Part of me wishes for another attack on our soil, just to shut those mother f**kers up.

It's ridiculous.   I feel sorry that all of the soldiers have to listen to this GARBAGE.

I wouldn't vote for Hillary or Obama even if Borat was running for president.

[quote=FreeLunch]

It's ridiculous.   I feel sorry that all of the soldiers have to listen to this GARBAGE.

I wouldn't vote for Hillary or Obama even if Borat was running for president.

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Obama is a muslim and Hillary is a muslim lover.

[quote=Amazon]1. That's irrelevant.
2. It's keep the soldiers there and keep political instability that harms both civilians and soldiers, or bring them back and admit it was a bad idea in the first place.
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YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLY WRONG.

If we leave now, there will be the biggest genecide you've ever seen.  You know nothing about the war - all that you've seen is the media's representation. 

Bring them Back and admit it was a bad idea in the first place?  Is that the American way you phucking idiot?

"Well, bring 'em back.  The damn Commys think its mean.."  The majority of the political instability ARISES from the public outcrys of "this just isn't right."   -   the goal should be let's show these damn terrorist idiots that the U.S. isn't to be phucked around with.

We pull out now, that sets a damn presedence that'll never be forgotten.  You ARE an IDIOT.

[quote=Bobby Hull]Part of me wishes for another attack on our soil, just to shut those mother f**kers up. [/quote]
Couldn’t resist this one.

Man Hull, now you sound like the Democrat. While your at it go vandalize some HUMMERS with your Green Peace pals. Be careful what you wish for; you might actually have to grow a pair and pick up a weapon. Don’t ask don’t tell brotha.

My Guard Unit is deploying to Iraq early next year.In between missions I’ll be sure to post…

So, you can stay there. Then you’ve got political instability because you can’t force a democracy, you’ve got the debt growing ever larger, the death count growing ever larger, and you’ve also got an increasing amount of hatred from certain factions.

Alternatively, leave and let them work it out (It might be bloody, but it isn’t exactly calm there right now, is it?). This keeps the cost down and the soldier death count down.

I don’t care what you think the “American way” is; I’m Canadian anyways. All I can do is tell you that it is within America’s best interests to leave.

[quote=Amazon]So, you can stay there. Then you’ve got political instability because you can’t force a democracy, you’ve got the debt growing ever larger, the death count growing ever larger, and you’ve also got an increasing amount of hatred from certain factions.

Alternatively, leave and let them work it out (It might be bloody, but it isn’t exactly calm there right now, is it?). This keeps the cost down and the soldier death count down.

I don’t care what you think the “American way” is; I’m Canadian anyways. All I can do is tell you that it is within America’s best interests to leave.


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yeah but pusses like Hull want another Vietnam b/c they’re not the ones that have to go fight in it. They say dumb things like “we wish there was another 9-11.” i’m sure the twin tower victim’s family are pulling for another attack too.

[quote=Amazon]So, you can stay there. Then you've got political instability because you can't force a democracy, you've got the debt growing ever larger, the death count growing ever larger, and you've also got an increasing amount of hatred from certain factions.

Alternatively, leave and let them work it out are you serious? (It might be bloody, but it isn't exactly calm there right now, is it?). This keeps the cost down and the soldier death count down.

I don't care what you think the "American way" is; I'm Canadian anyways. All I can do is tell you that it is within America's best interests to leave.
We really don't need a Canadians opinion.  Just be glad that you are harmless and we feel bad for you.
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I truly understand based on your response that you are not informed about what is going on.  You are going to have to trust me on this one.  We can't just leave.  We are on the hunt.   We are doing the entire world a favor, and making a sacrifice for all of humanity.

Ya, I’ll set this straight right now: I respect those that do go there and risk their lives, I just think they shouldn’t have to in this particular situation.

There is no one else to do it.  What you've got to understand is that most countries are walking on Pins and Needles.

Next?  IRAN.  They are dangerous as hell.  What then?  Do we "let someone work it out?"

We've got to set an example.  Sure, the cost is a problem, But the USA can tax.  I'll pay higher taxes to make sure I don't die by a terrorist bomb.

No, you aren’t. Osama and most terrorist organizations can run into a cave and wait you out.

[quote=Amazon]Ya, I’ll set this straight right now: I respect those that do go there and risk their lives, I just think they shouldn’t have to in this particular situation.
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Agreed.

i get orders, i deploy. do i agree with the war? yes. the way its handled; no. but that’s all part of duty.

anyway, i get annoyed when people like Hull assume someone’s a
democrat just because they didn’t vote for bush. trust me, a lot of
soldiers didn’t. we’re not just voting for president, we’re voting for
our chain of  command, and there was no one on that last ticket that
really displayed anything other than pseudo-balls. well, that and bush’s
deer in the headlights look that he always has.

[quote=Amazon]1. That’s irrelevant.
2. It’s keep the soldiers there
and keep political instability that harms both civilians and soldiers,
or bring them back and admit it was a bad idea in the first place.

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And then what happens?

[quote=FreeLunch]

There is no one else to do it.  What you’ve got to understand is that most countries are walking on Pins and Needles.

Next?  IRAN.  They are dangerous as hell.  What then?  Do we "let someone work it out?"

We've got to set an example.  Sure, the cost is a problem, But the USA can tax.  I'll pay higher taxes to make sure I don't die by a terrorist bomb.

[quote=Amazon]So, you can stay there. Then you've got political instability because you can't force a democracy, you've got the debt growing ever larger, the death count growing ever larger, and you've also got an increasing amount of hatred from certain factions.

Alternatively, leave and let them work it out (It might be bloody, but it isn't exactly calm there right now, is it?). This keeps the cost down and the soldier death count down.

I don't care what you think the "American way" is; I'm Canadian anyways. All I can do is tell you that it is within America's best interests to leave.

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Body count? The death toll is 1 month in Vietnam or 1 week in WWII.

The liberal media makes those #'s seem incredible but they are tiny in comparason to any other war we have fought. War sucks and death is part of it. Since when did joing the military ensure your safety? When you join you are making a great sacrifice for our country and our people and that is your choice, nobody is forcing your hand. If we were in the middle of a draft I may express a different view. They need to remove the media from Iraq and let them get the job done quickly. It is incredibly dangerous for people to undermine our power by openly protesting the war. They say they are supporting our troops but in reality they making it tougher for them to get the job done and come home.

[quote=FreeLunch]

We pull out now, that sets a damn presedence that’ll never be forgotten.

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 It is incredibly dangerous for people to undermine our power by openly protesting the war. They say they are supporting our troops but in reality they making it tougher for them to get the job done and come home.

I’m sure the families of dead soldiers take solace in knowing that the body count is relatively low…

But still, do you think any human life and the anguish the inhabitants of that area are going through is worth it?