Do I HAVE to knock on doors?
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When I first started they said you couldn't take anyone but a spouse on the trips. Next thing you know the sausage string is allowed. What is with that ? Did EJ realize more of their FA's were gay than originally estimated ? I was open about it from the beginning !
[quote=BerkshireBull]
From an outsider's perspective it kinda sounds like Still@Jones was fed a lot of promises that didn't come to fruition. At the end of the day the recruiter who reeled him in won, the RL who hit his growth numbers because Still@Jones joined up, won and got his fat bonus, EJ got someone to work like a maniac 60hrs a week knocking on doors and getting the word out, and Still@Jones was left to whither on the vine and then thrown out as soon as it was convenient.
He was there for 4 months and Jones pays you what $2400/mo or something? So with the cost of his licenses Still@ cost EJ $10,000 and they made a couple thousand back off the accounts he opened, not to mention the advertising and goodwill he created in his town, and the pipeline and list of prospects someone else inherited who will undoubtedly go out and sell. It's pretty clear to see who won and who lost in this exchange. Still@Jones made $10 an hour at the end of the day doing a hard and stressful job, so yea he really took advantage of EJ...[/quote] Berk .. I'm not sure if you know how the recruitment process at Jones works but it's pretty transparent from my perspective. The recruiters are all in house, no fat bonuses, etc. Expectations are spelled out. Nothing said or written can prepare you for this grind but I think they do a good job. You are vastly underestimating the cost it takes to hire and train a new FA. They fly you to St. Louis twice, pay for your training and licenses, feed you, pay you a salary, and pay all those people that support you. Jones lost money on him. As for the good will - we'll have to disagree about this one. What good will do you provide when you never open up the office you promised? Never call them with an idea as you promised? No one gets the prospects ... someone will start over and have to overcome the lies and BS that Still left behind. Happened to me in my area. Also, you only need $2300 - 2700? to get back to PDP in our firm. He was not close to this number. NOT CLOSE. If he was working 60hr weeks he would have opened more than 5 accounts. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut. I'm done talking about Still and hope he's doing well in his new gig.Ron there is a clear distinction here between you and I. I'd rather have them bounce off my chin, than land in my mouth. You on the other hand.......…and in Windy’s case he finds plenty of nuts, mostly bouncing off his chin
[quote=BerkshireBull]
At the end of the day the recruiter who reeled him in won, the RL who hit his growth numbers because Still@Jones joined up, won and got his fat bonus, [/quote] You seriously don't know how recruiting works at EDJ. When an FA quits, gets fired, or retires the Region they were in and RL are stuck with a Delta for that year. If you have 3 FA's hired and you lose 4 existing FA's to retirement or whatever, your Region and RL are left with -1 hires for the year even though they were hired a year, 2 years, or 10 years ago.[quote=Ronnie Dobbs][quote=BerkshireBull]
At the end of the day the recruiter who reeled him in won, the RL who hit his growth numbers because Still@Jones joined up, won and got his fat bonus, [/quote] You seriously don't know how recruiting works at EDJ. When an FA quits, gets fired, or retires the Region they were in and RL are stuck with a Delta for that year. If you have 3 FA's hired and you lose 4 existing FA's to retirement or whatever, your Region and RL are left with -1 hires for the year even though they were hired a year, 2 years, or 10 years ago.[/quote] I don't know how recruiting works at Jones. I also don't understand all the hatred for still@jones. If he's a loser and a piker aren't you EJ guys glad to be rid of him?[quote=Ron 14]…and in Windy’s case he finds plenty of nuts, mostly bouncing off his chin
Ron there is a clear distinction here between you and I. I’d rather have them bounce off my chin, than land in my mouth. You on the other hand…[/quote]
Don’t know you Ronnie but you like balls bouncing off your chin? You Jones boys sure know how to party.
I swear, Volt and I have said it time and time again. We could care less if he is with Jones or not. What we don’t like is him constantly blaming Jones for his own failure. He failed at Jones cause he sucked, not cause Jones did anything.
[quote=WarRoom] [quote=Ronnie Dobbs] [quote=Ron 14]…and in Windy’s case he finds plenty of nuts, mostly bouncing off his chin[/quote]
Ron there is a clear distinction here between you and I. I'd rather have them bounce off my chin, than land in my mouth. You on the other hand.......[/quote]
Don't know you Ronnie but you like balls bouncing off your chin? You Jones boys sure know how to party.[/quote] That I do not WarRoom, but I'm sure if you are feeling ansy, Ron will let you use his mouth for target practice. He even puts a white chicklet on his tongue for a target!
[quote=BerkshireBull] I don’t know how recruiting works at Jones.
I also don't understand all the hatred for still@jones. If he's a loser and a piker aren't you EJ guys glad to be rid of him?[/quote] (Posted: Today at 3:39pm) Just curious ... why are you posting meaningless non sense on a over 30 VIX roller-coaster day two minutes before the imbalances are released?because he probably doesn’t give two sh*ts about the VIX and its lack of relevance to his long term investment advice
[quote=Gaddock][quote=BerkshireBull] I don’t know how recruiting works at Jones.
I also don't understand all the hatred for still@jones. If he's a loser and a piker aren't you EJ guys glad to be rid of him?[/quote] (Posted: Today at 3:39pm) Just curious ... why are you posting meaningless non sense on a over 30 VIX roller-coaster day two minutes before the imbalances are released? [/quote] just curious... why are you naive enough to believe you can do a good job of both trading on data such as this and prospecting?"naive" LOL, ever hear of getting referrals for doing a great job? The job I do is now how I prospect.
Now go ponder that a bit sport. Let me know if a little light goes off. PS I can walk and chew gum at the same time. The time you spend here, during market hours, waisting your time is while I'm doing both.Who do you work for ? Wells Fargo/Wachovia/AG Edwards ? I believe that makes you a bank broker too. Nice one.
How in the world a financial planner can plan peoples retirement without watching the VIX is beyond my comprehension. I must be doing something wrong for my clients.Rony rony ron ron,
PCG dude ... night and day. "beyond my comprehension!!!!!!!!!!!!" Imagine my surprise. Way to change your post meat-head. The fact that you feel knowing what the current market conditions are to be irrelevant shows just how detached from your customers (notice the lack of the word client) portfolios you are. OH WAIT you've not sold one stock, you claim you don't have the time or expertise to be able to find one LOL. You go on schlepping that same old schtick.Gladly.
Continue to be a skirt wearing prick who won't trade his own money for "fear" he won't make the right decisions. The opportunity is just running out your door and you are too arrogant to see.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HHAAHAAHAHAHAAAAHA!! Ronnie LOLOLOLOLOL I put a useful thread for those that are trying to improve themselves in the General BBS. IF just IF you want to pull yourself out of pain-full mediocrity you can educate yourself for free. Maybe then you wont have to tell people you pay others to do what you are incapable of doing yourself. I have to hand it to you for being honest on that one. Just think Rony boy, what do you think a HNW lead would think when you gave him that schpeal? A broker who can't broker so the only thing he can offer me is a mutual fund? What do you think he would think of your "professionalism"???? EXACTLY!!! Thanks for the laughs, I needed that.What schpeal? That I don’t day trade options for my clients accounts ? I have never had a prospect even mention the word options and I run into HNW leads everyday, because I AM AT A BANK AND CAN SEE THEIR MONEY. You think you are a big time trader, we all know it. PM me your fax number and I will fax you my K1 in which I traded MY OWN MONEY ON AN ACTUAL EXCHANGE. You think I am missing something from you that may be useful ? Hmmm. I think you could benefit from the only guy on this site who has actually traded and been a market maker in the exact products you brag about.
[quote=WarRoom] [quote=Ronnie Dobbs] [quote=Ron 14]…and in Windy’s case he finds plenty of nuts, mostly bouncing off his chin[/quote]
Ron there is a clear distinction here between you and I. I'd rather have them bounce off my chin, than land in my mouth. You on the other hand.......[/quote]
Don't know you Ronnie but you like balls bouncing off your chin? You Jones boys sure know how to party.[/quote] Hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa there. Let's not lump all Jones guys into Windy and Ron's "sausage fest", and lets not lump Windy in with the rest of the Jones guys. There are only a select few taking advantage of the new "domestic partners" benefits around here.