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Jan 6, 2010 3:48 pm
Slate Magazine – 30 Dec 09 Why do so many terrorists have engineering degrees?

Engineering is not a profession most people associate with religion. The concrete trade of buildings and bridges seems grounded in the secular...

Jan 6, 2010 4:23 pm

[quote=Moraen]http://www.slate.com/id/2240157/ [/quote] “Gambetta and Hertog propose that a lack of appropriate jobs in their home countries may have radicalized some engineers in Arab countries”.

  SometimesNowhere proposes that the overwhelming majority of a$$holes in their home countries have radicalized some engineers.   If you are an engineer you are probably smart enough to figure out that you can live somewhere else and get a job.
Jan 7, 2010 1:30 pm

It’s interesting.  If your read the papers and the linked articles, it talks about how Saudi Arabia has tons of engineering jobs, but doesn’t have significantly less representation among terrorists.

Jan 7, 2010 1:56 pm

From all of this are we to understand that being a terrorist is somehow a well-paid - or even paid at all - occupation?

  To sum up the article, engineers are disproportionately represented in terrorism, they are disproportionately represented among the un or under-employed, and therefore engineers become terrorists because they are under-employed.   It would seem the would-be engineers are motivated by financial rewards. How does being a terrorist achieve that goal? Help me out here, am I missing something? (Other than, hey, you'd have to be idiot to blow yourself up so logic doesn't apply.)
Jan 7, 2010 2:28 pm

The premise is that engineers have well-ordered, all or nothing minds.  This is perfect for fundamentalist religion.

U.S. Engineering professors are seven times more likely to be both right-wing and fundamentally religious than any other discipline.

Jan 7, 2010 3:11 pm
Moraen:

The premise is that engineers have well-ordered, all or nothing minds.  This is perfect for fundamentalist religion.

U.S. Engineering professors are seven times more likely to be both right-wing and fundamentally religious than any other discipline.

  "Gambetta and Hertog propose that a lack of appropriate jobs in their home countries may have radicalized some engineers in Arab countries ...."   Clearly the authors do ascribe the proclivity to terrorism to economic causes, at least to some degree.   "What else might account for the radical, violent politics of so many former engineering students? ...To answer this question, Gambetta and Hertog updated a study that was first published in 1972... According to the original paper, engineers described themselves as "strongly conservative" and "deeply religious" more ...found similar results, with 46 percent of the (male American) engineers describing themselves as both conservative and religious, compared with 22 percent of scientists."   Wondering exactly where you got the seven times number. I tracked down some of the  links and didn't find it. It would appear that they are twice as likely as scientists, as an example. No?   Not disagreeing with your premise, which seems correct.
Jan 7, 2010 4:01 pm

Last paragraph on this link:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227127.200-can-university-subjects-reveal-terrorists-in-the-making.html?full=true

The are so many links I understand where you are coming from.