B24- I also have a Dodge Ram pickup, a 97 i bought as a used truck in 2001 when i renovating my house. It’s given me 7 years of trouble free driving. And I mean no problems at all. Additionally, 250k plus on Grand Cherokees, with only a couple age related glitches. Salt air related.B24, it would be high mileage for a Japanese car as well. Where did you get that a Japaneses car with 85,000 miles on it is just getting broken in? I've owned six Accords, and three Civics. Mostly, I only keep the cars about three years, but still three of those cars crossed 100,000 miles. If 85k is just getting broken in, i've got some bad news for you, 100k is well worn. Keep in mind my cars were young in age as they crossed the lifetime use mark of 100k. Still, they were loose, had body creaks and groans, and the drive trains made noises they didn't make when younger. One had a thump we thought was a tire or brakes, until we had both replaced. Still, all those cars were still servicable and for a meiser type or college kid they would make an OK used car. Even with maintaining those cars per the factory and at the dealer, i wouldn't buy one with 100k plus on it. Then again, I wouldn't buy most american cars with those miles either. Maybe a diesel 5 series BMW. So, that your cars are just getting broken in, not even by a stretch. Your cars are high mileage peroiod! But nice spin!!! Currently we have two civics in the fleet, an 03 with about 70k, and an 07 with just under 38k. Just over the past two weeks the 03 is having an electrical problem. The brake lights/directional work signals intermittently. Age related as the car is five years old and probably a corroded relay or something. The 07 is another story. it's developed a serious valve knock. Of course the car is 1800 miles out of warranty. So we'll see if Honda steps to the plate. Be generally, it's a good car. Still, 85k is a lot of miles for any car. As for conventional wisdom that foreign cars are of higher quality I don't buy that. Where do you get that? The ratings companies? You are aware that those high ratings are bought and paid for by the car companies? I think the conventional wisdom really at work here was layed out by PT Barnum "Their's a sucker born every minute." And you really don't want my opinion of the Highlander. But since you brought it up here it is- Not a serious SUV. A grocery getter that can't tow anything, has little usable interior space, and is not allowed on the beach in my state. And it's not flat towable without modification. That it is built on a Camry platform begs the question, why not just get a Camry? Anyway, I don't hold a high opinion of any of the faux suv's built by the Japanese. Get a real SUV, or a 4X4, or just drive a car.
"And you really don’t want my opinion of the Highlander. But since you brought it up here it is- Not a serious SUV. A grocery getter that can’t tow anything, has little usable interior space, and is not allowed on the beach in my state. And it’s not flat towable without modification. That it is built on a Camry platform begs the question, why not just get a Camry? Anyway, I don’t hold a high opinion of any of the faux suv’s built by the Japanese. Get a real SUV, or a 4X4, or just drive a car."
And where did I give the impression that I thought my Highlander was some sort of off-road ‘yute? My wife drives the kids and groceries around in it. But it’s a hell of a lot better than a wagon or mini-van (actually, minivans are more functional, but I just can’t get myself to buy one). I’m fully aware that they are basically a big ole’ Camry. That’s why they’re so GOOOOOD.
Anyway, we’re not getting anywhere. We just have to agree to disagree. When I see how many 15 year-old Accords, Civics, and Camrys are driving around compared to how many 15 year old, oh, I don’t know, Escorts are driving around, it tells you something.