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Nov 20, 2007 2:13 pm

Nov 20, 2007 2:34 pm

I’m hoping his little bible poem was sarcasm. 

  Also, Joe, not only the American Indians, but what about all the people killed in the name of God in the last 1000+ years in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America?  Between the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition to the Conquistadors there's been a lot of blood shed.    There's also been a lot of what I consider "shakedowns".  I was listening to a story on NPR the other day about Midieval Europe.  The pope at that time decided that people could buy absolution, and sent a priest or friar (whatever they're called) to various villages across Europe to tell people how they could be free of their mortal sins for a price.  Folks lined up around the block and the Vatican's coffers got all the fatter.    To me it's not about arguing whether or not the bible is a good ethics text, but the problem is how it's interpreted, and how people get wrapped up in the dogma.
Nov 20, 2007 2:42 pm

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  Nothing more.. Nothing less.. I found the site helpful and I think others might as well.   Miss J
Nov 20, 2007 3:30 pm
Big Taco:

I was listening to a story on NPR the other day …

  Well, there's your first problem.    I was listening to an NPR story the other day that detailed how only the right side of the blogosphere spreads vile rumors and calls people names. They couldn't find a single example of the left doing anything of the sort. The "reporter" was a part-timer for NPR, the rest of the time he "reported" for "The Nation".  But I digress.....  

I assumed the post you're referring to was sarcasm, and as a committed agnostic, I have no dog in this fight. However, when I hear people trot out the line about how many people have been killed in the name of religion, I’m reminded how many more have been killed in the name of political ideology (fascism, communism) and how some of mankind’s greatest acts of selflessness and charity have been done in the name of one religion or another….<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Nov 20, 2007 3:36 pm

[quote=MISS JONES]Hey Hey… Now don’t ruin my post… This is a great website WWW.GLASSBOOTH.ORG  Please visit the site if you have questions about selecting a presidential candidate.

  Nothing more.. Nothing less.. I found the site helpful and I think others might as well.   Miss J[/quote]   Sorry, I think I started this.  Telling a group of brokers that you are voting for a democrat is like throwing a bloody carcass into a shark tank.  You know it's going to get very ugly very quickly.
Nov 20, 2007 5:10 pm
mikebutler222:

[quote=Big Taco] I was listening to a story on NPR the other day …

  Well, there's your first problem.    I was listening to an NPR story the other day that detailed how only the right side of the blogosphere spreads vile rumors and calls people names. They couldn't find a single example of the left doing anything of the sort. The "reporter" was a part-timer for NPR, the rest of the time he "reported" for "The Nation".  But I digress.....   I agree that NPR is left leaning.  But sometimes they have some good stuff.  I was laughing out loud in my car the other day when someone was interviewing Stephen Colbert.  In Stephen's book he made a pie chart comparison of NPR radio programming to commercial radio.  A large piece of the NPR pie was "Word Jazz".     

I assumed the post you're referring to was sarcasm, and as a committed agnostic, I have no dog in this fight. However, when I hear people trot out the line about how many people have been killed in the name of religion, I’m reminded how many more have been killed in the name of political ideology (fascism, communism) and how some of mankind’s greatest acts of selflessness and charity have been done in the name of one religion or another….<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

  I'm not agnostic.  I have spiritual beliefs.  But I'm not at all religious.  I do think that churches are good for a community as it brings people together, and they help with community projects, and give a lot of people hope.  I agree that political ideology has racked up its fair share of murders, too.  [/quote]
Nov 20, 2007 6:11 pm

I too thought the post might be sarcasm. However, in the past some have espoused some strong religious beliefs on this site.

  Regardless, white man didn't kill the Indians because of religion.  White man used religion to justify what they were doing to the Indians. Right down to Manifest Destiny. God intended the land to be ours, so we're taking it. And so we did.   The biggest mistake the Nez Perces ever made was nursing Lewis and Clark back to good health. If they could have seen 50 years into the future they would have realized that the best outcome for them would have been to kill Lewis and Clark, or to at least let them die. Actually, even if these Indians could have seen what white man would do to them, they most likely wouldn't have done anything differently. It's the kind of people they were.      
Nov 20, 2007 8:58 pm

Very interesting on the Lewis and Clark, Bond Guy.

Nov 21, 2007 1:23 am

Just read the book “Mayflower”. Seems the Pilgrims/Puritans decided it was The Divine that wanted them to literally burn to death Indian women and children. Nice–even brought home a Native scalp in a bloody white linen that was raised up as a flag over Plymouth!!

  As a believer, it always scares me when people think it is God talking to them. And the Bible as modern law is laughable!!! Just read Leviticus!!   I am sure the guy was joking (please).
Dec 6, 2007 7:49 pm

This was such a good website… Thought I would bring it back up…