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Jun 8, 2007 9:35 pm

What I find, is that it is very easy to make bad decisions when tired, including assements of game conditions. So I pretty much always rack up when I'm not feeling 100%.

Yep, that's why I don't play cards in Reno.  Too easy to get distracted (drunk).  I play Keno.  50 or so games at a time and go do something else.  See a show, go shopping, eat, swim, sleep.

Gives me the feeling that I'm in the game and actually I usually break even or win some.  Occaisonally I win a fairly nice ticket.  Last one was 7 out of 8 on a $2 ticket.   I find it much better to pony up for a lot of games and get out of the Casino envrionment which will just suck up more money.

Plus I usual make my Reno trips something to do with business so I can write most of it off.

Jun 8, 2007 9:58 pm

[quote=blarmston]

That's why I moved here

Can I come visit? I will bring the crew and we can all get after it.....

[/quote]

I'd love to get the RR crew here for a Vegas weekend, it'd be nice to put faces with names, why don't we put Ms. PoopChute/Freedom/Madison/SexyLady/Echo/and who knows what else is charge of the orginization, she obviously has free time.

Although the thought of Bobby Hull in Vegas just send shivers down my spine.....we'd never be he same.

Jun 8, 2007 10:02 pm

[quote=ExPropTrader][quote=blarmston]

That's why I moved here

Can I come visit? I will bring the crew and we can all get after it.....

[/quote]

I'd love to get the RR crew here for a Vegas weekend, it'd be nice to put faces with names, why don't we put Ms. PoopChute/Freedom/Madison/SexyLady/Echo/and who knows what else is charge of the orginization, she obviously has free time.

Although the thought of Bobby Hull in Vegas just send shivers down my spine.....we'd never be he same.

[/quote]

The idea of gathering together in LV sounds like fun, but I would NEVER want that freak to know who I am.
Jun 8, 2007 10:04 pm

[quote=Dust Bunny]

What I find, is that it is very easy
to make bad decisions when tired, including assements of game
conditions. So I pretty much always rack up when I’m not feeling 100%.

Yep, that's why I don't play cards in Reno.  Too easy to get distracted (drunk).  I play Keno.  50 or so games at a time and go do something else.  See a show, go shopping, eat, swim, sleep. [QUOTE]

I also love Keno.

You give the waitress a big tip, and she'll keep you well supplied in booze. Who wants to slave away at a poker table surrounding yourself with losers?

Reno is awesome, I love Harrah's steakhouse.

http://www.harrahs.com/images/non_image_assets/REN_Steakhous eDinnerMenu.pdf

Yum Yum.

Jun 8, 2007 10:12 pm

I was in Reno two years ago, and we ate at the steak house at the Peppermill, I think?  It was a large casino off the strip.  The food and the service was quite fantastic, but the only problem was that the entire interior of the casino and the steakhouse itself were decorated in NEON.  After at while it made us all friggin’ crazy!

Jun 8, 2007 10:26 pm

Atlantis Oyster and Sushi Bar rocks.  If you go during the week the rooms are dirt cheap (39 to 59 a nite) and the service is excellent because they aren't full, like on weekends. They have an awesome pool/spa outside and a great indoor pool.

Peppermill gives me a headache.....too bright and reflective. They are doing some massive building on that casino. New parking garage and another wing to the hotel I think.

If you like downtown,  The Silver Legacy is a good spot.  Has a neat microbrew pub and restaurant.  The wheat beer is great.

The Nugget in Sparks is good also.  Pan Roast is a must at least once.

We go several times a year plus for Hot August Nites!!!  Your tour guide report for the moment.

Jun 8, 2007 10:28 pm

[quote=ExPropTrader][quote=blarmston]

That's why I moved here

Can I come visit? I will bring the crew and we can all get after it.....

[/quote]

I'd love to get the RR crew here for a Vegas weekend, it'd be nice to put faces with names, why don't we put Ms. PoopChute/Freedom/Madison/SexyLady/Echo/and who knows what else is charge of the orginization, she obviously has free time.

Although the thought of Bobby Hull in Vegas just send shivers down my spine.....we'd never be he same.

[/quote]

20 years ago, it would've blown your mind to hang out with me in Las Vegas. Today, it would bore you to tears.

Jun 9, 2007 1:27 am

LOL @ the direction of the thread.

Interesting little update. I'll post more about my day but I figured this little tidbit was worthy of it's own post.

So the POS that stood me up never called me back. I wasn't worried. I was at a recital for my neice this evening. After the recital I notice he's there as well. We make eye contact and are only about 15 feet away. He immediately looks away. I say F - it so I  walk up. I say, Hey how are you!? Who are you here to see this evening. He's there to see his neice as well. I ask, so what happened yesterday at the restuarant?

He says, "Yeah, I just wasn't in the mood to drive downtown..."

He lives about 10 miles outside of town. He doesn't work. He has zero responsibilities. He just wasn't in the mood.

I say, "Well I appreciate the honesty. If you're interested we can reschedule. I only ask that you show a little respect going forward and at least call me if you're not in the mood."

Cue the stare down and awkward silence.

I think he was a little embarassed because he proceeds to stutter and stammer about how he'd like to reschedule for next week and how he was meaning to call me on Monday.

I ended up making a joke out of it saying how it looked like a putz sitting at the restaurant waiting around. Trying to defuse the tension.

This probably wasn't the best thing to do but everyone has to mold their business a certain way. I'm my clients partner, not their bitch and I require at least the minimum courtesy and professionalism.

I told him I'd call him Monday morning to setup for next weeks appointment. I'll use BH's line about pencil or pen. We'll see how it goes.

Jun 9, 2007 1:33 am

Good for you.  It takes a real man to do that, I’m Fing proud of you.

Jun 9, 2007 3:21 am

[quote=joedabrkr]I was in Reno two years ago, and we ate at the steak house at the Peppermill, I think?  It was a large casino off the strip.  The food and the service was quite fantastic, but the only problem was that the entire interior of the casino and the steakhouse itself were decorated in NEON.  After at while it made us all friggin' crazy! [/quote]

Las Vegas has restaurants? GTFOOH!!!

Jun 9, 2007 3:24 am

[quote=707SE]

LOL @ the direction of the thread.

Interesting little update. I'll post more about my day but I figured this little tidbit was worthy of it's own post.

So the POS that stood me up never called me back. I wasn't worried. I was at a recital for my neice this evening. After the recital I notice he's there as well. We make eye contact and are only about 15 feet away. He immediately looks away. I say F - it so I  walk up. I say, Hey how are you!? Who are you here to see this evening. He's there to see his neice as well. I ask, so what happened yesterday at the restuarant?

He says, "Yeah, I just wasn't in the mood to drive downtown..."

He lives about 10 miles outside of town. He doesn't work. He has zero responsibilities. He just wasn't in the mood.

I say, "Well I appreciate the honesty. If you're interested we can reschedule. I only ask that you show a little respect going forward and at least call me if you're not in the mood."

Cue the stare down and awkward silence.

I think he was a little embarassed because he proceeds to stutter and stammer about how he'd like to reschedule for next week and how he was meaning to call me on Monday.

I ended up making a joke out of it saying how it looked like a putz sitting at the restaurant waiting around. Trying to defuse the tension.

This probably wasn't the best thing to do but everyone has to mold their business a certain way. I'm my clients partner, not their bitch and I require at least the minimum courtesy and professionalism.

I told him I'd call him Monday morning to setup for next weeks appointment. I'll use BH's line about pencil or pen. We'll see how it goes.

[/quote]

This cocksucker thinks he owes you, now, and you need to milk it for all it's worth. From this point forward, you need to make him your bitch.

Jun 9, 2007 4:35 am

[quote=AllREIT] [quote=Mucho de Tejas]

AllREIT,

Right on about the poker. I am in a mega slump now and going to Vegas next week. Does not look good for the Gipper. Trying to turn the ship ASAP. The market fall does not help either.

MDT

[/quote]

That's the exact time not to play. You want to be well rested and in good mental shape, while playing against people who are tired and in poor mental shape.

Someone who is well rested has at least a 30% advantage over someone who tired. Tired/drunk people can't think and can't resist psychological baises.
[/quote]

Okay, I took your advice and took a nap today. Then I went to the dog track and got clocked... not one winning ticket. There is a darrkkk cloud following me which I cannot shake. I need to go see a Shaman or Tribal leader to cleanse me.

Actually, I am going to Vegas for Rehab at the Hard Rock on the 17th and then for some work related stuff on the 18th. How much could I possibly lose in 24 hours, huh?

Jun 9, 2007 4:37 am

This cocksucker thinks he owes you, now, and you need to milk it for all it's worth. From this point forward, you need to make him your bitch.

It's too late.  707SE is already his bitch.   The POS is the one in control.  He had no respect for 707SE and now I guarantee that he even has less.  Look at the facts.  He blew him off for a meeting because he "wasn't in the mood".  He doesn't bother to call to say that he won't be there.  He doesn't call afterwards to apologize.  He tries to avoid 707SE at the recital.  707SE promises to call on Monday morning.  There is only one bitch in this relationship.

707SE, you have no shot of doing business with this guy because he doesn't respect you.  You have to get him to respect you or else you'll be wasting your time. 

When you call him on Monday, if you talk to him, schedule the meeting for your office.  If he wants to meet anywhere else, say, "No.  My time is too valuable and I can't take a chance of being stood up again."   If for any reason, he won't schedule an appointment, do not tell him that you'll call back.  Instead ask him to call your office when he's ready to meet.  Do not meet him outside of your office. 

If he's not there when you call, leave a message.  "This is 707SE.  Please call my office if you are interested in scheduling a meeting."  When he doesn't call you back, do not call again.  If he's an "A" prospect, put him ahead for a year and then call back then.  Otherwise, toss him.

Jun 9, 2007 4:43 am

[quote=anonymous]

This cocksucker thinks he owes you, now, and you need to milk it for all it’s worth. From this point forward, you need to make him your bitch.

It's too late.  707SE is already his bitch.   The POS is the one in control.  He had no respect for 707SE and now I guarantee that he even has less.  Look at the facts.  He blew him off for a meeting because he "wasn't in the mood".  He doesn't bother to call to say that he won't be there.  He doesn't call afterwards to apologize.  He tries to avoid 707SE at the recital.  707SE promises to call on Monday morning.  There is only one bitch in this relationship.

707SE, you have no shot of doing business with this guy because he doesn't respect you.  You have to get him to respect you or else you'll be wasting your time. 

When you call him on Monday, if you talk to him, schedule the meeting for your office.  If he wants to meet anywhere else, say, "No.  My time is too valuable and I can't take a chance of being stood up again."   If for any reason, he won't schedule an appointment, do not tell him that you'll call back.  Instead ask him to call your office when he's ready to meet.  Do not meet him outside of your office. 

If he's not there when you call, leave a message.  "This is 707SE.  Please call my office if you are interested in scheduling a meeting."  When he doesn't call you back, do not call again.  If he's an "A" prospect, put him ahead for a year and then call back then.  Otherwise, toss him.

[/quote]

I completely agree anon.  This guy blows him off because he's "not in the mood" and that's an acceptable situation?

I think it's good that you confronted him eye to eye when you ran into him, but bad if you go scurrying after him like a puppy dog.  At least you made it clear to him that you don't like being stood up.

I think anon has the right idea...make him come to you.
Jun 9, 2007 5:10 am

[quote=anonymous]

This cocksucker thinks he owes you, now, and you need to milk it for all it's worth. From this point forward, you need to make him your bitch.

It's too late.  707SE is already his bitch.   The POS is the one in control.  He had no respect for 707SE and now I guarantee that he even has less.  Look at the facts.  He blew him off for a meeting because he "wasn't in the mood".  He doesn't bother to call to say that he won't be there.  He doesn't call afterwards to apologize.  He tries to avoid 707SE at the recital.  707SE promises to call on Monday morning.  There is only one bitch in this relationship.

707SE, you have no shot of doing business with this guy because he doesn't respect you.  You have to get him to respect you or else you'll be wasting your time. 

When you call him on Monday, if you talk to him, schedule the meeting for your office.  If he wants to meet anywhere else, say, "No.  My time is too valuable and I can't take a chance of being stood up again."   If for any reason, he won't schedule an appointment, do not tell him that you'll call back.  Instead ask him to call your office when he's ready to meet.  Do not meet him outside of your office. 

If he's not there when you call, leave a message.  "This is 707SE.  Please call my office if you are interested in scheduling a meeting."  When he doesn't call you back, do not call again.  If he's an "A" prospect, put him ahead for a year and then call back then.  Otherwise, toss him.

[/quote]

Unfortunately, you're right. What I don't quite understand is where he gets the impression that I'm going to put up with it. I'm guessing he's heavily prospected and that garbage worked with other hacks.

who knows. I'm not sure I promised to call him on Monday but I think I catch your drift. Regardless, I'll basically present it to him like you said. Meet on my terms or not at all. No more f'ing around.

As a rookie one of the biggest things that is freaking me out is wasting time. We've all covered how poorly I handled my time this week and I thank you for the verbal thrashing. Going forward I'm tightening up my day. It amazes me the lack of basic courtesy people fail to display. Going forward I won't (can't) let it bother me, but it does amaze me.

Thanks for the direction Anon. I like the direct way you suggest handling this. Fits the situation like a glove.

Jun 9, 2007 5:18 am

Glad to help. 

Jun 9, 2007 5:48 am

[quote=anonymous]

707SE, you have no shot of doing business with
this guy because he doesn’t respect you.  You have to get him to
respect you or else you’ll be wasting your time. 
[/quote]

So much juvenile talk about "respect", what is this? West Side Story? On the Waterfront?

You want an advisory relationship, all this talk of who is and is not a "bitch" should be saved for when you get convicted of securities fraud. In the mean time, its not germane or professional.

This person isn't/hasn't treated you in a serious professional manner, but people slip up for what ever reason. Making the past seem important makes it important. Perhaps this guy has social anxiety disorder and was afraid to leave the house.

Give him a call on monday, set an appointment at your office and thats it. If you get voice mail, leave a message about him calling you back and thats it.

If he doesn't show up, your squared for that outcome, and if he does your ok with that too.

Jun 9, 2007 5:51 am

[quote=707SE]

As a rookie one of the biggest things that is freaking
me out is wasting time. We’ve all covered how poorly I handled my time
this week and I thank you for the verbal thrashing. Going forward I’m
tightening up my day. It amazes me the lack of basic courtesy people
fail to display. Going forward I won’t (can’t) let it bother me, but it
does amaze me.

[/quote]



Just make a list each night of ABCDE tasks for the next day.



A Must do

B Should do

C Could do.

D Delegate to other people

E Stuff not to do.



One step at a time, and being bitter doesn’t help things at all.
Jun 9, 2007 5:53 am

If I haven’t said it yet, thanks all you vets for your criticism and advice. I take it all to heart and use it to refine myself - so keep it coming.

Jun 9, 2007 12:33 pm

[quote=707SE]If I haven't said it yet, thanks all you vets for your criticism and advice. I take it all to heart and use it to refine myself - so keep it coming.[/quote]

I like what anonymous said,too. I you want to feel really good, call him and tell him that you've changed your mind and don't want to work with him. It will give you the energy to prospect even harder for people that want what you have.