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Jan 25, 2009 1:54 am

the most disappointing thing about this forum is people like you.  Listen, I have a family and would not be wasting my time spreading lies.  Get a life. 

  My regional director who was also a director of an office was let go, not demoted.  I am a RD who also produces and I reported to him.   Any other questions smart ass.
Jan 25, 2009 1:56 am

[quote=bigboy]the most disappointing thing about this forum is people like you.  Listen, I have a family and would not be wasting my time spreading lies.  Get a life. 

  My regional director who was also a director of an office was let go, not demoted.  I am a RD who also produces and I reported to him.   Any other questions smart ass. [/quote]


I have a question....Would you like to buy some XXX pictures of your wife?
Jan 25, 2009 2:00 am

Just because your wife is size XXX doesn’t mean everyone else’s wife is large.

Jan 25, 2009 3:16 am

[quote=bigboy]the most disappointing thing about this forum is people like you.  Listen, I have a family and would not be wasting my time spreading lies.  Get a life. 

  My regional director who was also a director of an office was let go, not demoted.  I am a RD who also produces and I reported to him.   Any other questions smart ass. [/quote]

Nope.  I just thinks it's cool how on teh interweb you can be whatever you want to be.  For example...today I'm a retired pro football player, on my way to pick up my new Bentley convertible. 
Jan 25, 2009 3:22 am

You gonna let him talk about your wife like that bigboy?

I think someone should put their tootsie roll in a keyhole (i’m sure it will fit) and let some EIA annuity wholesalers play with it.

Jan 25, 2009 8:25 am

The truth is they ML is firing 1000 POA/PMDs.  My branch told all but one  of us on Friday that we are offically gone on Feb. 6th and to go home and look for a new job and get paid untill then.  A medium broker left Thurday night and forced managment to tell us early becuse they could not reasign us any accounts.  The official day for all the firings is Feb 6th.  After we left they had a second meeting explaing why they had to send us out early.  They should not distibute our accounts untill Feb 6th.  I dont know what they would be able to tell my clients before then.  I am not fired and I have not resigned yet.  My e-mail, mobile terminal and voice mail still work.

  I am not sure if I should resign before Feb 6th. 
Jan 25, 2009 1:47 pm

We have a POA/PMD meeting this week. At this point, I have convinced myself that it is time to move on, regardless of their decision. Prospecting for this firm has become tedious, and that’s putting it nicely.



Merrill’s reputation is beyond the point of repair, especially in the short term. For POA’s, timing is everything. Now I don’t care when or if they are able to rebuild that reputation. I will choose to grow my business elsewhere.



Thanks for all the training, ML. Hopefully I won’t have to reveal where I was trained as I gather assets somewhere else…LOL



Premiere wealth management business? I think not.

Jan 25, 2009 2:00 pm

I am a PMD for ML as well. I heard that you can get the axe at any time between now and Feb. 6. It's disappointing to know that I am well ahead of my goals and they are putting me on the street anyway. My manager has basically stopped speaking to me over the last week. If that's not a slap in the face, then I don't know what is. I was also told by one of my coaches at the beginning of the week that they are not going to use anymore resources or put anymore energy into PMD/POA's.

This is the first of many cuts across the board-operations, CA's, and resident managers are coming as well.   Ya think BAC is pissed about this deal?! These cuts came furiously.
Jan 25, 2009 2:28 pm

[quote=MacPhisto]

I am a PMD for ML as well. I heard that you can get the axe at any time between now and Feb. 6. It’s disappointing to know that I am well ahead of my goals and they are putting me on the street anyway. My manager has basically stopped speaking to me over the last week. If that’s not a slap in the face, then I don’t know what is. I was also told by one of my coaches at the beginning of the week that they are not going to use anymore resources or put anymore energy into PMD/POA’s.

This is the first of many cuts across the board-operations, CA's, and resident managers are coming as well.   Ya think BAC is pissed about this deal?! These cuts came furiously.[/quote]

You've been a member here for 3.5 years and you're still in a rookie program?
Jan 25, 2009 4:15 pm

Good luck to all of those ML POA/PMDers who are getting their walking papers.  View this as an opportunity.  If you were bringing in assets and those assets will follow you, find another company or go indy.

–WM

Jan 25, 2009 6:12 pm

No I was an assistant at SB for 3 years and have been in ML’s program for 6 mos.

Jan 25, 2009 6:41 pm

I went to MS on Friday and it has been great.  I was hired under the POA program and now I am in the MS program.  I got a nice sign on bonus and they have been extremely helpful.  Best part is, ML is running such a skeleton crew, they havent contacted one of my clients yet.  If you have a chance, I would reach out to MS.

Jan 25, 2009 6:56 pm
FAinFLA:

I went to MS on Friday and it has been great.  I was hired under the POA program and now I am in the MS program.  I got a nice sign on bonus and they have been extremely helpful.  Best part is, ML is running such a skeleton crew, they havent contacted one of my clients yet.  If you have a chance, I would reach out to MS.

  Glad its been good for you at MS, if you got some $$ thats even better.  But would not recommend anyone who is under 300K or especially in the trainee program at ML to land there.  Be in a very similar position by year end, much better finding a situation where you can have some confidence you can build something for the longer term.
Jan 25, 2009 7:09 pm

I’m not sure I agree.  My payout is locked in for several years and MS is an easy sell right now against the disgrace that is ML.

Jan 25, 2009 7:33 pm
FAinFLA:

I’m not sure I agree.  My payout is locked in for several years and MS is an easy sell right now against the disgrace that is ML.

  they did two blanket cuts in 2002 and 2005..225k in 2005 and in both cases trainees where shown the door.  If they dont do it again it would be amazing, especially with all the SB guys joining on, and with the despair in the market and T-12's going forward think there will be some serious hatchet cuts coming.  We had a region guy come in in July 2005 and talked about how there would be no cuts and blah blah..45 days later he got layed off and another 30 days they cut 2000 brokers with 0 notice.  My point is no one will tell you the truth until it happens.
Jan 25, 2009 7:43 pm

I go to the office every day not knowing whats next, I think anyone under 500K could be cut at any time. These are bankers were dealing with, not a brokerage firm. They don’t understand thats a good producer.

Jan 25, 2009 7:46 pm

[quote=kappa1997]I go to the office every day not knowing whats next, I think anyone under 500K could be cut at any time. These are bankers were dealing with, not a brokerage firm. They don’t understand thats a good producer.[/quote]
Well said. Thats the whole crux of the problem. Bankers.
Its Bankers that took down WS and SB. Now they are taking down ML

Jan 25, 2009 9:00 pm

Can someone who has been informed that on FEB 6, ML trainees will get cut, why in the world would you want to continue to go to work and stare at your computer and act like you still work there? What kind of contact can you have with clients and when would your accounts be reassigned to senior FAs?

I just don't understand how ML/BofA can say that you are being terminated effective at a future date and expect you to continue to focus on bringing in new relationships   Full disclosure: I am in POA and meeting my goals, we are told keep bringing in new money and everything will be fine, but I don't believe it.   For those that have posted on this specific thread, could you clarify what this means?
Jan 25, 2009 10:21 pm

They are full of it.  You have 75% chance of being on the list and cut. They say anyone who has missed 50% of their hurdels is gone but they have axed people who have just begun and people that have met every goal.

I would consider your chances grim.  They tried to hide the layoffs untill Feb 6th but issues have forced managers to start sending POA/PMDs out early.
Jan 25, 2009 11:40 pm

[quote=nyhavn17]

Can someone who has been informed that on FEB 6, ML trainees will get cut, why in the world would you want to continue to go to work and stare at your computer and act like you still work there? What kind of contact can you have with clients and when would your accounts be reassigned to senior FAs?

I just don't understand how ML/BofA can say that you are being terminated effective at a future date and expect you to continue to focus on bringing in new relationships   Full disclosure: I am in POA and meeting my goals, we are told keep bringing in new money and everything will be fine, but I don't believe it.   For those that have posted on this specific thread, could you clarify what this means?[/quote]

Outsider here, but it sounds as if they are doing you a small favor, giving you a week or two to find another job while you are still technically employed. Obviously they don't expect you to do any business.