First Eagle Funds
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If there are any of you that are plugged into First Eagle funds, I would be
curious to know if anyone has insight as to if they will ever re-open
Global or Overseas again. Global is one of my favorite funds, but I can’t
seem to find comments on whether they ever intend to re-open.
[quote=Broker24]If there are any of you that are plugged into First Eagle funds, I would be
curious to know if anyone has insight as to if they will ever re-open
Global or Overseas again. Global is one of my favorite funds, but I can’t
seem to find comments on whether they ever intend to re-open.[/quote]
Unlike some fund companies (cough American Funds cough ), they
realise that their investment strategy has a limited capacity.
[quote=AllREIT]
[quote=Broker24]If there are any of you that are plugged into First Eagle funds, I would be
curious to know if anyone has insight as to if they will ever re-open
Global or Overseas again. Global is one of my favorite funds, but I can’t
seem to find comments on whether they ever intend to re-open.[/quote]
Unlike some fund companies (cough American Funds cough ), they
realise that their investment strategy has a limited capacity.
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Hear hear.
I’m disgusted with what American has done. And so many people just don’t seem to get it. Maybe I’m the fool…
[quote=Broker24]If there are any of you that are plugged into First Eagle funds, I would be
curious to know if anyone has insight as to if they will ever re-open
Global or Overseas again. Global is one of my favorite funds, but I can't
seem to find comments on whether they ever intend to re-open.[/quote]
Global and Overseas won't be reopening anytime soon. You have to respect the people at 1st eagle.....they will keep upwards of 20-25%cash in their funds when they feel there is no value. If you have positions in the funds you can always add to them..... I wish there were more managers like these guys. They could certainly teach the Calamos family how to run a fund....
Ayyy. Calamos Growth was one of the largest positions in my book- and it crapped the bed last year… Repeated calls to them to see why was met with vague bull$hit answers… That position is slowly getting trimmed away to nothing…
Actually, I like both First Eagle and American. American actually
outperforms on a risk-adjusted basis. Their model is unique to the
industry, which allows them to do it. This is not kool-aid talking. I’ve
done my own DD on them. Try beating CAIBX’s risk adjusted returns.
Tough to do. $77B and they did 20% last year. But I am a full-fledged
value guy. You have to really study them and understand their model
before you criticize them.
I can design an AF portfolio that does 10.5% all time periods at a .50 Beta
and 4 or 5 alpha’s.
Most of their growth funds stink (I only use Europacific). But their value/
G&I funds are real good (I really only use Capital Income Builder, Income
Fund, CWGI, and maybe Fundamental Investors. I also use a couple bond
funds if I need a breakpoint). If American was not so closely tied to EDJ,
most of you would be impressed by their model. JMHO.
But I am always open to input, as I actually seek out other funds that can
beat CIABX on a risk adjusted basis. They are my favorite core holding,
but I like to look at others since I do get concerned about size. But again,
they did 20% last year with $77B in assets, and about 25% in bonds. It’s
pretty remarkable. I think they continue to do it because they hold a very
solid core, and can go anywhere they want. And they are really a fund-
of-funds the way they are managed.
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Hear hear.
I’m disgusted with what American has done. And so many people just don’t seem to get it. Maybe I’m the fool…
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Ultimately a really big fund is going to end up being a closet index
fund or else an active megacap fund. And there is no reason to pay for
either of them.
Another great example of people realising that their strategy has a limited capacity is Graham and Dodd shop, Tweedy Browne.
That’s sort of a generalization. I’m telling you, look at CAIBX. It’s nothing
remotely similar to the S&P. Big is typically only bad when you are
talking domestic large-cap funds, small-cap funds and certain bond
funds. Something like CAIBX is global, holds domestic bonds, foreign
bonds, cash, and can pretty much go anywhere. This ain’t Fidelity
Magellan.