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May 20, 2005 3:25 am

So if Jones would drop the percentage of “preferred” vendors’ production to say 50% of total mfd sales, I’m sure the trips would continue. Granted, a lot of players in the industry are doing a lot of American Funds, but if you take the others, is it always in the best interest of the client to put them there? Oh, by the way, according to regulatory disclosure, 97% of fund sales were in these “preferred” funds.



Are they preferred by the clients, or by Jones? There are some other great fund families out there. Here are Jones criteria:



1) Pays revenue sharing.

2) Helps pay for diversifications trips.

3) Helps pay for regional meetings.

4) Has good performance, except for Federated, Putnam, Goldman Sachs, Van Kampen (growth funds), oh, but wait, that’s 4 out of 7 with poor performance.

5) Have good name recognition, except for Putnam, which has the name recognition of ValuJet.

6) Pays revenue sharing.

7) And oh yeah, did I mention pays revenue sharing.



Granted, a lot of fund families pay revenue sharing to a lot of firms, but the only “preferred” fund at Jones are the only ones that happen to pay revenue sharing to Jones? Hmmmmm…

5)

May 20, 2005 4:27 am

Bubba,

Answer BPD's qestion on why Jones came out with an A Share VA?

May 20, 2005 12:32 pm

bpd,

real witty responses, undoubtly your looking to become a gp?

May 20, 2005 8:16 pm

[quote=AnotherView]

Bubba,

Answer BPD's qestion on why Jones came out with an A Share VA?

[/quote]

I'm still at a loss as to why some say that's a bad thing...

May 21, 2005 4:41 am

Exactly, then why is EJ the only firm that sells the “A” share VA?

May 21, 2005 12:26 pm

Jones is not the only firm that can sell A share annuities.  Most firms choose not to, as it puts the client at an immediate disadvantage.   Why do you persist in that lie?

May 21, 2005 10:44 pm

For what it is worth, I find that most clients are satisfied with their broker, not necessarily the company they are with.  In relationships we “sell” ourselves not the company we work for.  The name on the statement in many cases is secondary.  Just think how many times you’ve reviewed a competitors statement that had very poor results, but the prospect insists that Joe Blow broker is looking out for them.

May 21, 2005 11:02 pm
Phlyin' Phule:

Jones is not the only firm that can sell A share annuities. Most firms choose not to, as it puts the client at an immediate disadvantage. Why do you persist in that lie?



What other firm sells "A" share VAs?

Have YOU ever sold one?

What is the ".....immediate disadvantage"?

BPD
May 22, 2005 12:52 am

bpd,

who gives a rats behind about VAs let alone "A" shares?

May 22, 2005 6:15 am
BigPayDay:

[quote=Phlyin’ Phule] Jones is not the only firm that can sell A share annuities. Most firms choose not to, as it puts the client at an immediate disadvantage. Why do you persist in that lie?



What other firm sells "A" share VAs?

Have YOU ever sold one?

What is the ".....immediate disadvantage"?

BPD[/quote]

Fool,

Still would like to hear your answer to the above.

BPD
May 23, 2005 1:12 am

Do your own research, phlegmwad.

Your ignorance is getting tiresome.  Doesn't it bother you?

May 24, 2005 2:24 am

I didn’t say that with “A” Share VAs the client starts out at an “imediate disadvantage”. YOU did. I was asking what you mean when you say this. If you mean the clients starts out with less than they invested because they paid an up front fee. Of course they have a much lower internal ongoing fee. If you are buying an annuity usually you’re buying it for the long term where lower fees can really make a difference. I suppose you only sell “B” share mutual funds, because with those “A” share mutual funds the client starts out an “imediate disadvantage”.



Whose ignorance is getting tiresome?



BPD



May 24, 2005 2:45 am

Yours is.

Why?

May 25, 2005 3:40 am

[quote=Phlyin' Phule]

 Most firms choose not to, as it puts the client at an immediate disadvantage.  

[/quote]

If paying an up front commission puts clients at an immediate disadvantage, I have two questions:

1.  When you are selling mutual funds, at what break point do you put a client in the A share - $100k, $250k, $500k?

2.  When selling annuities, why not sell "bonus" annuities exclusively?

Inquiring minds want to know.

May 25, 2005 4:00 am

HEY CLONES AND DRONES........Your Number one rated Firm has still not told your clients the "TRUTH" , about their "FINES".......

But after all your CLIENTS don't or can't read the WSJ, according to Bill 3 Mil Hill, soon to be X-MGP at the FIRM, WOW does that fit............

I am amazed some one from Edward Jones would brag about this JD POWER AWARD..........WHAT A JOKE TO THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY.....BUT WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT JD POWER & ASSOC   When they did the survey did they ask?

Are you aware about the FINES levied on Edward Jones for not Disclosing all of their fees they charged to you their loyal client ?

I WONDER WHAT THE RATING WOULD BE THEN ?     0

May 26, 2005 3:12 am

Player,



So are you saying your firm does not do revenue sharing?



BPD

May 26, 2005 3:31 am

[quote=jonesnewbie]

[quote=Phlyin' Phule]

 Most firms choose not to, as it puts the client at an immediate disadvantage.  

[/quote]

If paying an up front commission puts clients at an immediate disadvantage, I have two questions:

1.  When you are selling mutual funds, at what break point do you put a client in the A share - $100k, $250k, $500k?

2.  When selling annuities, why not sell "bonus" annuities exclusively?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[/quote]

Newbie, I sell VERY little by way of mutual funds, and the lions' share of what I do sell is in A shares.  As to VAs, I feel that actuaries are nothing more than bookies that pay taxes.  Therefore, any bells and whistles (such as "bonus products") that are added to the basic chassis are there solely to add to the expenses of the product.   Which is just a long way of saying that I use VAs sparingly,  but effectively.  There MUST be a specific need or problem to be addressed by a specific feature of the BASIC annuity, and that is the deciding factor in choosing the appropriate contract, not the commission payout.

That's just my opinion, of course, but it's how I run my business.

I hope that answers your questions!

May 26, 2005 3:59 am

Fool,



So you don’t sell much mutual funds ("…I sell VERY little by way of mutual funds…") or VAs("…I use VAs sparingly…)



What do you sell?



Inquiring minds want to know.



BPD

May 26, 2005 12:54 pm

[quote=BigPayDay]

So you don't sell much mutual funds ("....I sell VERY little by way of mutual funds...") or VAs("....I use VAs sparingly....)

What do you sell?

[/quote]

Is your experience really so narrow that you think if one doesn't sell annuities and/or mutual funds one can't possibly be in the securities industry?  My God!  You're even dumber than I previously thought!

(Forgive me for laughing at you, but I just have this mental image of you sitting there at your computer in your bathrobe eating cheese-its with a dazed and confused look on your face.)

May 27, 2005 3:21 am

PP,

So what's your product mix?

BPD