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Oct 31, 2007 2:30 am

Does any firm have a managed account program or research guidance on how to trade these?

If you are not familiar with them, they have longs, shorts, and ultra long and short(double the up or down) for most major sectors. I have noticed that they are pretty accurate in their pricing. I own SRS (the reit ultra short for me and some clients). They actually pay dividends too. You buy them all long so there is not calling to borrow stock, no put or call time premiums and you can buy them in an IRA.   I think the first company that can come up with some type of a managed account program could attract a lot of assets becasue this is something that could make them different from the next guy. Believe me I am not a trader, but stocks and sectors do go up and down. Oil, REITs, EAFE are overextended. SDS (S&P ultra short can hedge an account)   Any ideas, newsletters would be appreciated. They guys that comeon CNBC at night are talking about the OIL short now.....
Nov 1, 2007 12:41 am

You are talking about DUG - THE Oil short

  SB has a managed account program, where the Advisor is the manager, and the portfolios are all ETF's. They run a model, which yo can follow, or you can run your own.
Nov 17, 2007 1:46 am

 there is a new ultra-inverse for China: FXP.  This one has really moved around the past few days.  FXP is from Pro Shares.

thanks guys for the SRS and DUG.  -ED
Nov 17, 2007 3:02 am

already own it. i bought at 83 the other day when it was down 10.i did not buy any for clients like i have with srs and sds.  two days later it traded as low as 69. this is higher risk than i normally will take but i do think china is a bubble and it will burst…???

 
Nov 17, 2007 4:38 am

Prudential/ American Skandia's variable annuities offer these, sectors as well as ultrabull and ultra bear. No 1099's!

Stok

Nov 17, 2007 7:05 am

[quote=aldo63] already own it. i bought at 83 the other day when it was down 10.i did not buy any for clients like i have with srs and sds. two days later it traded as low as 69. this is higher risk than i normally will take but i do think china is a bubble and it will burst…???

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Yeah - but you have to be careful of fees in the meantime. In addition, losses have a greater impact to your $$$ than gains in ultra-anything shares. Because of this, many of these things have a hard time sticking with their indexes.
Nov 20, 2007 2:17 am

they had a nice run today