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May 22, 2009 12:17 pm
B- is that 4 yr old a boy or a girl?  I've got a 4 yr old girl.  And man, can she throw some fits.  I'm curious if it's a girl thing or can a boy throw them too?
 
I agree that he needs to back off on the production comments.  And, by the look of his picture on Jonesnet, he's still very young and will mature as he gets farther into the biz.  Humility comes from wisdom, which unfortunately comes with price.  He's not been kicked around by this industry yet.  It'll happen soon enough.   
 
However, this board has some copability in the way he acts.  Before I posted this last round of defenses I went back to see exactly how this all started.  What I found was that he posted how well he was doing in response to the thread where they were talking about production of new FAs at Jones.   Then Morean calls him a liar.  Now, I don't know about you folks, but if someone just flat calls me a liar, I don't like it very much.  I might get defensive.  With wind he seems to be aggressively defensive, but then he can't post anything on here without getting some negative snipe back at him.  
 
So, back to the super nanny analogy, this kid who is throwing a tantrum got pushed into his tantrum in no small part to an adult saying something mean to him.  Does the kid need to learn how to control his temper?  Yes.  Does the parent need to spank the kid everytime he opens his mouth?  Absolutely not.  One is as bad as the other.     
May 22, 2009 12:19 pm

You folks have fun with this thread.  I've hit my production bogey for the day (before noon) and I'm starting my long weekend early.  We'll hit the do over button on Tuesday.

May 22, 2009 1:15 pm
Spaceman Spiff:
B- is that 4 yr old a boy or a girl? I've got a 4 yr old girl. And man, can she throw some fits. I'm curious if it's a girl thing or can a boy throw them too?



I agree that he needs to back off on the production comments. And, by the look of his picture on Jonesnet, he's still very young and will mature as he gets farther into the biz. Humility comes from wisdom, which unfortunately comes with price. He's not been kicked around by this industry yet. It'll happen soon enough.



However, this board has some copability in the way he acts. Before I posted this last round of defenses I went back to see exactly how this all started. What I found was that he posted how well he was doing in response to the thread where they were talking about production of new FAs at Jones. Then Morean calls him a liar. Now, I don't know about you folks, but if someone just flat calls me a liar, I don't like it very much. I might get defensive. With wind he seems to be aggressively defensive, but then he can't post anything on here without getting some negative snipe back at him.



So, back to the super nanny analogy, this kid who is throwing a tantrum got pushed into his tantrum in no small part to an adult saying something mean to him. Does the kid need to learn how to control his temper? Yes. Does the parent need to spank the kid everytime he opens his mouth? Absolutely not. One is as bad as the other.      





Just so you remember - I apologized (on this forum) for calling him a liar. That doesn't give him leave to act as if he needs a five alarm beat down.

May 22, 2009 1:37 pm
Moraen:

"As the hero B24 inches ever further away from his Jones compatriots...."

 
Nah, I'm just not delusional enough to think everything anyone at Jones says is OK.  Yes, I will ocassionally defend things at Jones (especially from those people that are uninformed or MISinformed), but I will also accept the counterpoints as well.  I've got my reasons for being here, and until those reasons change....
 
Funny, the last company I worked for (totally different industry) was just like Jones in terms of culture.  Everyone I worked with thought our sh!t didn't stink, and thought anyone that went to a competitor was nuts.  BUT, it was a great company to work for (yes, on the F500 Best Companies list also), and I often miss working there for that reason alone.  Most people stayed, even though they could probably make more money elsewhere.  Turnover was among the lowest in the industry.
 
But lets not make this thread about this...
May 22, 2009 1:40 pm
Spaceman Spiff:
B- is that 4 yr old a boy or a girl?  I've got a 4 yr old girl.  And man, can she throw some fits.  I'm curious if it's a girl thing or can a boy throw them too?
  
 
I've got one of each.  And yes, they can both throw fits.  Girls can just be more whiny, annoying and pretentious.  Funny, I don't think that ever changes with age.....(all you single guys will find out some day).