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Jun 16, 2006 12:33 am

[quote=dude]

message boards are not formal documents......but a means for rapid and efficient exchange of information.   the abbreviations and punctuation that is common throughout computer based communications is derived from computer programming languages and etiquitte. 

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I realize that a message board is not a formal document, but capitalizing the first word of a sentence is not formal writing.

Neither is placing a period at the end of a sentence.

It is non

Jun 16, 2006 12:38 am

It is nonsense to claim that the ridiculous use of all lower case and not punctuation is an outgrowth from programming.

What it is is an example of being lazy.  It does not take any extra effort, or time, to touch the shift key at the beginning of a sentence, or to end the sentence with a form of punctuation.

As I said, in order to disagree with me you must be of the opinion that intentionally appearing lazy, or perhaps stupid, is something worthwhile.

The people who are reading this forum are seeking to become informed about an adult business.

I am choosing to tell them that there is no upside to intentionally appearing to be lazy.

If a reader disagrees, if you think there is an upside to intentionally appearing to be lazy, please express your disagreement and let's talk about it.

Jun 16, 2006 2:28 pm

[quote=Big Easy Flood]If a reader disagrees, if you think there is an upside to intentionally appearing to be lazy, please express your disagreement and let's talk about it.[/quote]

E.E. Cummings thought there was an upside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._E._Cummings

Jun 16, 2006 2:30 pm

[quote=TexasRep]you'd think an old vet like you would know when to quit digging.....[/quote]

You've assumed to much about the man.  He is no doubt old, but he is far from a vet.  He spent his years in managment. 

Jun 16, 2006 2:51 pm

[quote=lawsucks]

[quote=Big Easy Flood]If a reader disagrees, if you think there is an upside to intentionally appearing to be lazy, please express your disagreement and let's talk about it.[/quote]

E.E. Cummings thought there was an upside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._E._Cummings

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There is no indication that Cummings knew any better, and he himself did not like to see his own name in lower case letters.

The man may well have been an illiterate who became "famous" because some sponsors of the arts decided to make the inarticulate fool famous.

In any case, no rule is proven by the exception.  Once or twice every century there is rain in Timbuktu--that does not mean Timbuktu is not arid.

I ask again.  If writing in lower case makes one appear to be lazy, or stupid, what is the upside of doing it?

Jun 16, 2006 2:54 pm

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BEF make just be proving again that old saw about a broken clock being right twice a day.

 

It’s just my opinion and you can consider it worthless if you like, but I have to agree with him to the extend that writing without caps and the use common misspellings like “your” when “you’re” is correct, mark the writer in a light he probably would rather avoid. I wouldn’t turn into a grammar Nazi over it, but it doesn’t go unnoticed, either.

Jun 16, 2006 3:02 pm

[quote=mikebutler222]<O:P></O:P>

It’s just my opinion and you can consider it worthless if you like, but I have to agree with him to the extend that writing without caps and the use common misspellings like “your” when “you’re” is correct, mark the writer in a light he probably would rather avoid. I wouldn’t turn into a grammar Nazi over it, but it doesn’t go unnoticed, either.

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There are some things that I believe occur because the writer is actually thinking too deeply.  For example using an apostrophe to turn the word it into a possessive--"The team boarded it's bus and...." is wrong, but to somebody who is thinking it is second nature to insert an apostrophe into all possessive situations.

I also think the your and you're deal is often an accident--a classic typo rather than a sign of ignorance regarding the words.

But intentionally typing in lower case exhibts laziness, unless the person is prepared to admit that they didn't know better in which case it reveals world class stupidity.

It is also nonsensical to argue that one who exhibits bad habits in one situation does not exhibit bad habits in all situations.

Plus, even if they did, what's the upside of exhibiting bad habits in any situation?

Jun 16, 2006 3:21 pm

It is also nonsensical to argue that one who exhibits bad habits in one situation does not exhibit bad habits in all situations.

aw..and i secretly thought you may not be a jerk 100% of the time-

BEF-- outside of the obvious (you've gone WAY off the deep end on this one) the way i communicate in forums like this one (where there is apparently no way to keep 100% of 'em happy) is easily explainable and correctable in "real life"-

i hate to type and only do so in client communications when i absolutely have to, and thru the technology of "spell-check" all of my communications go out grammatically flawless, so you can quit worrying about how i conduct myself outside of this forum and move on to something really important---aren't your pigeons getting hungry?

 

Jun 16, 2006 3:31 pm

[quote=TexasRep]

It is also nonsensical to argue that one who exhibits bad habits in one situation does not exhibit bad habits in all situations.

aw..and i secretly thought you may not be a jerk 100% of the time-

BEF-- outside of the obvious (you've gone WAY off the deep end on this one) the way i communicate in forums like this one (where there is apparently no way to keep 100% of 'em happy) is easily explainable and correctable in "real life"-

i hate to type and only do so in client communications when i absolutely have to, and thru the technology of "spell-check" all of my communications go out grammatically flawless, so you can quit worrying about how i conduct myself outside of this forum and move on to something really important---aren't your pigeons getting hungry?

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What you're saying is you're too lazy to bother to try to do it right, so I'll ask, what is the upside of intentionally appearing lazy?

Where is the pride in doing something wrong on purpose?

Jun 16, 2006 3:41 pm

[quote=Big Easy Flood][quote=mikebutler222]<O:P></O:P>

It’s just my opinion and you can consider it worthless if you like, but I have to agree with him to the extend that writing without caps and the use common misspellings like “your” when “you’re” is correct, mark the writer in a light he probably would rather avoid. I wouldn’t turn into a grammar Nazi over it, but it doesn’t go unnoticed, either.

[/quote]

But intentionally typing in lower case exhibts laziness, unless the person is prepared to admit that they didn't know better in which case it reveals world class stupidity.

It is also nonsensical to argue that one who exhibits bad habits in one situation does not exhibit bad habits in all situations.

Plus, even if they did, what's the upside of exhibiting bad habits in any situation?

[/quote]

the last time two guys like this agreed on something it was Hitler and Japan's Hirohito in the 40's

it's friday, y'all really need to lighten-up-

Jun 16, 2006 3:43 pm

Where is the pride in intentionally doing something incorrectly?

Jun 16, 2006 3:44 pm

What you're saying is you're too lazy to bother to try to do it right, so I'll ask, what is the upside of intentionally appearing lazy?

Where is the pride in doing something wrong on purpose?

 

honestly, if i thought it really mattered to the majority to the point that it reflected badly on me, i may be more concerned-

but the fact that it really only pisses you off is motivation enough to not worry about it-

Jun 16, 2006 3:47 pm

I am not pissed off about anything, why in the world would I care?

But have you examined yourself.

You strut stupidity like a peacock, and then brag about intentionally attempting to piss somebody off.

Which of those is a sign of self respect?

Jun 16, 2006 3:55 pm

[quote=Big Easy Flood]

I am not pissed off about anything, why in the world would I care?

But have you examined yourself.

You strut stupidity like a peacock, and then brag about intentionally attempting to piss somebody off.

Which of those is a sign of self respect?

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why you would care is the continuing mystery-

but, your logic is flawed (again) - i say nothing about intentionally attempting to piss you off -- i was not capitalizing long before you commented-

as for strutting stupidly like a peacock? ok.

Jun 16, 2006 4:14 pm

[quote=TexasRep]

as for strutting stupidly like a peacock? ok.

[/quote]

Where is the self respect?  This is an industry that demands an abundance of it in order to succeed, yet you seem to take pride in having none at all.

Jun 16, 2006 4:21 pm

It’s a Texas thing, I’m guilty of it too…

Jun 16, 2006 4:27 pm

[quote=no idea]It's a Texas thing, I'm guilty of it too...[/quote]

I grew up in the DFW Metroplex, I'm a Texan too.

Being proud of being lazy is not a Texas deal.

Jun 16, 2006 4:36 pm

I was just joking. Please let this sentence serve as a blanket apology to all offended parties.

Jun 16, 2006 4:57 pm

Where is the self respect?  This is an industry that demands an abundance of it in order to succeed, yet you seem to take pride in having none at all.

the fact that you (virtually alone) seem to equate not capitalizing to strutting like a peacock, being lazy and having no self respect points to some troubling signals in your cognitive abilities (especially for a day-trader).

1. self respect is not earned or obvious by how one capitalizes or does not- nor is it displayed by kowtowing to crazy idiots (see France WWII)--

2. if not capitalizing to you is like some one strutting like a peacock- i can let you have that- it does not worry me nor effect my self respect an iota- now if you're thinking i should at least do it to earn your respect... well, i see no gain in that whatsoever--- that sort of respect (from me) must be earned (by you) and frankly your exhibition over general pettiness allows me to believe that you are no more worthy of it than any other boor i've met-

3. a Texas thing? a true texan would not be quibbling over such unimportance, nor would they need to question another true texans self-respect, knowing that that is never an issue in Texas!

 

Jun 16, 2006 5:53 pm

Whatever.

The fact is that typing in lower case is considered incorrect.  If you were doing it because you did not know it would be sad, but excusable.

But you do know.  What you're doing is akin to refusing to stand during the national anthem, or talking with your mouth full, or picking your nose at a dinner table........the list is long.

All I am doing is asking where is the well spring of self loathing that causes you to strut around saying, "I know it's incorrect, but I don't care and have no intention of bothering to do what is correct."

How could you hate yourself so much that you have absolutely zero pride in what you present for others to see?

Why would you not want to make something as perfect as possible, instead of taking pride in the sloppiness?