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Jun 15, 2009 6:02 pm

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Jun 15, 2009 7:22 pm

Erroneous!  Erroneous on both accounts!!!!!!

Jun 15, 2009 8:21 pm

Window- Your signature states "Let No Man belong to another, that can belong to himself" - Paracelsus

Maybe you should choose a different signature. It may be giving the wrong impression.
Jun 15, 2009 11:47 pm

This is Windy’s first real career at his first real company.  Why should he even consider switching right now?  It’s been good to him, he is doing well.  Why would have even think about going somewhere different at 26?  Of course he might be able to do so, make more money, but he is 26 and has the brand behind him - which quite frankly he needs right now. People are not going to move assets over to a 26 year old with a track record or the brand behind him.  His skills coupled with the brand allows him to do well.  Windy Investments is not going to bring in assets. End of story.

As he matures his perspective will probably change - let the guy live.

BTW Windy, no one here gives two shyts what you are making or what % of goal you are. You win no internet prizes. Brag to your wife not to strangers.

Jun 15, 2009 11:51 pm

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Jun 15, 2009 11:58 pm

I have a PhD in dealing with azzholes.  I’m qualified to give advice here.

Jun 16, 2009 12:02 am
wind3574:

[quote=3rdyrp2]
Loyalty??  You’ve been there since Christmas!  You don’t even have your own office yet.  How would going somewhere else be detrimental to the client?  American funds can pretty much be ACAT’d anywhere.  [/quote]

I think its pretty safe to say i’d have to have clients…and usually your loyal to them…or supposed to be

#1. I’m in a legacy, with my own office…So technically to my clients, I do have an office. and really does having an office matter? I mean, 23k this month? Obviously i’m doing enough business to anger, upset, or even hurt a few clients by moving…I dunno, maybe i’m one of the few who cares about my clients and what they think?..maybe?..


There’s alot of negatives from jumping firm to firm or whatever. Transfer fees, losing cost basis, and building the reputation of not being stable. Most of my clients have come from advisors who jump ship for bonuses, or a bigger pay-out and believe me, it puts a MAJOR bad taste in their mouths…

When i’m 50 id much rather be the guy who says, “I’ve worked for the firm for 30 years”, rather than they guy who starts all over ever 5 and is 50 saying, " I’ve worked for 5 different firms"…If that doesnt sound like a car salesmen i dunno what does…

  I hear ya dude, count your blessings Hari Krishna didn't get to you first. That's enough Koolaid to make me puke, and you can't even catch a buzz of it.   I have nothing against Jones at all. BUT there are products you cant use like options that tie your hands. If you're happy and your clients are happy the world is your oyster real or imagined what's the diff. 
Jun 16, 2009 12:02 am

That’s what I’m talkin about, volt. I can accept a grown ass man saying he’s got A LOT more to learn about the biz before considering a move. The guy probably can’t pronounce “in-service distribution” yet. Just don’t tell me its because you’re too loyal to a firm you’ve been with for six months and don’t want to bother your clients with those pesky account closing fees.

Jun 16, 2009 12:24 am

Volt if he has all of the answers which he does. If he is killing it and is “good at what he does”, which he claims, then he should absolutely leave Jones. He is lighting it up, not EJ.  At any point Jones could chop every FA under 5 years and there is nothing either of you could do. They could also cut the payout to 25% and there is nothing either of you could do. Its like the 24 yr old in my old region, straight from college who had a CPA dad and Surgeon Mom. She made Seg 4 in 1 year, just killing it. (Also spoke at every region meeting about what was working for her) Why the hell would she stay at EJ ? I have no clue but she does. With those connections she was going to be successful no matter what. I don’t think Wind is well connected which makes his numbers even more impressive. He should leave immediately.

Jun 16, 2009 12:44 am

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Jun 16, 2009 1:45 am

You do have reasons to leave. More money, bigger product line, more freedom, better managed products, better research.

Jun 16, 2009 2:05 am

Here is a list of Ron14’s list of accomplishments and why his advice should be taken seriously:











End of list.

Jun 16, 2009 2:09 am

That is the third or fourth time you have come to the defense of Windy. That says it all. Well done, Cheesehead. STFU and go back to banging your Brett Favre blow up doll.

Jun 16, 2009 2:12 am

[quote=Ron 14]

That is the third or fourth time you have come to the defense of Windy. That says it all. Well done, Cheesehead. STFU and go back to banging your Brett Favre blow up doll.

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Ron, I know we have a lot of fun joshing each other, but don’t talk about Brett.  Seriously…
Jun 16, 2009 3:05 am

Oh did that hurt your feelings ? You are an idiot if you think Favre, at this stage, is better than Aaron Rodgers. Typical cheesehead.

Jun 16, 2009 3:34 am

[quote=Ron 14]Oh did that hurt your feelings ? You are an idiot if you think Favre, at this stage, is better than Aaron Rodgers. Typical cheesehead. [/quote]

Erin Rodgers is a joke.  He took a 14-4 team in 2007 and made them a 6-10 team in 2008.  He was also 0-7 in fourth quarter comeback opportunities.

'Nuff Said.

Jun 16, 2009 3:35 am

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Jun 16, 2009 3:44 am

Rodgers is a better choice at this point in Brett’s career - homeboy has a year left at best? 

I’d hate to have Brett as a client as much as I like his money, he’d never make a decision and when he did he’d choose some other door knocker on a whim!

Jun 16, 2009 12:56 pm

[quote=BerkshireBull] [quote=Ron 14]

That is the third or fourth time you have come to the defense of Windy. That says it all. Well done, Cheesehead. STFU and go back to banging your Brett Favre blow up doll.

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Ron, I know we have a lot of fun joshing each other, but don't talk about Brett.  Seriously....
[/quote]   SERIOUSLY THE BEST POST I'VE EVER READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 16, 2009 1:01 pm
Ron 14:

Volt if he has all of the answers which he does. If he is killing it and is “good at what he does”, which he claims, then he should absolutely leave Jones. He is lighting it up, not EJ.  At any point Jones could chop every FA under 5 years and there is nothing either of you could do. They could also cut the payout to 25% and there is nothing either of you could do. Its like the 24 yr old in my old region, straight from college who had a CPA dad and Surgeon Mom. She made Seg 4 in 1 year, just killing it. (Also spoke at every region meeting about what was working for her) Why the hell would she stay at EJ ? I have no clue but she does. With those connections she was going to be successful no matter what. I don’t think Wind is well connected which makes his numbers even more impressive. He should leave immediately.

  Ron, I certainly understand your point, if you can make a SUBSTANTIALLY higher payout at another firm, and your a good producer why not switch?  But the problem is, by this theory, every Seg 4 and Seg 5 at Jones should switch firms for the bigger payout.  We all know that I'm the furthest thing from a Kool-Aid drinker (OOOOHYEEAAHH) but I think that Seg 4&5 guys have some connection, other than payout, with Jones.  They like where they are, they like their region, they like their offices, biz plan, boa...whatever.  I understand all of the complaints about Jones, really, I do.  I just think that once some people hit Seg 5 they're happy to be where they are.