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May 11, 2007 11:02 pm

Regarding KISS… What do you get when you take away the make up, fake blood and pyrotechnics?  A sub par rock band.

May 11, 2007 11:49 pm

[quote=Mike Damone]Regarding KISS... What do you get when you take away the make up, fake blood and pyrotechnics?  A sub par rock band.[/quote]

A bunch of ugly Jewish guys.

May 12, 2007 12:50 am

[quote=Mike Damone]Regarding KISS… What do you get when you take away the make up, fake blood and pyrotechnics?  A sub par rock band.[/quote]

You get a self made marketing machine.  For Gene it’s all about the money.

May 21, 2007 7:41 pm

Kiss sux.  Tom Morello?

May 21, 2007 8:19 pm

[quote=drewski803]Kiss sux.  Tom Morello?[/quote]

There is nothing cool about making your guitar sound like a casio keyboard.

May 22, 2007 4:09 am

Why collect guitars if you don't play?

Are they collector items?

May 22, 2007 3:38 pm

Yes, guitars can be collectors items, but I doubt if anyone posting here about their guitar(s) purchased them as an investment.  I once played enough to have a nice set of callouses, but alas...my guitar sits in a case in the closet gathering dust, but perhaps appreciating...

May 22, 2007 3:59 pm

…and I liked KISS (where’s the lightning bolt font on here?!!)…still do…they were kings of the nighttime world…and they understood marketing very, very well…

May 27, 2007 5:51 pm

[quote=Bobby Hull]

[quote=Mike Damone]Regarding KISS... What do you get when you take away the make up, fake blood and pyrotechnics?  A sub par rock band.[/quote]

A bunch of ugly Jewish guys.

[/quote]

An anti-jewish statement, pratoman, if I've ever seen one! 

Shalom

Jun 11, 2007 9:29 pm

So this weekend I'm listening to the MP3 player (which has stuff on it I don't even know about!) and it's on "Random" and up comes this guitar noise which sounds like somebody using a chainsaw to cut a f 14 Tomcat fighter in half.

I'm saying to myself... I remember this! What the hell is it! Pibroch (Hat in hand) from Songs From The Wood by Jethro Tull! All I can tell you is that the player came off random and I've been playing the bejesus out of that song ever since!

Songs From the Wood was IIRC a pretty roundly despised album and it did seem more than a little tame in the face of Stadium Rock that was all the roll in 1977 when SFTW was released. But I can still semi-remember the long haired version of me cruising around with the power chord opening of the song blaring at full distortion!(I got the ringing in the ears to prove it too!)

Recently I've found a whole lotta new Stevie Ray (well, new to me).

A nephew told me also about www.archive.org which has a huge collection of free music and more. If you've never seen it it's worth the long strangetrip especially if you are a Grateful Dead fan!

Jun 12, 2007 5:48 pm

I guess I have to say that, pretty much, yes. I've been aware of SRV and had bits and pieces of his work (I wll also say that the video for Little Wing is just about the finest in my mind) I aways kind of thought of him as George Throughgood type of good (GT is another guy that I'm peripherially familiar with, I will say though that his One Bourbon, One Scotch One Beer is the foundation of probably 25% of all male to male conversation among whites of a certain age "I don belee you lookin for no job! I saw you las friday you was leanin up against a post!" "But I'ws TIred!") But that don b'front me!

SRV speaks to what I was saying about Robin Trower. He's good, he sounds like Hendrix (Trower) but there is sumpthin missin'. SRV managed to replace LSD with Blues in Jimi music, so you (as in "me, the non guitar playing listener") don't even get into the "technical" aspect of "who's better and what's impossible for anyone but Jimi to play" and so on.

I won't say that SRV is showing me anything new about him that I didn't know, I'm really enjoying the long jams tho'.

RRB,

Let me ask you these two questions..

1. What guitar player (living) would you most want to play guitar with?

2. If it were simply a matter of money (and assuming you ahd lots of extra of it) would you pay for the experience, and how much?

Same question to other serious players reading.

Jun 12, 2007 9:37 pm

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

I guess I have to say that, pretty much, yes. I've been aware of SRV and had bits and pieces of his work (I wll also say that the video for Little Wing is just about the finest in my mind) I aways kind of thought of him as George Throughgood type of good (GT is another guy that I'm peripherially familiar with, I will say though that his One Bourbon, One Scotch One Beer is the foundation of probably 25% of all male to male conversation among whites of a certain age "I don belee you lookin for no job! I saw you las friday you was leanin up against a post!" "But I'ws TIred!") But that don b'front me!

SRV speaks to what I was saying about Robin Trower. He's good, he sounds like Hendrix (Trower) but there is sumpthin missin'. SRV managed to replace LSD with Blues in Jimi music, so you (as in "me, the non guitar playing listener") don't even get into the "technical" aspect of "who's better and what's impossible for anyone but Jimi to play" and so on.

I won't say that SRV is showing me anything new about him that I didn't know, I'm really enjoying the long jams tho'.

RRB,

Let me ask you these two questions..

1. What guitar player (living) would you most want to play guitar with?

2. If it were simply a matter of money (and assuming you ahd lots of extra of it) would you pay for the experience, and how much?

Same question to other serious players reading.

[/quote]

Whomit...seriously.....SRV is GT type of good? GT can't even play guitar without an open E tuning and a finger slide.

Jun 12, 2007 9:52 pm

Bobby,

I have no idea what either of those means. Actually I guess I know what a finger slide is.

What I meant was that my impression (before) was that SRV... I didn't realize he was as good as he was.

Too bad Eric Clapton had him killed!

Jun 12, 2007 9:53 pm

Anyone familiar with Jonny Lang?

Jun 13, 2007 4:31 pm

Assuming that I could play guitar (which I can not).

I too would go with the heroes. But I'd choose from  Townshend,  Anastasio and Beck.

Townshend is my childhood hero, even though he has grown to be a major dork. Playing with townshend would be the fulfillment of a childhood dream.

Anastasio would be a marathon man to play with. I find him to be innovative and deferential to the guitar players of every sort and so he seems like he'd be fun to jump from genre to genre and back again.

Jeff Beck is my favorite though and I would love to have it "on my resume'" that I played with Jeff Beck. What's more, jeff seems to be the down to earthiest of guitar players. He seems like the kind of guy that would respect the man who can do it himself, whatever that "it" is (an example being the way Jeff's passion is working on cars, not working on guitars.

How much I would pay would depend on the venue. Let me put it this way, If I were paying for my brother to play with one of these guys On Line (so say I were giving it as a birthday present) I'd think that $500 would be the top end I'd pay for say a three song set. Or say a 1 hour set if there were say 4 other good players playing at the same time.

If it were just a studio type setting where they cut a song face to face, that might be a $2,000 hour. (although i can't imagine that JB would do the gig so so little money)

In a club setting between 10,000 -15,000 (again, assuming I had boodles of money to spend for a 15 minute gig, plus a grand finale with say ten guitarists. (now, this would be a juried event, so that only people that pass a quality test before they can approach Jeffery with a guitar!) The question being, how much would one have to pay Jeff Beck to do a small show? How many guitarists could you divide that cost by. If you could get him for $150,000 could you find 10 guys willing to pay $15,000 (plus their own costs)?

Stadium setting (more than one thousand people). That I would not want to do, it takes away the intimacy of the experience.

Jun 13, 2007 4:45 pm

I’d give anything to play with my grammar school buddy, Derek Frigo. He played in a band called Enuff Z’nuff. He died a couple of years ago, but he was in a league of his own with a guitar.

Jun 13, 2007 5:34 pm

Ok, yeah, that's why I said "living" because you'd have to know that there are loads of people who would give anything to play with, say, Jimi, or John.

But what big time guitar player would yu pay money, assuming the money weren't the issue (we have a point where we'll say, "I know I could pay it, but I won't.") to play with, and how much would you pay?

Jun 13, 2007 5:58 pm

Alvin Lee or Gary Morris.  I'd pay money just to sit in the same room and listen to either of them.

By the way: my early guitar teachers back in the early 1960's in the Bay Area were Rolf Cahn and Jorma Kaukonen.  Once with Eric Von Schmidt not as a teacher but who sat in on lessons with Rolf occasionally.  Those were some interesting days, to say the least.  They got even more interesting in the late 60's and early 70's. 

Jorma taught in a guitar store where I bought my Martin after my Gibson was stolen. (Actually my parents bought for me )   He was a sweet guy, older than me and of course I had a crush on him.  Never even suspected where he would go to and how he would affect the music scene. We went to Berkeley to take folk, blues and classic guitar from Rolf and used to go to the Jabberwock to just soak up the music.

Memory lane.

Jun 13, 2007 6:52 pm

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Ok, yeah, that's why I said "living" because you'd have to know that there are loads of people who would give anything to play with, say, Jimi, or John.

But what big time guitar player would yu pay money, assuming the money weren't the issue (we have a point where we'll say, "I know I could pay it, but I won't.") to play with, and how much would you pay?

[/quote]

I'd pay a king's ransom to play with Dust Bunny. We could play with each other's Martins and make beautiful music together.

Jun 13, 2007 11:19 pm

Hmmm. I don't know if I should be flattered or afraid. 

If I didn't think it would cause internet stalking I would post links to some ancient photos of my with my Gibson and then the Martin, just so you know I'm not making it up.