Don't Drop Florescent Light Bulbs!

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May 4, 2007 7:30 pm

As heard on Rush Limbaugh's program today:


A woman dropped one of those energy saving florescent light bulbs and it broke. Knowing such bulbs contain mercury, she called 3 or 4 government agencies before finally receiving instructions to call a privately-owned environmental clean-up service.


The service arrived, measured the mercury level of the floor and determined it to be 6-times the safe level for mercury contamination. It was going to cost $2,000 to clean-up the area. Because the mercury is powdered, it requires specialized equipment to clean up. A simple vacuum cleaner would only spray the mercury into the air.


Give me incandescent bulbs any day!!!!

May 4, 2007 7:41 pm

Or she could have opened a window! Aired the room out. Even if the Mercury spread around the house, assuming the house is more than six times as large as the girl's bedroom, the toxicity level would have dropped to "safe".


You heard it on Limbaugh, who heard it on FoxNews?


Two sources I wouldn't live my life by.


About a woman in Ellsworth Maine? Strike three!

May 5, 2007 4:33 pm

Fine, you use these mercury-filled bulbs. I'm sticking with the incandescents.


As far as listening to Rush (also Glenn Beck, by the way), I do rely on them for information, the kind our media fails to provide.


May 5, 2007 5:20 pm
doberman:

Fine, you use these mercury-filled bulbs. I'm sticking with the incandescents.



As far as listening to Rush (also Glenn Beck, by the way), I do rely on them for information, the kind our media fails to provide.







So, you rely on Rush & Glenn Beck for stretched and false information?

May 5, 2007 6:10 pm
Ashland:

[quote=doberman]

Fine, you use these mercury-

filled bulbs. I'm sticking with the incandescents.



As far as listening to Rush (also Glenn Beck, by the way), I do rely on them

for information, the kind our media fails to provide.







So, you rely on Rush & Glenn Beck for stretched and false information?[/

QUOTE]



Where do you get your stretched and false information, Ashland?

May 5, 2007 6:26 pm

Doberman, you should have known that your post would turn into a discussion on Rush and the "Alternative Media." 


Personally, I listen to a.m. talk radio as well as NPR.  We don't have Air America broadcast, but I don't think I could stomach Al Frankin.  My personal favorite is Dave Ramsey.  I really enjoy listening to him rail on the idiots that call into his program


May 5, 2007 10:15 pm

I can't listen to Rush, Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, or Air America. Just too much bs. I like NPR, Bloomberg, C-SPAN & read the NYTimes and the Economist.



So, I say that to show that I get news from various sources - none of them out of the mainstream.



A couple of examples of stretched or scorched truth:



Terry Schiavo:    

"It is plain as day what happened here. The United States government ordered the starvation of an innocent citizen who was not dying. ... Having now gotten their wish in having Terri Schiavo put to death by court order..."



Put to death by court order. No stretch there???



Another: Global Warming - 2/2/07

I believe in the God of Creation. I'm not going to proselytize here, don't misunderstand. But I'm saying as a believer of a loving God and a God of Creation, that there is a complexity to all this that makes it work; that we cannot understand; that we cannot really control; that we cannot destroy, and that we really can't alter in its massive complexity.



That sound like opinion to me... Didn't realize that Rush is a scientist. Thought he was a talk-show host???



In response to Abu Ghraib:

"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You heard of need to blow some steam off?"



Incidents at Abu Ghraib was blowing off some steam?



Enough said?

May 6, 2007 2:32 am
Ashland:

I can't listen to Rush, Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, or Air
America. Just too much bs. I like NPR, Bloomberg, C-SPAN & read
the NYTimes and the Economist.





These days I wish the entire mass media complex would die under a sheet of burning plastic.



I do like C-Span and the Economist though. What ever happened to media for people who are educated and think?

May 6, 2007 8:24 am
AllREIT:
Ashland:

I can't listen to Rush, Glenn Beck, Lou

Dobbs, or Air

America. Just too much bs. I like NPR, Bloomberg, C-SPAN & read

the NYTimes and the Economist.




These days I wish the entire mass media complex would die under a sheet

of burning plastic.



I do like C-Span and the Economist though. What ever happened to media

for people who are educated and think?





Media for people who can think???? My god, what a concept!



Actually, I think it went the way of the dodo, if in fact it ever really

existed. I know what you mean, though. We now have second tier night

club comics with talk shows trying to come off as erudite critics of the

human condition telling us how we should feel and react to the news as

THEY see it, given their superior vantage point of the universe. And the

truth is, Rush is just as bad.

May 6, 2007 3:47 pm

There's a big difference between Rush/Beck and the general media. Rush/Beck present facts and give their opinion (everyone knows that upfront). However, the general media takes facts and mixes it thoroughly with their opinion and then, presents it as fact.


I used to listen to NPR, until Rush/Beck started filling in the holes that NPR glossed over. The New York Times? Are you kidding me? They should rename it The Al Qeda Times!

May 7, 2007 9:42 am

For anyone interested, here's the source of the story. It was picked up by "Junk Science" and then the wire services...



http://ellsworthmaine.com/site/content/view/7446/31/

May 7, 2007 9:57 pm

I thought Rush was an oxycontin junkie?


This probably won't go over well, but it made me laugh... since we're talking about media spin and all.  I don't mean any harm.


May 8, 2007 8:01 pm

Bill Clinton is to blame for 9-11.


You don't deter terrorists with indictments and strongly worded warnings from the UN. You destroy them with cruise missles, period.

May 10, 2007 10:44 am

The woman at the center of this story appeared on CNBC this morning.....

May 10, 2007 11:04 am

I just don't get all this hoopla over mercury. Growing up my dad always had Mercury Station Wagons and we're all just fine. And my kids are just fine too. They've got all their fingers, six one one hand and four on the other. Geez!

May 10, 2007 11:22 am

Good one


My mom said that when she was in science classes in high school, they would break their mercury thermometers and roll the beads of mercury around on their desks with their bare hands.


Granted, over a lifetime this is probably not a good daily habit...but people make way too big of a deal over everything these days. Look at how well Clorox is doing with their "disinfect everything you might possibly touch" campaign and now every kid has allergies to almost everything.

May 10, 2007 11:38 am
kap39:

Good one


My mom said that when she was in science classes in high school, they would break their mercury thermometers and roll the beads of mercury around on their desks with their bare hands.



I remember doing the same thing, AND we owned Mercury cars when I was a kid AND I eat a lot of fish.



The good side is I can tell the temp in a room just by my height increasing or decreasing. 

May 10, 2007 12:30 pm
doberman:

Fine, you use these mercury-filled bulbs. I'm sticking with the incandescents.


As far as listening to Rush (also Glenn Beck, by the way), I do rely on them for information, the kind our media fails to provide.




At least you have a choice. In my State they are banning incandescent bulbs.  I plan to scoff at the law and stockpile incandescent bulbs.   The dim bulbs who make this legislation have no grip on how people outside of their insulated urban bubbles live.


The reason that florescent bulbs are a bad idea for rural residents and pretty much any one else:


1. Light quality sucks.  They flicker and give me a headache and the colors are nauseating.


2. They don't turn on in cold weather.  Lights that are outside or in unheated garages will not turn on when the temperature is below 35 degrees.  In the winter that is often the high temperature with lows in the single digits.    


3. They are slow to turn on in moderately cold weather.  By the time I could get the light to turn on I don't need it anymore.


4. Incandescent bulbs give off heat and fluorescent bulbs don't.  This seems contradictory, but many people in my area use an incandescent bulb to keep their pump houses from freezing at the well head in the coldest part of the winter or to keep the pipes in uninsulated garages from breaking.  Leaving a 75 watt bulb burning at ground level in a small pump house is just enough to keep the room slightly above freezing.  When we ban the bulbs people will have to turn to pump house heaters which will use much more electricity.


5. The manufacturing process of florescent bulbs is more energy costly than incandescents. And the disposal of the bulbs is a serious problem.  Even with the overhyped mercury scare they need to be disposed of in a hazardous waste capable dump site.  There is not anything like that within 200 square miles of where I live. I imagine many people who live in rural America are in the same boat.  If forced to use fluorescents, guess where my dead bulbs are going to go.  Right in the regular trash along with millions of other bulbs containing mercury.  This will add up.


6. The main reason I won't use fluorescents is.....you can't make me.  What are they going to do.  Set up the "Bulb Police" to drive around in 4x4 SUVs to check up on my bedside reading lamp.  There's a good use of energy.


I actually do use florescent bulbs in some locations (kitchen, workshop, closet) but the idea that banning all incandescents is going to make some big change in the environment is stupid.  Of course we need to look at the source of this stupidity.  Politicians and eco nazis who both have their heads firmly planted where the light doesn't shine.

May 10, 2007 8:10 pm

In response to Dust Bunny: OOOOOOOOHHHHH YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHH!


If you listen to Glenn Beck, you get it.....