Best regional ever!
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Why am I doing this especially when I like iceco1d?
So are you saying all of these firms will front the money for an office build out? They will hire and pay for an office staff? They will sign an office lease (not you)? They will offer ownership (with a cost) to you? They will pay for all the costs of your licensing? This is not a "subjective" question of the value of these things. It is a question about the facts only. you said "Nothing. Zero, nadda, zilch, zippo." I don't think t is possible for any firms to be so identical that the above could be an accurate statement. Not that this will matter to anyone but I have been doing this a long, long time and I have lost exactly no sleep because I could not: Charge an hourly fee to take descretion to do a private equity deal in a non-publicly traded REIT off the coast of Venezuela while I was leveraging a hedge fund. With all due respect ice are you telling me that this is part of your every day business? If you controlled our "laughably flexible" fee based platform clients would be spiritually fullfilled? When you took 1 benign sentence and turned it into a couple of paragraphs you know it was meant as a bash. We are all in the same boat and rowing the same direction. God Bless those of you who do these esoteric investments as part of your everyday business. The direction of the stock market and interest rate fluctuations make my job hard enough as it is. To quote Rodney King "Can't we all just get along'?Ice … I think people care very much about the label when you are brand new. It adds to your credibility early on.
No offense taken. I’ve not sold under another brand so I can’t comment on what people’s reactions would be. However I have met more than a few people that have done some research into EDJ and told me they did so. What that means, I have no idea.
Not sure what I would be doing wrong. I mention my firm once, at the door, and then it’s the Voltmoie show. EDJ is just a company I use to offer them products - it’s my strategy.
ice,
Reread Winds 1 sentence quote (in your own post). It had nothing to do with product. I asked you questions. You turned them in to accusations. Read my post slowly. If you don't give a rats ass then don't make hateful comments. Again. Product was not mentioned. Product availabiltiy? Why do you bring up all of us "kool aid" wirehouse people. Indys' are Gods chosen people? I did not bash. You seem p!ssed off. Why call me a "Jonesie"? My post did not extoll the virtues of Jones. As usual, words twisted and posts misread. Please read exactly what I commented on....nothing more.You did get product specific dumbass. First you said you said "I’ve seen alot of the crap that goes on at Jones…“Not being able to
sell certain investments that might be good for a client, Regional Pats
on the back” and i still think Jones is a great company."
Then you said "I’m sure even you Independents have things you can’t do, wish you could
do, or wish you had, that Jones as a big company can do. It’s all
relevant to your company."
You went product focused so don’t bitch about ICE for correcting you. You want to talk about EDJ marketing capability, back office support, etc. , say it, but no chance you inferred it based on your initial product based knock on Jones.
BTW Windy: What does “relevant” to a company mean? Do you mean relative?
Wind, what do you mean by that comment?Actually…Gross means everything…
This thread is great, now if Ron14 shows up to start smack-talking this thread will be perfect
Wind, what do you mean by that comment?[/quote] I think he's trying to say that take-home pay (net) is less important than the stats that show up on the Jones scoreboard (gross).[quote=wind3574]Actually…Gross means everything…
That's what it sounded like to me, too. I just don't want to assume that is the case.
Until banks are going to let us cash our gross, it seems like a pretty meaningless number. Do you think that I can use my gross to pay tuition for my kids?Wind,
I'm not going to bash on you but when you tell Volt, "Your a moron" or "Your and idiot", it's "You're a moron" and "You're an idiot". You've used your since the beginning of your postings and it doesn't add to your intelligence in your debates.Defensive yet again! You really are a tool! IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE AN UNEDUCATED HILLBILLY! You may not care but people will question your intelligence. If they weren't already by your belligerent responses.
Awesome thread.
We are finally starting to come alive again on this board.
Personally I think there are some at Jones who are Kool-aid drinkers and some who simply see Jones as a platform that they use to grow a business. I believe (maybe wrongly) that qwerty falls into the latter category.
I do think this statement “'I’m sure even you Independents have things you can’t do, wish you could
do, or wish you had, that Jones as a big company can do” means that we as independents wish we had the product depth, the back office support (insert cough or laugh here), regional meetings (insert joke about waste of time - see BEST REGIONAL EVER!), the brand name (50/50 here - a lot of people are in love with the Edward Jones name, others stay away from it like the plague).
My point is, you PAY for all of that! And if you think that independents don’t get together and talk about best practices, you are wrong. I know guys that get together to write their business plans, who share office space, who plan “independent div trips”. It’s a lot cheaper, and it’s not taxable to them, it’s a tax write-off.
Btw - I like wind, but I think you’re just trying to cover on this one.
Cover your a$$ about how you really were talking about product offerings but then backed off it once Ice called you out on it.
Maybe you should go back and delete this post. [quote=wind3574]Very humble response. You are learning young Skywalker.
Your taking sentences out of context and rationalizing them as individual statements. Your a moron. Thats like saying, "Volt wishes he had nuts" which would imply that you blow steam in the rectal area, but i "intentionally" forgot to include the important part of the sentence which was "Volt wishes he had nuts from Walmart. The blue ones in a can"....
[/quote] Window- you gotta admit this one had to be called out