bond guy i generally appreciate your insights. i  also am very proud of where i am from having said that, this jersey thread is bordering on obsessive.

Who saw the (2) best friends from Jersey on American Idol last night?

Blarn-  They were in your target market.

[quote=skolbrother]bond guy i generally appreciate your insights. i  also am very proud of where i am from having said that, this jersey thread is bordering on obsessive.[/quote]

Yup, it's a great state that gets punched around a lot let's face it, there has to be a reason so many people live here. It sure isn't the mountain views.

I don't mind someone who has lived here sounding off. They're entitled. It's the yahoos that get there information from Jay Leno calling the state dirty that put it over the edge.

This started out with me making some factual comments about some of the Beaches we've visited. No bullsh*t, fact. As soon as i mention Jersey the insults start.

I own more property in Florida than I do in NJ, but I'm not a huge fan of that state. Not that it's a bad place. Yet, no one jumping up and down saying that it is a dirty place to live.

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[quote=skolbrother]bond guy i generally appreciate your insights. i  also am very proud of where i am from having said that, this jersey thread is bordering on obsessive.[/quote]

Yup, it's a great state that gets punched around a lot let's face it, there has to be a reason so many people live here. It sure isn't the mountain views.

I don't mind someone who has lived here sounding off. They're entitled. It's the yahoos that get there information from Jay Leno calling the state dirty that put it over the edge.

This started out with me making some factual comments about some of the Beaches we've visited. No bullsh*t, fact. As soon as i mention Jersey the insults start.

I own more property in Florida than I do in NJ, but I'm not a huge fan of that state. Not that it's a bad place. Yet, no one jumping up and down saying that it is a dirty place to live.

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Make that "their information"

BG...know why Jersey has all the toxic waste dumps and California has all the attorneys?

Jersey got to choose first.

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding...now don't go "nucular" on me!!!)

BG please tell which beach in “Clean Jersey” is better than Zuma in Malibu or any beach in Del Mar, that’s near San Diego in case you didn’t know. 

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BG…know why Jersey has all the toxic waste dumps and California has all the attorneys?

Jersey got to choose first.

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding...now don't go "nucular" on me!!!)

lets agree, jersey rocks. and pray to the chat room thread gods that we all agree our own geography kicks ass and stereotypes of any region are somewhat ridiculous.

Who saw the (2) best friends from Jersey on American Idol last night?

Blarn-  They were in your target market.

I didnt see it. What were they all about?

TGIF! I leave early on Fridays and go skiing or snow shoeing!

To each his own enjoy your beaches but I will take the mountains!  

Have a great week end

I'll second that...TGIF!

Off to the beach for me this weekend...nothing beats a beach in late January. 

[quote=DodgerDraftpick]BG please tell which beach in "Clean Jersey" is better than Zuma in Malibu or any beach in Del Mar, that's near San Diego in case you didn't know.  [/quote]

Do you want me to name beaches where the houses aren't falling off cliffs in mudslides or the beaches where wildfires aren't wiping everything out? See how easy it is to take a cheap shot?

I think you missed my point. I'll give you that SOCal has some beautiful beaches. As does NoCal, Oregon, Michigan, among others. But so does New Jersey. Point being if you'd ever been here you'd know that.

[quote=Indyone]

BG...know why Jersey has all the toxic waste dumps and California has all the attorneys?

Jersey got to choose first.

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding...now don't go "nucular" on me!!!)

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An olde but a goode.

Like most Jersey guys I take much of our punching bag status in stride. The cheap shots do get old after awhile. The problem is many people are uninformed to the point that they actually believe the jokes.

I was on a kayaking board. One of the members of this international forum mentioned the good sea kayaking along the Jersey Shore. Well, predictibly the insults started. One guy in particular was really ripping NJ a new one. Really nasty stuff about having to be crazy to go anywhere near the water in Jersey. I searched his postings to find out more about him. He lives in Indiana. His postings tell stories about how he has a hard time getting the green slime and crud off his boats when he's done kayaking in his area and seeks advice on how best to clean his boats without damaging them. He also says that he and his club won't swim in the water they paddle in. Yet, he won't come paddle in water that save for Giardia(found everywhere), you could drink from the river. So yeah, it gets old when people who boat in sludge believe they've got one up on Jersey. This poster doesn't see the irony of his posts.

As a side note, Even though I've never seen more of Indiana than what you can see from I 80, I'm sure it's not a bad place.

That one was told to me by a local attorney and I couldn’t help but be amused.  I’ll agree that just about any locale has it’s bright spots and it’s warts…and all things considerd, I’m happy to live in fly-over country/tornado alley…

[quote=BondGuy][quote=Indyone]

BG...know why Jersey has all the toxic waste dumps and California has all the attorneys?

Jersey got to choose first.

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding...now don't go "nucular" on me!!!)

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An olde but a goode.

Like most Jersey guys I take much of our punching bag status in stride. The cheap shots do get old after awhile. The problem is many people are uninformed to the point that they actually believe the jokes.

I was on a kayaking board. One of the members of this international forum mentioned the good sea kayaking along the Jersey Shore. Well, predictibly the insults started. One guy in particular was really ripping NJ a new one. Really nasty stuff about having to be crazy to go anywhere near the water in Jersey. I searched his postings to find out more about him. He lives in Indiana. His postings tell stories about how he has a hard time getting the green slime and crud off his boats when he's done kayaking in his area and seeks advice on how best to clean his boats without damaging them. He also says that he and his club won't swim in the water they paddle in. Yet, he won't come paddle in water that save for Giardia(found everywhere), you could drink from the river. So yeah, it gets old when people who boat in sludge believe they've got one up on Jersey. This poster doesn't see the irony of his posts.

As a side note, Even though I've never seen more of Indiana than what you can see from I 80, I'm sure it's not a bad place.

[quote=joedabrkr] [quote=BondGuy][quote=Indyone]

BG...know why Jersey has all the toxic waste dumps and California has all the attorneys?

Jersey got to choose first.

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding...now don't go "nucular" on me!!!)

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An olde but a goode.

Like most Jersey guys I take much of our punching bag status in stride. The cheap shots do get old after awhile. The problem is many people are uninformed to the point that they actually believe the jokes.

I was on a kayaking board. One of the members of this international forum mentioned the good sea kayaking along the Jersey Shore. Well, predictibly the insults started. One guy in particular was really ripping NJ a new one. Really nasty stuff about having to be crazy to go anywhere near the water in Jersey. I searched his postings to find out more about him. He lives in Indiana. His postings tell stories about how he has a hard time getting the green slime and crud off his boats when he's done kayaking in his area and seeks advice on how best to clean his boats without damaging them. He also says that he and his club won't swim in the water they paddle in. Yet, he won't come paddle in water that save for Giardia(found everywhere), you could drink from the river. So yeah, it gets old when people who boat in sludge believe they've got one up on Jersey. This poster doesn't see the irony of his posts.

As a side note, Even though I've never seen more of Indiana than what you can see from I 80, I'm sure it's not a bad place.

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Hey BG your inbox is full...

Thanks, more space now.
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BG you seem to think that houses falling off cliffs happens everyday.  I can assure that you that it is actually a rare occurence despite what you might think out in “Dirty Jersey”.  As for have I been to Jersey, yes I have.  Several times in fact when I was in the Navy and stationed in Rhode Island.  I am sure there are nice places to live in Jersey.  I have never seen one, and am sure a random poll on this fourm, will show an overwhelming majority would want to live in San Diego, Newport Beach, or Pacific Palisades way more than any town in Jersey.  So let’s see what people say Jersey or SoCal make your choice!

Well.... My parents have a beach house on the beach in Jersey, in a great area about halfway along the Shore. I live in SoCal, so I also have a frame of reference for this lifestyle and beach variety as well.

While they are different, they both have appeal in their own right... This chest bumping about "whose beach is te best" is getting old.

I, for one, am over it....

[quote=DodgerDraftpick]BG you seem to think that houses falling off cliffs happens everyday.  I can assure that you that it is actually a rare occurence despite what you might think out in "Dirty Jersey".  As for have I been to Jersey, yes I have.  Several times in fact when I was in the Navy and stationed in Rhode Island.  I am sure there are nice places to live in Jersey.  I have never seen one, and am sure a random poll on this fourm, will show an overwhelming majority would want to live in San Diego, Newport Beach, or Pacific Palisades way more than any town in Jersey.  So let's see what people say Jersey or SoCal make your choice![/quote]

I apologize to blarmston up front.

Let's see, seven of the ten most air polluted cities are in California. That's the first seven out of the top ten! LA, Long Beach, Riverside, Visalia, Porterville, Bakersfield, Fresno, and Madera. The worst any other place ranks is 8th. And you're calling us dirty?

Moving on, lets talk about education. California without a doubt has some beautiful places. However, when it comes to educating your children not so pretty. 2006 rank, 47th. And in case you are a product of that system, there are only 50 states. I thought Florida schools sucked. Turns out, as bad as they are, they're ranked 29th. Which begs the question: How bad do you have to be to be 47th? By the way, NJ 4th.

Here's another quality of life issue, traffic congestion. California cities hold the top five places, LA, Long Bch, Santa Ana, SF, and Oakland. Does it really take five hours each way to get to and from the office?

And there's this: You elected a second rate actor, former body builder as Governor not once, but twice. Even the the people in Minnesota are are asking "Who are the assholes now?"

No doubt SOCal would win in a pol of places to live. But for those people who actually make that chioce to live there it would be a mistake if the health, education ,and quality of life issues raised are important to them. As for the rest of us, we can always visit and not have to live with the day to day problems. We're planning to vaca in wine country in the next year or two. Got to do the San Juans first.

As for your experience in NJ, the better bars are in South Jersey. Try those next time.

[quote=BondGuy]

Let's see, seven of the ten most air polluted cities are in California. That's the first seven out of the top ten! LA, Long Beach, Riverside, Visalia, Porterville, Bakersfield, Fresno, and Madera. The worst any other place ranks is 8th. And you're calling us dirty?

Moving on, lets talk about education. California without a doubt has some beautiful places. However, when it comes to educating your children not so pretty. 2006 rank, 47th. And in case you are a product of that system, there are only 50 states. I thought Florida schools sucked. Turns out, as bad as they are, they're ranked 29th. Which begs the question: How bad do you have to be to be 47th? By the way, NJ 4th.

Here's another quality of life issue, traffic congestion. California cities hold the top five places, LA, Long Bch, Santa Ana, SF, and Oakland. Does it really take five hours each way to get to and from the office?

And there's this: You elected a second rate actor, former body builder as Governor not once, but twice. Even the the people in Minnesota are are asking "Who are the assholes now?"

No doubt SOCal would win in a pol of places to live. But for those people who actually make that chioce to live there it would be a mistake if the health, education ,and quality of life issues raised are important to them. As for the rest of us, we can always visit and not have to live with the day to day problems. We're planning to vaca in wine country in the next year or two. Got to do the San Juans first.

As for your experience in NJ, the better bars are in South Jersey. Try those next time.