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Jan 16, 2006 7:47 pm

That would amuse you Dirky.    

Jan 17, 2006 6:30 pm

Just got issue with article in it... Love how one panelist remarks that she has placed "a number of almost million dollar producers" last year out of Ed Jones. And Jones has been a very, very good target. Yet the mantra at Jones is turnover not up...not losing vets... I guess those producers "Just dont fit in" either BBD. 

Take another toke from the Kool-aid bong.

Jan 21, 2006 7:27 am

Bill F-upped

You need an enema.........First get your head out of there...........

You can't handle the TRUTH 

Jan 23, 2006 1:48 pm

Don't you like how BF avoided addressing any substance I raised as well as the original article pertaining to this thread?

Jan 29, 2006 3:56 am

Bill,

Help me out...it sounds just like your angry and won't address the real issues...csmelnix laid it out clean and said some pretty clear stuff but every post I see from you avoids the real issues..Be a sport!!! Give a real answer I am curious

Feb 10, 2006 2:42 pm
JonesIR:

I’m shocked that we were picked dead last. I went home and told my wife and kids the sad news. Everyone was crying. Even little tiny Tim was sobbing until the dog knocked his crutches out from under him and everyone had a good laugh. I really don’t know where to turn. Our business model doesn’t make sense. I guess it would be better if we at Jones left our senseless branches next to the Dental clinic, boarded a bus for New Jersey and jammed ourselves into a room full of really nice greyish cubicles. THAT would be fun. Then I could hear Ricky Roma next door selling the next great investment banking product to Mrs Delores Kawicki of Great Neck, New York. I now realize that making 3-4 hundred grand a year, driving to my own office where no one bothers me but my hyperactive BOA’s, leaving at 4 pm. every day to watch my kids play sports or coach baseball is really a pathetic, horrible way to live.


Bill…I thought what you wrote was hillarious…Sounds like you have worked hard and are enjoying the fruits of your work. I love the ability to spend time w/family in a town I grew up in.

Feb 10, 2006 2:44 pm

What kind of dog does jones “let” you have?

Feb 10, 2006 6:00 pm

[quote=JonesIR]I'm shocked that we were picked dead last. I went home and told my wife and kids the sad news. Everyone was crying. Even little tiny Tim was sobbing until the dog knocked his crutches out from under him and everyone had a good laugh. I really don't know where to turn. Our business model doesn't make sense. I guess it would be better if we at Jones left our senseless branches next to the Dental clinic, boarded a bus for New Jersey and jammed ourselves into a room full of really nice greyish cubicles. THAT would be fun. Then I could hear Ricky Roma next door selling the next great investment banking product to Mrs Delores Kawicki of Great Neck, New York. I now realize that making 3-4 hundred grand a year, driving to my own office where no one bothers me but my hyperactive BOA's, leaving at 4 pm. every day to watch my kids play sports or coach baseball is really a pathetic, horrible way to live.


Bill...I thought what you wrote was hillarious...Sounds like you have worked hard and are enjoying the fruits of your work. I love the ability to spend time w/family in a town I grew up in. [/quote]

JonesIR,

How many brokers in your region actually make 3-4 hundred grand a year.  If it is anything like my old region maybe 2 or 3 out of about 60.  Thats not even 5%.  Wake up.  Smell the kool-aid. 

Actually, just keep chasing the carrot, your rants are entertaining.  And keep comparing Jones to the illusion the GP's have painted for you.  It appears to keep you motivated.

BTW, I think Jones has started puting more offices next to dental clinics...tired of IR's having such aweful teeth.

Feb 10, 2006 10:32 pm

I'm surprised this post keeps coming back again and again. I am one of the 2 or 3 lucky ones, I guess. Although, as I look at my screen, there are several ahead of me on the chart. I actually have a dental office next to me, as it turns out. I always see the poor guy yanking on someones teeth as I head home at 5. I wonder if he makes more than me....I know he has a nicer car.

Feb 13, 2006 1:17 pm

BF,

At least the Dentist owns his book of business. How long has the dentist next to you been in business?  Is he divorced?  Does he have any kids in college?  What sort of car do you drive, what sort of car does he drive?  Did he recently purchase the business? Does he also have a nicer house that you? Is he your client?  Does he have more than one broker?

Sure these are regular questions, but as always BF the true "green" koolaid chugger forgets to provide adequate disclosure.....hmmmm sounds like what got his employer into trouble and cost Mr. Hill his job?

As always BF is such a card he forgets to answer any preious questions put to him.

Feb 13, 2006 7:55 pm

Bill,

You seem to think EXACTLY the thoughts that Jones wants you to whenever your debated.  Your employer is the smart one here--let's not lose sight of that fact.  Your not alone though.  There are many like you within the collective. 

Feb 14, 2006 2:35 am

[quote=zacko]

Bill,

You seem to think EXACTLY the thoughts that Jones wants you to whenever your debated.  Your employer is the smart one here--let's not lose sight of that fact.  Your not alone though.  There are many like you within the collective.[/quote]

And that is what really scares the rest of us.  No-one at BF's employer can think for themselves?

Feb 14, 2006 3:15 pm

All their bulls**t detectors are on the fritz. Can’t get hired @ jones if yours is working.

Feb 14, 2006 5:30 pm

I am still amazed that about 8 years ago I was as bad as Bill on this very forum.  Maybe 8 years from now Bill will have wised up like I did.  Some of us are slower to figure things out I guess.  I gotta say...man I LOVE having a business that is about 65% annuitized.

Feb 14, 2006 7:45 pm

I'm close to 50% annuitized myself.  Clients really like it better I've found as well.

Whether you are a fan of the fee based platform or not---it's awfully nice to have the option to choose either and not be pressured ( or recieve a higher payout) to push one over the other.

Feb 14, 2006 8:18 pm

When I was looking to leave jones one of the guys I talked with at LPL said it like this:

Someday you will have to stop forcing your clients into your model and begin to adapt your model to the client. 

That has stayed with me since.  It just underscores what you said Zacko; it's nice to have all the options available for you to choose with your clients v your b/d choosing for you.

Feb 15, 2006 4:45 am

Anyone still at Jones have any comment on the recent compliance notice that says IR’s can’t say in publice that they do financial planning or any kind of planning for that matter?  Have they stripped you of even your quasi professional status and made you a true product pusher now?

Feb 15, 2006 2:19 pm
exdrone:

Anyone still at Jones have any comment on the recent compliance notice that says IR’s can’t say in publice that they do financial planning or any kind of planning for that matter?  Have they stripped you of even your quasi professional status and made you a true product pusher now?

Feb 15, 2006 2:20 pm

Wouldn’t this compliance memo somehow affect their adverising and seminars?

Feb 15, 2006 6:01 pm

I am still reeling from the recent compliance memo on joneslink that attempts to tell us NOT to use analogys. Or only ones that they approve of. They don't like the grocery strore analogy when describing revenue sharing. Where will this end?

I know when I leave. I am feeling more like an employee all the time.