Scully, you wanted some advice from some "managment level" people, so I'll give it to you:

Dial it down bro! Your schooling and holier than thou attitude, will get you nowhere. It doesnt matter where you start, what matters is what you do when you get there. And talking sh*t will get you nowhere. Just make sure wherever you go, there is a training program in place that has some structure to it, and a branch manager who is not running 3 branches at once. so you'll get some attention when you are 3 months in and ready to commit suicide.

Stick with the big guys for now, SB ML MS, WS UBS. There are differences between the firms, but for a wet behind the ears kid like you, yes you, its all bullsh*t. Of the 5 names I mentioned, I'd rather you picked the worst firm with the best Management team, than vice versa.

And oh, if and when you do get lucky enough to be given an opportunity to do what we lucky souls do for a livng, make sure you proof read all your letters and emails before you hit send.

Scully, I'll admit some were harsh on you, and perhaps your ego may translate into tenacity and determination if you do decide to become a part of this industry. Others have pointed it out good advice, as crass as it may be. This occupation is about rejection, and sometimes it hurts. Enough of the chicken soup talk--getting down to what you were asking, WS is going to be very difficult for you to get a job at. I'm not discrediting you in anyway or trying to hurt your feelings, but the honest truth is, most banks don't care what school you went to, or how many bars you have worked at. They don't want to hire some newb who needs to learn the ropes. They want someone who has SOME experience, whether that be sales, insurance, another wirehouse, etc. That being said, from what it seems like, you have neither of the above, and with that taken, unless you have the in with a bank, your next best bet is to try for a 1st or 2nd tier wirehouse. From there, use the search button, and research each one. Don't let the naysayers get you down...the facts state that you will fail at these firms, but with the right amount of gusto and determination, anything is possible. Good luck!

[quote=Ferris Bueller]Here’s how the PM to me went:

"Waaaaaaaahwaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa  you're so mean wahhhhhh  WAHHHHHHHHH.  BOooo hooooo, your'e a jerk."

Repeat that several times and add in some spelling/punctuation errors![/quote]

...that's pretty damned funny.  Scully, FWIW, I imagine that most of us have been in your shoes.  I remember coming out of school and going to work for a regional public accounting firm.  I thought I had it all figured out...I had my BS degree with academic honors and I was smarter than any of the old fools in the building.  A week into my employment, a partner asked me to compose a letter to his client, which I did very well, thank you.  Imagine how pissed off I was when I got the letter back and he'd literally scratched out every damned word except "Dear"!!!  I've been learning ever since how little I really know, but I'll guarantee that after 17 years in this industry and the last 8+ as a registered rep, I still know a heck of a lot more than you do.

The point is, you DO write with an attitude and your spelling/punctuation is damned poor.  I don't want to hear that "this is just a forum".  That's a poor excuse to not pactice good grammar, punctuation and spelling.  This isn't Yahoo and most of the most desireable clients in this business are far from illiterate and you don't want them thinking you're a dumbass.  You've gotten some excellent advice here and that along with a dose of humility will help you a great deal.  With some noteable exceptions which you can find by using the search feature on this forum, the firm is mostly irrelevant...find a manager you like and go with it.

...and don't worry...most independents wouldn't touch you at this stage in the game...

[quote=Indyone][quote=Ferris Bueller]Here’s how the PM to me went:

"Waaaaaaaahwaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa  you're so mean wahhhhhh  WAHHHHHHHHH.  BOooo hooooo, your'e a jerk."

Repeat that several times and add in some spelling/punctuation errors![/quote]

...that's pretty damned funny.  Scully, FWIW, I imagine that most of us have been in your shoes.  I remember coming out of school and going to work for a regional public accounting firm.  I thought I had it all figured out...I had my BS degree with academic honors and I was smarter than any of the old fools in the building.  A week into my employment, a partner asked me to compose a letter to his client, which I did very well, thank you.  Imagine how pissed off I was when I got the letter back and he'd literally scratched out every damned word except "Dear"!!!  I've been learning ever since how little I really know, but I'll guarantee that after 17 years in this industry and the last 8+ as a registered rep, I still know a heck of a lot more than you do.

The point is, you DO write with an attitude and your spelling/punctuation is damned poor.  I don't want to hear that "this is just a forum".  That's a poor excuse to not pactice good grammar, punctuation and spelling.  This isn't Yahoo and most of the most desireable clients in this business are far from illiterate and you don't want them thinking you're a dumbass.  You've gotten some excellent advice here and that along with a dose of humility will help you a great deal.  With some noteable exceptions which you can find by using the search feature on this forum, the firm is mostly irrelevant...find a manager you like and go with it.

...and don't worry...most independents wouldn't touch you at this stage in the game...

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Practice what you preach sir. That goes for all members of the grammar/spelling police.

[quote=Indyone][quote=Ferris Bueller]Here’s how the PM to me went:

"Waaaaaaaahwaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa  you're so mean wahhhhhh  WAHHHHHHHHH.  BOooo hooooo, your'e a jerk."

Repeat that several times and add in some spelling/punctuation errors![/quote]

...that's pretty damned funny.  Scully, FWIW, I imagine that most of us have been in your shoes.  I remember coming out of school and going to work for a regional public accounting firm.  I thought I had it all figured out...I had my BS degree with academic honors and I was smarter than any of the old fools in the building.  A week into my employment, a partner asked me to compose a letter to his client, which I did very well, thank you.  Imagine how pissed off I was when I got the letter back and he'd literally scratched out every damned word except "Dear"!!!  I've been learning ever since how little I really know, but I'll guarantee that after 17 years in this industry and the last 8+ as a registered rep, I still know a heck of a lot more than you do.

The point is, you DO write with an attitude and your spelling/punctuation is damned poor.  I don't want to hear that "this is just a forum".  That's a poor excuse to not pactice good grammar, punctuation and spelling.  This isn't Yahoo and most of the most desireable clients in this business are far from illiterate and you don't want them thinking you're a dumbass.  You've gotten some excellent advice here and that along with a dose of humility will help you a great deal.  With some noteable exceptions which you can find by using the search feature on this forum, the firm is mostly irrelevant...find a manager you like and go with it.

...and don't worry...most independents wouldn't touch you at this stage in the game...

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Reminds me of how I got out of college with both Masters and Bachelors Degrees in Accounting, starting at Arthur Andersen. They had me footing columns of numbers down and across. Very glamorous.

With all due respect, you're really stretching here.  I missed an 'r' in one word...a simple typo, and I'll challenge you to tell me what's wrong with my second "transgression".  It may not be a thing of beauty, but I don't see the grammatical error here.  If you're an english major, please enlighten me.

My transgressions are far from what I saw out of scully and I'm pretty tired of illiterates coming here thinking they can get rich quick when they obviously slept through grammar school.  I think we should respect each other enough to construct coherent sentences.  This is supposed to be a "professional" forum, yet some of us write like 3rd graders.  I'm starting to think that command of the English language is a dying art.

...and you can climb off your high horse now, cowboy.

I'm pretty tired of illiterates coming here thinking they can get rich quick when they obviously slept through grammar school.  I think we should respect each other enough to construct coherent sentences.  This is supposed to be a "professional" forum, yet some of us write like 3rd graders.  I'm starting to think that command of the English language is a dying art.

You're correct.  The schools haven't taught reading skills, English composition, grammar, punctuation or much of anything else in the last 20 years or longer.  So, poor Scully is probably at genius level English skills considering the crappy education he received. 

It's pitiful. We have fuzzy math and holistic reading that leave these young kids thinking they know it all, when they know next to nothing.   We give them high self esteem and pats on the back and then turn them out into the world with the functional skills of an eight grader (at least when I was in school in the way back olden days )

And here's a tip for y'all.......Google toolbar spell check

gaaaahhhh!!     eighth grader