This whole story frustrates me - the 2 "black leaders" are such hypocrites it's sickening.  Hymie Town and and made up rape allegations, shakedowns etc., and they are never held accountable.  This is such crap with other garbage unfolding in front of us, we get this 24/7.  Could've done w/o the "Husain" line though.  They aren't exactly pushing Obama all that much, he isn't black enough for them.

I disagree.  Just because others are doing it does not make it right.

His comments were horrible.  He should lose his job.  There are very few good role models out there, and he makes a nasty comment about these women.

Just think, is there any situation where this would have come out of your mouth?  It is wrong.

And Sharpton should go down too.

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I disagree.  Just because others are doing it does not make it right.

His comments were horrible.  He should lose his job.  There are very few good role models out there, and he makes a nasty comment about these women.

Just think, is there any situation where this would have come out of your mouth?  It is wrong.

And Sharpton should go down too.

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You liberals take life way too seriously.

I was just going to post a comment in the Election thread about this when I saw you made one here Airforce.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Hey, the market spoke. Imus got the hook because advertisers pulled their ads. Money talks, BS walks!

Imus had the double misfortune of saying what he did to whom he did on what is generally called "A slow news day!" Hey, he lived by the media, he made a living commenting on the popular culture, and now he has died by the bitten hand of his feeder. But he also made the mistake of picking on a bunch of college girls.

It's not the first time for Don. Back in the late sixties, early seventies I used to listen to him on 66 WNBC in NYC (I was like 10 or so, and my mother, whom is prudish, and I both listened to and liked Imus) until he said something that crossed a line and he got fired!

Off to <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Chicago (I think) to repent went Don (we all know that Dr. Johnny Fever of WKRP in Cincinnati is loosely based on Imus, right?) and eventually he got his seat back at NBC.... But he wasn't nearly as fun or funny as before... He had taken to drink, and cocaine was finding it's way up his nose too (or so I heard). Eventually, he went too far again and (IIRC) got s-canned again. Into rehab this time.

Then he came back again. This time to fight against the evil Dr. Howard Stern!(ooooohhhh).

Moral of that story being. Imus has been fired for life before!

Whom are the winners and who are the losers in this brouhaha?

Rutgers... Wins

Imus.... loses

NBC... Wins

CBS (so far)... Wins (bump up in listenership just for the morbid curiosity)

Sharpton v. Jackson... Sharpton increases his lead over Jesse as top spokesperson.

Sharpton v. Imus... Nobody really cares.

Presidential candidates...

McCain.... Loser, this steals his anti Dem speech thunder.

Newt... Winner. He told you there was a problem with Ghetto talk just last week didn't he?

Rudy... Loser; Tries to act as a mediator (from what little of him I heard) comes off as a dish rag.

Democrats... Are they still running? Last I heard of them was a Obama Clinton ticket with Hillary at the bottom of the ticket.

Imus - Wrong for what he said. However, that what he said is spoken and accepted on the streets in every city in the country by ordinary people speaks to the societal issues facing not only blacks but our entire society as a whole. It's become cool to "Go Ghetto" , the word "Ho", demeaning to black women, has entered the general vernacular and that's a problem.

MSNBC et al. - Hypocrits one and all. Media and corporate america might want to double check their own ethical closet when doling out Imus punishment or criticism. AMEX, P&G, GM and the rest bail on Imus for his racially insensative comment, yet advertise on MTV, VH1 and the Grammys all of which embrace Hip-Hop music. The same Hip-Hop music, much of which celebrates the demeaning of all women, but black women in particlar. Apparently, corporate racial ethics when it comes to these matters is blinded by the ringing cash register.

Al Sharpton - Freddy's Fashion Mart. Enough said.

BondGuy - you are my new favorite!

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Imus - Wrong for what he said. However, that what he said is spoken and accepted on the streets in every city in the country by ordinary people speaks to the societal issues facing not only blacks but our entire society as a whole. It’s become cool to “Go Ghetto” , the word “Ho”, demeaning to black women, has entered the general vernacular and that’s a problem.

MSNBC et al. - Hypocrits one and all. Media and corporate america might want to double check their own ethical closet when doling out Imus punishment or criticism. AMEX, P&G, GM and the rest bail on Imus for his racially insensative comment, yet advertise on MTV, VH1 and the Grammys all of which embrace Hip-Hop music. The same Hip-Hop music, much of which celebrates the demeaning of all women, but black women in particlar. Apparently, corporate racial ethics when it comes to these matters is blinded by the ringing cash register.

Al Sharpton - Freddy's Fashion Mart. Enough said.

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Al Sharpton - Freddy's Fashion Mart. Enough said.

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No doubt about it. Having the guy that owes Stephen Pagones a boatload of money, and Rev. Hymietown leading the charge again Imus does little more than make him, even with his moronic comments, seem sympathetic.

Rev. Hymietown

Wow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymie

Hey, the market spoke. Imus got the hook because advertisers pulled their ads. Money talks, BS walks!<?:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O />

Imus had the double misfortune of saying what he did to whom he did on what is generally called "A slow news day!" Hey, he lived by the media, he made a living commenting on the popular culture, and now he has died by the bitten hand of his feeder. But he also made the mistake of picking on a bunch of college girls.

Yep. It is all about crossing a line.

Imus - Wrong for what he said. However, that what he said is spoken and accepted on the streets in every city in the country by ordinary people speaks to the societal issues facing not only blacks but our entire society as a whole. It's become cool to "Go Ghetto" , the word "Ho", demeaning to black women, has entered the general vernacular and that's a problem.

If you are going to play near the line (comedy, art) you need to be smart enough to know where it is. Or maybe your brain needs to be young and supple enough to keep you clear. Maybe he was just trying too hard to be cool.

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Rev. Hymietown

Wow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymie

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I take it you've forgotten the Rev. Jackson's comment, and how he went off on the black reporter (for a lack of solidarity) who printed what he'd heard Jackson say in a private conversation.

It's all about the double standard that exists today.  Was what Imus said offensive and wrong. Yes it was.  However, the same words and attitude is expressed everyday by black rap artists ( and I use that term loosely here) who are making money hand over fist by exploiting and denigrating women, glorifying the gang and drug culture.  Where is the censure on this by the Black community? Nowhere.

So Imus apologizes and grovels for insulting the women on the basketball team, as he should do. Those women didn't deserve his foul mouth.  How anyone ever found him entertaining is beyond me.

BUT>>>>>> Where is the demand that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the other victimhood merchants apologize for the horrible things they said about the Duke LaCrosse players, who are also innocent of any wrong doing. When do they apologize to the Jewish community for the anti Semitic remarks that they make. Never and Nowhere!!  Because it is perfectly acceptable to be a reverse racist and never have to apologize for bigotry if you are not WASP (probably don't play golf either).  If you are Hispanic, Black or any other ethnic group, you can say anything you want.  If you are a white or in the case of Michelle Malkin oriental, you'd better watch your mouth.

This firing of Imus sets a bad precedent for anyone else who wants to have free speech.  It is free speech but only if the speech is approved by the Thought Police and has passed the political correctness test.  In order for our speech to be free, we have to put up with offensive and irritating speech that we disagree with as well as that with which we agree.

Free speech for me but not for thee.

Okay, so by extension, Rev. Hymietown ?

If you are Hispanic, Black or any other ethnic group, you can say anything you want.  If you are a white or in the case of Michelle Malkin oriental, you'd better watch your mouth.

Moving forward, the Imus incident makes everyone accountable. It raises the standard, this is how social progress in achieved. ( Even Adam Smith was in favor of that.)

Imus is judged solely in the context of his sponsors, career reputation, specific attack on college women and so on. And the market judges harshly.

We may feel frustrated about a double standard, but we are also just about the only people in America right now that are benefiting from the stable and expanding economy. On the golf course, we can recharge, count our blessings, and come back ready to help move our broader society forward.

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Okay, so by extension, Rev. Hymietown ?

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Is that a question directed to me?

Now that's BS.  My socioeconomic status doesn't give Jesse, or the Reverend or any other black or non white person a blank check to say anything they wish about white people because they aren't benefiting from today's economy.  Maybe if those same two put that much effort into improving the family dynamics that is so absent in their own culture we might all be better off.  They curse those in their own culture however that bring that up to - i.e. Bill Cosby. 

I raise the BS flag w/ that statement Silouette - sorry!

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Moving forward, the Imus incident makes everyone accountable. It raises the standard, this is how social progress in achieved. ( Even Adam Smith was in favor of that.) [/quote]

You don't really believe that, do you? "Everyone" will never be accountable...

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We may feel frustrated about a double standard, but we are also just about the only people in America right now that are benefiting from the stable and expanding economy. On the golf course, we can recharge, count our blessings, and come back ready to help move our broader society forward.

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Just wtf does that mean?

You may not have noticed, but employment numbers and home ownership rates are at or near all time highs for non-whites. There's plenty of room for gains in racial equality, but spare me the white-guilt. A little bit of attention towards the lunacy have having Sharpton and <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Jackson leading the charge against inflammatory racial commentary would be appreciated.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Speaking of hypocrisy, how about opportunist Obama jumping on the bash-Imus bandwagon now that that ship has sailed while having met with rappers at make millions spewing garbage about women every bit as bad, in fact often worse, than Imus ever has?

Yes, Mike.

[quote=silouette]Yes, Mike. [/quote]

So what exactly is your question? Are you taking issue with me for bringing up Jackson's comments?