something” and “Capital Income Something” that are the best and second best funds in history.”
Then he told me how “Edward Jones is more selective than Harvard…they even have a guy out in South Dakota that makes like $4 million a year!”
Oh my god, this conversation was the EPITOME of every EDJ stereotype on this board. It was hilarious.
I don't think anyone cares how many wholesalers he's met. They commented on the fact that he said: "Most of the American funds wholesalers want like 70% American Funds owners already and thats a bit retarded if your trying to get new business" A more accurate way of putting it would have been "Most of the American Funds wholesalers I've met blah, blah, blah". With the fund families I use, there is no reason for me to know more than 2 of them (Internal and External). Unless of course one gets fired and replaced with another, which has happened at warp speed the past year. I just see no reason why someone would need to bounce ideas off of several wholesalers of the same company. That time would be better spent talking to a wholesaler at a different firm that offers good muni bond funds or something. I'm not trying to split hairs, I'm just telling you why people are commenting on his alleged knowledge of what most wholesalers want, when its more likely he just meant the ones he's actually talked to.I don’t think it matters if he’s met one or five American Funds wholesalers. What he said was accurate. What is the criteria for eligiblity for commenting on American Funds wholesalers? Does he have to meet two and have three years of service? Or can he meet one, but have 7 years under his belt? What if, by some strange happenstance, his region has had for American Funds wholesalers in his short tenure and they all told him the same thing?
I think that people are commenting because it’s wind. Period. I think had anyone else said what he did we wouldn’t be having this three or four page discussion.
ice - What did he say that was factually inaccurate?I’ll agree that people are commenting because it’s wind. Just for the record I didn’t find much wrong with his initial statement. Like I said before he made his own bed. He’ll have to put up with this as long as he posts under Wind.
wind - just a thought. You don’t need to defend yourself, so stop. However, if you ever want to be taken even a bit seriously on this forum it would be in your best interest to start a new screen name. Again, just a thought.
Someone’s goin’ Postal.
Wind, you might just want to go join another forum. You just lost Spiff's support. At this point, you could post a comment about how cute your dog is, and you will still get bashed. Honestly, your posts show a complete lack of maturity. Everyone else is just having fun at your expense. I'm happy for you that you're doing well. But just let it go.4 months is not a long time. But when your overly successful
Now, after 4 months, he’s “overly successful!”
Overly successful!
Speaking of seminars, I hosted one recently and was struck by the level of anger and hostility toward the entire investment community, Wall Street and political structure. We had a pretty lively Q&A and even some of the sweet old ladies are suspicious, scared, confused. I mean, I knew that attitude was out there, but to see it in a group setting was startling.
I don't think anyone cares how many wholesalers he's met. They commented on the fact that he said: "Most of the American funds wholesalers want like 70% American Funds owners already and thats a bit retarded if your trying to get new business" A more accurate way of putting it would have been "Most of the American Funds wholesalers I've met blah, blah, blah". With the fund families I use, there is no reason for me to know more than 2 of them (Internal and External). Unless of course one gets fired and replaced with another, which has happened at warp speed the past year. I just see no reason why someone would need to bounce ideas off of several wholesalers of the same company. That time would be better spent talking to a wholesaler at a different firm that offers good muni bond funds or something. I'm not trying to split hairs, I'm just telling you why people are commenting on his alleged knowledge of what most wholesalers want, when its more likely he just meant the ones he's actually talked to.[/quote] You obviously do not read every post and pick and chose words and phrases that you want people to see, so that you can make yourself look smart....but let me referr you to ooooooh my 3rd or 4th post... "I'm referring to the ones I do business with " There ya go. I did the reading for you. Spiff thanks alot. I could really care less what these dudes say about me anymore. I have no reason to defend myself. I've shown you my numbers so they would shut up and they have tripled since then. I work hard and with the success I have received, have learned alot more than the average joe broker because of the amount of accounts/money/trades I have dealt with. 4 months is not a long time. But when your overly successful and have dealt with wholesalers from many different fund familes, (which by the way, American funds in my region alone has 1 major wholsaler, the internal, and 1 wholsaler for each segment, so all these dumb comments about me saying most are idiotic). I don't know EVERYTHING, but obviously i am doing something right, or I wouldnt be getting attention from Jim Weddle and the GP's at PDP which is where I am right now, considering i haven't posted. You guys honestly need to grow up. I posted a very what I thought, informative post and again got bashed. I made no grave to lay in. I said a few things, that everyone called me a liar on, I proved them and now its time to shut up about it. Find someone else to spend your days worrying about. Actually, I could use some advertising checks from RR.com for bringing the ratings up.....[/quote] OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What are you saying to people to make them move their accounts to you so quickly? What investments do you then recommend to them?[quote=3rdyrp2][quote=Spaceman Spiff] I don’t think it matters if he’s met one or five American Funds wholesalers. What he said was accurate. What is the criteria for eligiblity for commenting on American Funds wholesalers? Does he have to meet two and have three years of service? Or can he meet one, but have 7 years under his belt? What if, by some strange happenstance, his region has had for American Funds wholesalers in his short tenure and they all told him the same thing?