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Apr 17, 2007 5:14 am

I am not a broker but I do have empathy for sales people.

Some pathetic loser posted something on another site about

the Ameriprise fishbowls and how he "collects" free lunches and gets his jollies by female advisors continually trying to reach him.

http://eatwisconsin.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/theres-no-such- thing-as-a-free-lunch/

Hmmm, don't have to be in the biz to post a relative topic, now do you?

Apr 17, 2007 5:20 am

[quote=goforbroke]

I am not a broker but I do have empathy for sales people.

Some pathetic loser posted something on another site about

the Ameriprise fishbowls and how he "collects" free lunches and gets his jollies by female advisors continually trying to reach him.

http://eatwisconsin.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/theres-no-such- thing-as-a-free-lunch/

Hmmm, don't have to be in the biz to post a relative topic, now do you?

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The best advice is to leave behind the name/address the last AMP broker you platelicked.

BTW, AMP'ers are damn persistant at following up on people. I attended a "free dinner" seminar once, and took about 4 months before the calls trailed off...
Apr 17, 2007 5:25 am

Hmmm, a RETURN call would have done the trick (common courtesy); in fact, I posted something on this on the amexsux site this very nite but…hmmm, I used one of my multiple personality alias…since I knew this would have pleased joe da brkr.  ck it out.

Apr 17, 2007 12:15 pm

[quote=goforbroke]

I am not a broker but I do have empathy for sales people.

Some pathetic loser posted something on another site about

the Ameriprise fishbowls and how he "collects" free lunches and gets his jollies by female advisors continually trying to reach him.

http://eatwisconsin.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/theres-no-such- thing-as-a-free-lunch/

Hmmm, don't have to be in the biz to post a relative topic, now do you?

[/quote]

I'm gonna start stealing business cards from the fishbowls.

Apr 17, 2007 1:50 pm

Now I know how Wholesalers feel after reading the link. 

This reminds me a story while at Jones of the now infamous $75 breakfast for one story. A new IR goodnight with 5 or 6 kids was in our town. He looked like he had 5 or 6 kids, his hygiene was, yuck. Anyway we have a very sophisticated American Funds Wholesaler. He would never get any of Bobby's jokes.  He was SO cheap all you ever would get from him are those pens and a breakfast at Cracker Barrel. There were about 5 Ir's meeting him for breakfast at CB. The IR with all the kids was late. He finally shows up and has never met the American Funds guy before that moment. Our orders had already been taken, we were drinking coffee shootin' the breeze while the IR lacking hygiene ordered.  We of course get our food before the other IR.  Now this is funny, while we were about to finish our food the IR lacking hygiene was about to get his food. I noticed several ladies carrying trays, 3 of those giant trays to be exact and they were heading our way. (we were in the back with no one else).  As they approached us the American Funds guy looks puzzled and said, "we already have our food."  Then hygiene boy turns around to the waitresses and said, "Oh thats my order, just leave me the pancakes, please put the rest in to-go boxes"  I am talking mounds of food, twice as much as we had ordered ourselves. While we were about to laugh ourselves under the table the AF wholesaler is speechless. Then hygiene boy turned around and never said a word.

That there was worth a few months at Jones, we still talk about it when I see some of them and the AF wholesaler now laughs at the buying that IR a $75 breakfast.

Apr 18, 2007 3:57 pm

First off, nobody gave the Ameriprise site any permission to post the blog posting from my website.  I just discovered it today. I don’t really mind because its generating a lot of traffic, but lets get some things straight: 
 
The post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.  I really didn't want people to do this to Ameriprise people.  It was meant to be a joke and a rip on how they do businesses.  If anyone would read what my blog is about you would see that it has nothing to do with Ameriprise.  It is a food blog and that is it.  
 
I would also like to state that I have had 1 free meal from Ameriprise, which was the initial meal referenced in my post (again, the post was not really meant to be taken seriously). The lunch was set up as a result of a friend who dropped his business card in the bowl. The title of my post was called "There's no such thing as a free lunch."  What I was really trying to get across is to get people to think about the question "Is it worth a 7 dollar lunch to be harassed by Ameriprise?"   
 
I do not get some sick turn on by having a person call me 25 times. I just think that if I hadn't called back after 2-3 tries they would get the picture.  I just wanted to see how persistent these people are. To read anything more into this is absurd.  Regardless of whether you are male or female, I think Ameriprise has terrible business practices.  
 

I find it interesting that a guy in Wisconsin can write a blog post joking about Ameriprise and their stupid free lunches and all of a sudden I am some pervert who is out eating a bunch of free lunches with the women of Ameriprise because I get some type of sexual gratification from it.  Friggen pathetic!

Apr 18, 2007 4:25 pm

[quote=eatwisconsin]

First off, nobody gave the Ameriprise site any permission to post the blog posting from my website.  I just discovered it today. I don’t really mind because its generating a lot of traffic, but lets get some things straight: 
 
The post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.  I really didn’t want people to do this to Ameriprise people.  It was meant to be a joke and a rip on how they do businesses.  If anyone would read what my blog is about you would see that it has nothing to do with Ameriprise.  It is a food blog and that is it.  
 
I would also like to state that I have had 1 free meal from Ameriprise, which was the initial meal referenced in my post (again, the post was not really meant to be taken seriously). The lunch was set up as a result of a friend who dropped his business card in the bowl. The title of my post was called “There’s no such thing as a free lunch.”  What I was really trying to get across is to get people to think about the question “Is it worth a 7 dollar lunch to be harassed by Ameriprise?”   
 
I do not get some sick turn on by having a person call me 25 times. I just think that if I hadn’t called back after 2-3 tries they would get the picture.  I just wanted to see how persistent these people are. To read anything more into this is absurd.  Regardless of whether you are male or female, I think Ameriprise has terrible business practices.  
 

I find it interesting that a guy in Wisconsin can write a blog post joking about Ameriprise and their stupid free lunches and all of a sudden I am some pervert who is out eating a bunch of free lunches with the women of Ameriprise because I get some type of sexual gratification from it.  Friggen pathetic!

[/quote]

Welcome to registered rep, and sorry if you've had a bad first exposure to us.

Your link was posted by one of our resident trolls who hangs out here posting stream of consciousness and they aren't even in the business.

Anyone who has survived in our business for longer than a cup of coffee knows that if they hold seminars or put out fishbowls there are going to be people who come who respond and have a meal who have little or no interest in becoming a client.  It's just something you come to grips with.

I remember one time when I was a rookie I received a reply envelope to a mailing I'd done, and the person had used MY postage to send me an envelope full of their torn up junk mail.  At first I was pissed and found their name on a piece of the mail and was going to call them, but in the end I got over it and I had a good laugh.

Smart rookies learn to call prospects/seminar attendees 3-5 times and  if there isn't some sign of interest drop it and move on to someone else, because there are LOTS of people out there.  Desparate(or poorly trained) rookies "hoard" their leads, calling them over and over and over, because they aren't prospecting enough and so they don't have enough leads.

Personally I found your article to be pretty funny!
Apr 18, 2007 5:45 pm

Glengarry Glen Ross

Jack Lemmon shows up on your doorstep one night, looking like a drowned rat and wanting to sell you a timeshare. "Please! My wife filled out a contest form seven years ago. We don't want to buy a timeshare, REALLY!" THAT'S persistence.

"I find it interesting that a guy in Wisconsin can write a blog post joking about Ameriprise and their stupid free lunches and all of a sudden I am some pervert who is out eating a bunch of free lunches with the women of Ameriprise because I get some type of sexual gratification from it.  Friggen pathetic!"

Yeah, think of that poor schmuck who did the "Yuma yuma dance" (?) and all of a sudden he is a world wide laughing stock.

This is your fifteen minutes, enj....

Time's up.

Apr 18, 2007 5:55 pm

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Glengarry Glen Ross

Jack Lemmon shows up on your doorstep one night, looking like a drowned rat and wanting to sell you a timeshare. "Please! My wife filled out a contest form seven years ago. We don't want to buy a timeshare, REALLY!" THAT'S persistence.

"I find it interesting that a guy in Wisconsin can write a blog post joking about Ameriprise and their stupid free lunches and all of a sudden I am some pervert who is out eating a bunch of free lunches with the women of Ameriprise because I get some type of sexual gratification from it.  Friggen pathetic!"

Yeah, think of that poor schmuck who did the "Yuma yuma dance" (?) and all of a sudden he is a world wide laughing stock.

This is your fifteen minutes, enj....

Time's up.

[/quote]

Yuma Yuma dance?  Got link?
Apr 18, 2007 6:10 pm

[quote=eatwisconsin]

First off, nobody gave the Ameriprise site any permission to post the blog posting from my website.  I just discovered it today. I don’t really mind because its generating a lot of traffic, but lets get some things straight: 

What?? Who or what post mentioned it was on the Ameriprise site.
 
The post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.  I really didn't want people to do this to Ameriprise people.  It was meant to be a joke and a rip on how they do businesses.  If anyone would read what my blog is about you would see that it has nothing to do with Ameriprise.  It is a food blog and that is it.  

Why not?  They have ripped some people off look up the lost lawsuit's.
 
I would also like to state that I have had 1 free meal from Ameriprise, which was the initial meal referenced in my post (again, the post was not really meant to be taken seriously). The lunch was set up as a result of a friend who dropped his business card in the bowl. The title of my post was called "There's no such thing as a free lunch."  What I was really trying to get across is to get people to think about the question "Is it worth a 7 dollar lunch to be harassed by Ameriprise?"  

Like you said if you fake them out with wrong information, you get a free meal at a Sushi Restaurant 
 
I do not get some sick turn on by having a person call me 25 times. I just think that if I hadn't called back after 2-3 tries they would get the picture.  I just wanted to see how persistent these people are. To read anything more into this is absurd.  Regardless of whether you are male or female, I think Ameriprise has terrible business practices.  
 

Keep preaching to the choir, brother.

I find it interesting that a guy in Wisconsin can write a blog post joking about Ameriprise and their stupid free lunches and all of a sudden I am some pervert who is out eating a bunch of free lunches with the women of Ameriprise because I get some type of sexual gratification from it.  Friggen pathetic!

Aww, now I get it this is goforbroke trolling.

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Apr 18, 2007 6:18 pm

I meant the “Ameriprise sux” site.

Apr 18, 2007 6:20 pm

Numa Numa

Internet phenomenon from some guy who did a lip sync on the net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60og9gwKh1o

Somebody let this guy out of his Mother's basement..please

Navy guys having fun with the song.. they are so cute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puVmKfCwb4M&mode=related& amp;search=

And for the World of Warcraft aficionados

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlFwnH424Gs&mode=related& amp;search=

Apr 18, 2007 6:22 pm

[quote=Whomitmayconcer]

Glengarry Glen Ross

Jack Lemmon shows up on your doorstep one night, looking like a drowned rat and wanting to sell you a timeshare. "Please! My wife filled out a contest form seven years ago. We don't want to buy a timeshare, REALLY!" THAT'S persistence.

"I find it interesting that a guy in Wisconsin can write a blog post joking about Ameriprise and their stupid free lunches and all of a sudden I am some pervert who is out eating a bunch of free lunches with the women of Ameriprise because I get some type of sexual gratification from it.  Friggen pathetic!"

Yeah, think of that poor schmuck who did the "Yuma yuma dance" (?) and all of a sudden he is a world wide laughing stock.

This is your fifteen minutes, enj....

Time's up.

If you mean num num guy, he is hilarious.

[/quote]
Apr 19, 2007 2:52 pm

EatWisconsin,

I read your blog, and in no way does it infer tongue in cheek.  I have never worked for Amex/Ameriprise, however I do know two groups in my area that are very successful (1MM+).

When you are a young broker, you have to do everything you can to attract potential clients.  If putting out fishbowls gets cheeks in the seats, then by all means, put out fishbowls.  I guess the byproduct of this however is coming into contact with cottom feeders like yourself.

You allowed someone to call you 25 times to see how persistent they are???  Sure, she should have moved off your dead a** a long time ago, but what happened to common courtesy???  If you weren't interested, you should not have wasted her time, at the lunch or on the phone. 

I think perhaps you are some kind of perverse payoff from her calls, as if YOU were the guy trying to "blow her off after a bad date." 

I'd say you've never had that problem... 

Apr 19, 2007 4:48 pm

[quote=joedabrkr] [quote=eatwisconsin]

First off, nobody gave the Ameriprise site any permission to post the blog posting from my website.  I just discovered it today. I don’t really mind because its generating a lot of traffic, but lets get some things straight: 
 
The post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.  I really didn't want people to do this to Ameriprise people.  It was meant to be a joke and a rip on how they do businesses.  If anyone would read what my blog is about you would see that it has nothing to do with Ameriprise.  It is a food blog and that is it.  
 
I would also like to state that I have had 1 free meal from Ameriprise, which was the initial meal referenced in my post (again, the post was not really meant to be taken seriously). The lunch was set up as a result of a friend who dropped his business card in the bowl. The title of my post was called "There's no such thing as a free lunch."  What I was really trying to get across is to get people to think about the question "Is it worth a 7 dollar lunch to be harassed by Ameriprise?"   
 
I do not get some sick turn on by having a person call me 25 times. I just think that if I hadn't called back after 2-3 tries they would get the picture.  I just wanted to see how persistent these people are. To read anything more into this is absurd.  Regardless of whether you are male or female, I think Ameriprise has terrible business practices.  
 

I find it interesting that a guy in Wisconsin can write a blog post joking about Ameriprise and their stupid free lunches and all of a sudden I am some pervert who is out eating a bunch of free lunches with the women of Ameriprise because I get some type of sexual gratification from it.  Friggen pathetic!

[/quote]

Welcome to registered rep, and sorry if you've had a bad first exposure to us.

Your link was posted by one of our resident trolls who hangs out here posting stream of consciousness and they aren't even in the business.

Anyone who has survived in our business for longer than a cup of coffee knows that if they hold seminars or put out fishbowls there are going to be people who come who respond and have a meal who have little or no interest in becoming a client.  It's just something you come to grips with.

I remember one time when I was a rookie I received a reply envelope to a mailing I'd done, and the person had used MY postage to send me an envelope full of their torn up junk mail.  At first I was pissed and found their name on a piece of the mail and was going to call them, but in the end I got over it and I had a good laugh.

Smart rookies learn to call prospects/seminar attendees 3-5 times and  if there isn't some sign of interest drop it and move on to someone else, because there are LOTS of people out there.  Desparate(or poorly trained) rookies "hoard" their leads, calling them over and over and over, because they aren't prospecting enough and so they don't have enough leads.

Personally I found your article to be pretty funny!
[/quote]

EW:

What joedaresidenta*ho is trying to say is WELCOME (he loves it when non-brokers post here.)  So keep on posting here...he and his little dog, BH, welcome you with all 10 legs (all the extra leg, is the one that the usually "sock up" with.) 

It's interesting how you found this site, though.  Especially when you just posted on the sux site.  What do you do all day google your own site...? oh, besides letting the ameriprise ladies call you all day while you're ...giving yourself a "sock" treatment...