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May 27, 2008 5:56 pm

has quit and is now in seminary training to be a minister.    

 
See what too much koolaid can do.  Be careful Jones guys or you too might see the light.
May 27, 2008 7:39 pm

Even Darth Vader eventually left the dark side!

May 27, 2008 9:06 pm

probably  living off his LP and now he’ll get eternal salvation, lucky fucker. 

May 27, 2008 9:25 pm

Mine took his life. (No Joke)

May 27, 2008 11:12 pm

[quote=noggin]Mine took his life. (No Joke)[/quote]

Really?  For business or personal reasons?

May 28, 2008 11:14 am
noggin:

Mine took his life. (No Joke)

  Another guy that gives our industry a bad name.  It amazes me that those situations take so long to uncover.
May 28, 2008 11:34 am

Babs - I tell my clients that I believe there are three things that they value most in this life.  In no specific order:  Their health - I wasn’t called to be their doctor.  I get queasy at the thought of some of the things my sister does day in and day out (she’s a family practice/OB doc).  Their family - I wasn’t called to be your preacher or priest.  While I believe what I believe, I wasn’t called by God to stand up on Sunday and tell you what you should believe.   Their money - this is my calling in life.  

  I guess your former RL just decided to make one thing more important than the other.  Congrats to him.   
May 28, 2008 5:53 pm

Unless he has had a personality transplant, I can’t even imagine him in this role.  Like John Ghotti decided to become a monk or Brittany Spears a nun.  Too weird.

May 29, 2008 9:20 pm
Broker24:

[quote=noggin]Mine took his life. (No Joke)

  Another guy that gives our industry a bad name.  It amazes me that those situations take so long to uncover.[/quote] Try 20 years.....
May 30, 2008 10:23 am

No kidding. It’s ridiculous. I just read how some FP in Tempe, AZ was stealing millions from his church and the parishoners for more than 10 years, both as a trusted fundraiser (collecting donations) and as a trusted advisor. How these things go on for so long without being uncovered is beyond me.

May 30, 2008 3:40 pm

Probably by using a P/L like the one Jones uses…just  a thought off the top of my head.

Jun 2, 2008 9:26 am

That doesn’t answer the question.  The P&L has nothing to do with stealing from clients.

Jun 2, 2008 4:47 pm

If you put 100 people in a room–they might even be 100 pastors, FA’s, law enforcement officers, or military officers and you could ask each one 25 questions and it was impossible to lie–you would probably never let your kids out alone or trust anyone again.  Human nature provides us will all kinds of people–but the vast (majority) number of them are good, honest, and hard working people who just trying to make it.

  I have served in the military in battle conditions and gotten drunk with guys who you think would never consider going into ministry--but they did!  Not me--I'm the type of guy who keeps them in business even in my 50's.
Jun 2, 2008 9:39 pm

The real question is how much due diligence does Jones do on a prospective GP?

Jun 3, 2008 10:24 am

I'm not sure I understand where you are going with that statement. 

There are three ways to become a GP at Jones.  First, you can get hired in as one.  They'll hire people as GPs in areas like IS or HR from time to time.  Second, you can work your butt off as a HQ employee and get your shot.  I know lots of people like that.  It's a lot of politics, but it works.  Third you can get there from the field either as an RL who becomes a GP or they can pull  you into HQ to run a department.    The only scenario where you can be a GP and still have contact with client money is as an RL/GP.  And you know how much they try to scrutinize everything that happens in our offices.  But, even then there are going to be some people who do figure out a way to get around the systems.  It happens.  Not just at Jones. 
Jun 10, 2008 6:49 pm

[quote=Spaceman Spiff]Babs - I tell my clients that I believe there are three things that they value most in this life.  In no specific order:  Their health - I wasn’t called to be their doctor.  I get queasy at the thought of some of the things my sister does day in and day out (she’s a family practice/OB doc).  Their family - I wasn’t called to be your preacher or priest.  While I believe what I believe, I wasn’t called by God to stand up on Sunday and tell you what you should believe.   Their money - this is my calling in life.  

  I guess your former RL just decided to make one thing more important than the other.  Congrats to him.    [/quote]   I had no idea spiff was one of them  Pentecostals.
Jun 10, 2008 7:39 pm

Baptist to be exact.