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Dec 24, 2009 12:22 pm

It's xmas.    Im feeling compassionate.



I'm getting very worried about you shorts out there



and all that .0355362625141% cash.



please cover now.



The next move up will be VERY painful.    



please just drop your pride and reverse long.



Im being nice.    



dont say I did'nt warn you.



Dec 24, 2009 2:28 pm

Yeeee haawww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! up up and away!! Let's keep it up. Life is getting easier every day!

Dec 26, 2009 9:23 pm

S and P     500

Date     Adj Close

12/1/2009     1126.48

11/2/2009     1095.63

10/1/2009     1036.19

9/1/2009     1057.08

8/3/2009     1020.62

7/1/2009     987.48

6/1/2009     919.32

5/1/2009     919.14

4/1/2009     872.81

3/2/2009     797.87

2/2/2009     735.09

1/2/2009     825.88

12/1/2008     903.25

11/3/2008     896.24

10/1/2008     968.75

9/2/2008     1166.36

8/1/2008     1282.83

7/1/2008     1267.38

6/2/2008     1280

5/1/2008     1400.38

4/1/2008     1385.59

3/3/2008     1322.7

2/1/2008     1330.63

1/2/2008     1378.55

12/3/2007     1468.36

11/1/2007     1481.14

10/1/2007     1549.38

9/4/2007     1526.75

8/1/2007     1473.99

7/2/2007     1455.27

6/1/2007     1503.35

5/1/2007     1530.62

4/2/2007     1482.37

3/1/2007     1420.86

2/1/2007     1406.82

1/3/2007     1438.24

12/1/2006     1418.3

11/1/2006     1400.63

10/2/2006     1377.94

9/1/2006     1335.85

8/1/2006     1303.82

7/3/2006     1276.66

6/1/2006     1270.2

5/1/2006     1270.09

4/3/2006     1310.61

3/1/2006     1294.87

2/1/2006     1280.66

1/3/2006     1280.08

12/1/2005     1248.29

11/1/2005     1249.48

10/3/2005     1207.01

9/1/2005     1228.81

8/1/2005     1220.33

7/1/2005     1234.18

6/1/2005     1191.33

5/2/2005     1191.5

4/1/2005     1156.85

3/1/2005     1180.59

2/1/2005     1203.6

1/3/2005     1181.27

12/1/2004     1211.92

11/1/2004     1173.82

10/1/2004     1130.2

9/1/2004     1114.58

8/2/2004     1104.24

7/1/2004     1101.72

6/1/2004     1140.84

5/3/2004     1120.68

4/1/2004     1107.3

3/1/2004     1126.21

2/2/2004     1144.94

1/2/2004     1131.13

12/1/2003     1111.92

11/3/2003     1058.2

10/1/2003     1050.71

9/2/2003     995.97

8/1/2003     1008.01

7/1/2003     990.31

6/2/2003     974.5

5/1/2003     963.59

4/1/2003     916.92

3/3/2003     848.18

2/3/2003     841.15

1/2/2003     855.7

12/2/2002     879.82

11/1/2002     936.31

10/1/2002     885.76

9/3/2002     815.28

8/1/2002     916.07

7/1/2002     911.62

6/3/2002     989.82

5/1/2002     1067.14

4/1/2002     1076.92

3/1/2002     1147.39

2/1/2002     1106.73

1/2/2002     1130.2

12/3/2001     1148.08

11/1/2001     1139.45

10/1/2001     1059.78

9/4/2001     1040.94

8/1/2001     1133.58

7/2/2001     1211.23

6/1/2001     1224.38

5/1/2001     1255.82

4/2/2001     1249.46

3/1/2001     1160.33

2/1/2001     1239.94

1/2/2001     1366.01

12/1/2000     1320.28

11/1/2000     1314.95

10/2/2000     1429.4

9/1/2000     1436.51

8/1/2000     1517.68

7/3/2000     1430.83

6/1/2000     1454.6

5/1/2000     1420.6

4/3/2000     1452.43

3/1/2000     1498.58

2/1/2000     1366.42

1/3/2000     1394.46

12/1/1999     1469.25

11/1/1999     1388.91

10/1/1999     1362.93

9/1/1999     1282.71

8/2/1999     1320.41

7/1/1999     1328.72

6/1/1999     1372.71

5/3/1999     1301.84

4/1/1999     1335.18

3/1/1999     1286.37

2/1/1999     1238.33

1/4/1999     1279.64

12/1/1998     1229.23

11/2/1998     1163.63

10/1/1998     1098.67

9/1/1998     1017.01

8/3/1998     957.28

7/1/1998     1120.67

6/1/1998     1133.84

5/1/1998     1090.82

4/1/1998     1111.75

3/2/1998     1101.75

2/2/1998     1049.34

1/2/1998     980.28

12/1/1997     970.43

11/3/1997     955.4

10/1/1997     914.62

9/2/1997     947.28

8/1/1997     899.47

7/1/1997     954.31

6/2/1997     885.14

5/1/1997     848.28

4/1/1997     801.34

3/3/1997     757.12

2/3/1997     790.82

1/2/1997     786.16

12/2/1996     740.74

11/1/1996     757.02

10/1/1996     705.27

9/3/1996     687.33

8/1/1996     651.99

7/1/1996     639.95

6/3/1996     670.63

5/1/1996     669.12

4/1/1996     654.17

3/1/1996     645.5

2/1/1996     640.43

1/2/1996     636.02

12/1/1995     615.93

11/1/1995     605.37

10/2/1995     581.5

9/1/1995     584.41

8/1/1995     561.88

7/3/1995     562.06

6/1/1995     544.75

5/1/1995     533.4

4/3/1995     514.71

3/1/1995     500.71

2/1/1995     487.39

1/3/1995     470.42

12/1/1994     459.27

11/1/1994     453.69

10/3/1994     472.35

9/1/1994     462.71

8/1/1994     475.49

7/1/1994     458.26

6/1/1994     444.27

5/2/1994     456.5

4/4/1994     450.91

3/1/1994     445.77

2/1/1994     467.14

1/3/1994     481.61

12/1/1993     466.45

11/1/1993     461.79

10/1/1993     467.83

9/1/1993     458.93

8/2/1993     463.56

7/1/1993     448.13

6/1/1993     450.53

5/3/1993     450.19

4/1/1993     440.19

3/1/1993     451.67

2/1/1993     443.38

1/4/1993     438.78

12/1/1992     435.71

11/2/1992     431.35

10/1/1992     418.68

9/1/1992     417.8

8/3/1992     414.03

7/1/1992     424.21

6/1/1992     408.14

5/1/1992     415.35

4/1/1992     414.95

3/2/1992     403.69

2/3/1992     412.7

1/2/1992     408.78

12/2/1991     417.09

11/1/1991     375.22

10/1/1991     392.45

9/3/1991     387.86

8/1/1991     395.43

7/1/1991     387.81

6/3/1991     371.16

5/1/1991     389.83

4/1/1991     375.34

3/1/1991     375.22

2/1/1991     367.07

1/2/1991     343.93

12/3/1990     330.22

11/1/1990     322.22

10/1/1990     304

9/4/1990     306.05

8/1/1990     322.56

7/2/1990     356.15

6/1/1990     358.02

5/1/1990     361.23

4/2/1990     330.8

3/1/1990     339.94

2/1/1990     331.89

1/2/1990     329.08

12/1/1989     353.4

11/1/1989     345.99

10/2/1989     340.36

9/1/1989     349.15

8/1/1989     351.45

7/3/1989     346.08

6/1/1989     317.98

5/1/1989     320.52

4/3/1989     309.64

3/1/1989     294.87

2/1/1989     288.86

1/3/1989     297.47

12/1/1988     277.72

11/1/1988     273.7

10/3/1988     278.97

9/1/1988     271.91

8/1/1988     261.52

7/1/1988     272.02

6/1/1988     273.5

5/2/1988     262.16

4/4/1988     261.33

3/1/1988     258.89

2/1/1988     267.82

1/4/1988     257.07

12/1/1987     247.08

11/2/1987     230.3

10/1/1987     251.79

9/1/1987     321.83

8/3/1987     329.8

7/1/1987     318.66

6/1/1987     304

5/1/1987     290.1

4/1/1987     288.36

3/2/1987     291.7

2/2/1987     284.2

1/2/1987     274.08

12/1/1986     242.17

11/3/1986     249.22

10/1/1986     243.98

9/2/1986     231.32

8/1/1986     252.93

7/1/1986     236.12

6/2/1986     250.84

5/1/1986     247.35

4/1/1986     235.52

3/3/1986     238.9

2/3/1986     226.92

1/2/1986     211.78

12/2/1985     211.28

11/1/1985     202.17

10/1/1985     189.82

9/3/1985     182.08

8/1/1985     188.63

7/1/1985     190.92

6/3/1985     191.85

5/1/1985     189.55

4/1/1985     179.83

3/1/1985     180.66

2/1/1985     181.18

1/2/1985     179.63

12/3/1984     167.24

11/1/1984     163.58

10/1/1984     166.09

9/4/1984     166.1

8/1/1984     166.68

7/2/1984     150.66

6/1/1984     153.18

5/1/1984     150.55

4/2/1984     160.05

3/1/1984     159.18

2/1/1984     157.06

1/3/1984     163.41

12/1/1983     164.93

11/1/1983     166.4

10/3/1983     163.55

9/1/1983     166.07

8/1/1983     164.4

7/1/1983     162.56

6/1/1983     167.64

5/2/1983     162.39

4/4/1983     164.43

3/1/1983     152.96

2/1/1983     148.06

1/3/1983     145.3

12/1/1982     140.64

11/1/1982     138.53

10/1/1982     133.72

9/1/1982     120.42

8/2/1982     119.51

7/1/1982     107.09

6/1/1982     109.61

5/3/1982     111.88

4/1/1982     116.44

3/1/1982     111.96

2/1/1982     113.11

1/4/1982     120.4

12/1/1981     122.55

11/2/1981     126.35

10/1/1981     121.89

9/1/1981     116.18

8/3/1981     122.79

7/1/1981     130.92

6/1/1981     131.21

5/1/1981     132.59

4/1/1981     132.81

3/2/1981     136

2/2/1981     131.27

1/2/1981     129.55

12/1/1980     135.76

11/3/1980     140.52

10/1/1980     127.47

9/2/1980     125.46

8/1/1980     122.38

7/1/1980     121.67

6/2/1980     114.24

5/1/1980     111.24

4/1/1980     106.29

3/3/1980     102.09

2/1/1980     113.66

1/2/1980     114.16

12/3/1979     107.94

11/1/1979     106.16

10/1/1979     101.82

9/4/1979     109.32

8/1/1979     109.32

7/2/1979     103.81

6/1/1979     102.91

5/1/1979     99.08

4/2/1979     101.76

3/1/1979     101.59

2/1/1979     96.28

1/2/1979     99.93

12/1/1978     96.11

11/1/1978     94.7

10/2/1978     93.15

9/1/1978     102.54

8/1/1978     103.29

7/3/1978     100.68

6/1/1978     95.53

5/1/1978     97.24

4/3/1978     96.83

3/1/1978     89.21

2/1/1978     87.04

1/3/1978     89.25

12/1/1977     95.1

11/1/1977     94.83

10/3/1977     92.34

9/1/1977     96.53

8/1/1977     96.77

7/1/1977     98.85

6/1/1977     100.48

5/2/1977     96.12

4/1/1977     98.44

3/1/1977     98.42

2/1/1977     99.82

1/3/1977     102.03

12/1/1976     107.46

11/1/1976     102.1

10/1/1976     102.9

9/1/1976     105.24

8/2/1976     102.91

7/1/1976     103.44

6/1/1976     104.28

5/3/1976     100.18

4/1/1976     101.64

3/1/1976     102.77

2/2/1976     99.71

1/2/1976     100.86

12/1/1975     90.19

11/3/1975     91.24

10/1/1975     89.04

9/2/1975     83.87

8/1/1975     86.88

7/1/1975     88.75

6/2/1975     95.19

5/1/1975     91.15

4/1/1975     87.3

3/3/1975     83.36

2/3/1975     81.59

1/2/1975     76.98

12/2/1974     68.56

11/1/1974     69.97

10/1/1974     73.9

9/3/1974     63.54

8/1/1974     72.15

7/1/1974     79.31

6/3/1974     86

5/1/1974     87.28

4/1/1974     90.31

3/1/1974     93.98

2/1/1974     96.22

1/2/1974     96.57

12/3/1973     97.55

11/1/1973     95.96

10/1/1973     108.29

9/4/1973     108.43

8/1/1973     104.25

7/2/1973     108.22

6/1/1973     104.26

5/1/1973     104.95

4/2/1973     106.97

3/1/1973     111.52

2/1/1973     111.68

1/2/1973     116.03

12/1/1972     118.05

11/1/1972     116.67

10/2/1972     111.58

9/1/1972     110.55

8/1/1972     111.09

7/3/1972     107.39

6/1/1972     107.14

5/1/1972     109.53

4/3/1972     107.67

3/1/1972     107.2

2/1/1972     106.57

1/3/1972     103.94

12/1/1971     102.09

11/1/1971     93.99

10/1/1971     94.23

9/1/1971     98.34

8/2/1971     99.03

7/1/1971     95.58

6/1/1971     98.7

5/3/1971     99.63

4/1/1971     103.95

3/1/1971     100.31

2/1/1971     96.75

1/4/1971     95.88

12/1/1970     92.15

11/2/1970     87.2

10/1/1970     83.25

9/1/1970     84.3

8/3/1970     81.52

7/1/1970     78.05

6/1/1970     72.72

5/1/1970     76.55

4/1/1970     81.52

3/2/1970     89.63

2/2/1970     89.5

1/2/1970     85.02

12/1/1969     92.06

11/3/1969     93.81

10/1/1969     97.12

9/2/1969     93.12

8/1/1969     95.51

7/1/1969     91.83

6/2/1969     97.71

5/1/1969     103.46

4/1/1969     103.69

3/3/1969     101.51

2/3/1969     98.13

1/2/1969     103.01

12/2/1968     103.86

11/1/1968     108.37

10/1/1968     103.41

9/3/1968     102.67

8/1/1968     98.86

7/1/1968     97.74

6/3/1968     99.58

5/1/1968     98.68

4/1/1968     97.46

3/1/1968     90.2

2/1/1968     89.36

1/2/1968     92.24

12/1/1967     96.47

11/1/1967     94

10/2/1967     93.3

9/1/1967     96.71

8/1/1967     93.64

7/3/1967     94.75

6/1/1967     90.64

5/1/1967     89.08

4/3/1967     94.01

3/1/1967     90.2

2/1/1967     86.78

1/3/1967     86.61

12/1/1966     80.33

11/1/1966     80.45

10/3/1966     80.2

9/1/1966     76.56

8/1/1966     77.1

7/1/1966     83.6

6/1/1966     84.74

5/2/1966     86.13

4/1/1966     91.06

3/1/1966     89.23

2/1/1966     91.22

1/3/1966     92.88

12/1/1965     92.43

11/1/1965     91.61

10/1/1965     92.42

9/1/1965     89.96

8/2/1965     87.17

7/1/1965     85.25

6/1/1965     84.12

5/3/1965     88.42

4/1/1965     89.11

3/1/1965     86.16

2/1/1965     87.43

1/4/1965     87.56

12/1/1964     84.75

11/2/1964     84.42

10/1/1964     84.86

9/1/1964     84.18

8/3/1964     81.83

7/1/1964     83.18

6/1/1964     81.69

5/1/1964     80.37

4/1/1964     79.46

3/2/1964     78.98

2/3/1964     77.8

1/2/1964     77.04

12/2/1963     75.02

11/1/1963     73.23

10/1/1963     74.01

9/3/1963     71.7

8/1/1963     72.5

7/1/1963     69.13

6/3/1963     69.37

5/1/1963     70.8

4/1/1963     69.8

3/1/1963     66.57

2/1/1963     64.29

1/2/1963     66.2

12/3/1962     63.1

11/1/1962     62.26

10/1/1962     56.52

9/4/1962     56.27

8/1/1962     59.12

7/2/1962     58.23

6/1/1962     54.75

5/1/1962     59.63

4/2/1962     65.24

3/1/1962     69.55

2/1/1962     69.96

1/2/1962     68.84

12/1/1961     71.55

11/1/1961     71.32

10/2/1961     68.62

9/1/1961     66.73

8/1/1961     68.07

7/3/1961     66.76

6/1/1961     64.64

5/1/1961     66.56

4/3/1961     65.31

3/1/1961     65.06

2/1/1961     63.44

1/3/1961     61.78

12/1/1960     58.11

11/1/1960     55.54

10/3/1960     53.39

9/1/1960     53.52

8/1/1960     56.96

7/1/1960     55.51

6/1/1960     56.92

5/2/1960     55.83

4/1/1960     54.37

3/1/1960     55.34

2/1/1960     56.12

1/4/1960     55.61

12/1/1959     59.89

11/2/1959     58.28

10/1/1959     57.52

9/1/1959     56.88

8/3/1959     59.6

7/1/1959     60.51

6/1/1959     58.47

5/1/1959     58.68

4/1/1959     57.59

3/2/1959     55.44

2/2/1959     55.41

1/2/1959     55.45

12/1/1958     55.21

11/3/1958     52.48

10/1/1958     51.33

9/2/1958     50.06

8/1/1958     47.75

7/1/1958     47.19

6/2/1958     45.24

5/1/1958     44.09

4/1/1958     43.44

3/3/1958     42.1

2/3/1958     40.84

1/2/1958     41.7

12/2/1957     39.99

11/1/1957     41.72

10/1/1957     41.06

9/3/1957     42.42

8/1/1957     45.22

7/1/1957     47.91

6/3/1957     47.37

5/1/1957     47.43

4/1/1957     45.74

3/1/1957     44.11

2/1/1957     43.26

1/2/1957     44.72

12/3/1956     46.67

11/1/1956     45.08

10/1/1956     45.58

9/4/1956     45.35

8/1/1956     47.51

7/2/1956     49.39

6/1/1956     46.97

5/1/1956     45.2

4/2/1956     48.38

3/1/1956     48.48

2/1/1956     45.34

1/3/1956     43.82

12/1/1955     45.48

11/1/1955     45.51

10/3/1955     42.34

9/1/1955     43.67

8/1/1955     43.18

7/1/1955     43.52

6/1/1955     41.03

5/2/1955     37.91

4/1/1955     37.96

3/1/1955     36.58

2/1/1955     36.76

1/3/1955     36.63

12/1/1954     35.98

11/1/1954     34.24

10/1/1954     31.68

9/1/1954     32.31

8/2/1954     29.83

7/1/1954     30.88

6/1/1954     29.21

5/3/1954     29.19

4/1/1954     28.26

3/1/1954     26.94

2/1/1954     26.15

1/4/1954     26.08

12/1/1953     24.81

11/2/1953     24.76

10/1/1953     24.54

9/1/1953     23.35

8/3/1953     23.32

7/1/1953     24.75

6/1/1953     24.14

5/1/1953     24.54

4/1/1953     24.62

3/2/1953     25.29

2/2/1953     25.9

1/2/1953     26.38

12/1/1952     26.57

11/3/1952     25.66

10/1/1952     24.52

9/2/1952     24.54

8/1/1952     25.03

7/1/1952     25.4

6/2/1952     24.96

5/1/1952     23.86

4/1/1952     23.32

3/3/1952     24.37

2/1/1952     23.26

1/2/1952     24.14

12/3/1951     23.77

11/1/1951     22.88

10/1/1951     22.94

9/4/1951     23.26

8/1/1951     23.28

7/2/1951     22.4

6/1/1951     20.96

5/1/1951     21.52

4/2/1951     22.43

3/1/1951     21.48

2/1/1951     21.8

1/2/1951     21.66

12/1/1950     20.43

11/1/1950     19.51

10/2/1950     19.53

9/1/1950     19.45

8/1/1950     18.42

7/3/1950     17.84

6/1/1950     17.69

5/1/1950     18.78

4/3/1950     17.96

3/1/1950     17.29

2/1/1950     17.22

1/3/1950     17.05

Dec 26, 2009 10:43 pm

way too much time on your hands!

Dec 27, 2009 8:28 am

no joke.



1/1/1996    spx 660ish

3/6/2009    spx 660ish



low volatility period (hahahha)

Dec 28, 2009 10:43 am

Shania, the II Bull/Bear ratio is off the charts!!  3.13!!  That's 52.2% bulls and 16.7% bears.  A spread of 35.5%. 

http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/investors_intelligence.htm

If I'm a bull, I don't like those numbers at all.  Too much blind optimism. 

Plus, you have insiders selling hand over fist.  If the corporate execs are cashing out now, what does that tell you about their confidence that share prices will continue to go up?


http://www.finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx?or=-10&tv=100000&tc=7&o=-transactionValue

Best of luck.  Hope the rally continues, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Anyone buying in now is rolling the dice big time. 


Dec 28, 2009 10:59 am
NYCTrader:

Shania, the II Bull/Bear ratio is off the charts!!  3.13!!  That's 52.2% bulls and 16.7% bears.  A spread of 35.5%. 

http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/investors_intelligence.htm

If I'm a bull, I don't like those numbers at all.  Too much blind optimism. 

Plus, you have insiders selling hand over fist.  If the corporate execs are cashing out now, what does that tell you about their confidence that share prices will continue to go up?


http://www.finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx?or=-10&tv=100000&tc=7&o=-transactionValue

Best of luck.  Hope the rally continues, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Anyone buying in now is rolling the dice big time. 




Look at the dates on the insider selling. All in December. Could it be that it is a tax issue for these folks?  Or that their options are about to expire?

Dec 28, 2009 12:23 pm
Moraen:
NYCTrader:

Shania, the II Bull/Bear ratio is off the charts!!  3.13!!  That's 52.2% bulls and 16.7% bears.  A spread of 35.5%. 

http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/investors_intelligence.htm

If I'm a bull, I don't like those numbers at all.  Too much blind optimism. 

Plus, you have insiders selling hand over fist.  If the corporate execs are cashing out now, what does that tell you about their confidence that share prices will continue to go up?


http://www.finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx?or=-10&tv=100000&tc=7&o=-transactionValue

Best of luck.  Hope the rally continues, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Anyone buying in now is rolling the dice big time. 




Look at the dates on the insider selling. All in December. Could it be that it is a tax issue for these folks?  Or that their options are about to expire?



Insider selling has been rampant for the entire fourth quarter.  The link I posted just shows the last week's numbers.   Come on man, do the research.  Insiders are selling like crazy and it has nothing to with tax issues or options expiring.  It has everything to do with how frothy share prices are right now and locking in gains.  These people are not stupid.  They are making sure they get paid. 

Dec 28, 2009 2:24 pm

Ive never seen so many powerful charts.

Seems like twice as many as 2003.

NOTHING to 1250 from mega-gap in 2008 (oct)



buy strength   sell weakness



Dec 28, 2009 2:32 pm
NYCTrader:
Moraen:
NYCTrader:

Shania, the II Bull/Bear ratio is off the charts!!  3.13!!  That's 52.2% bulls and 16.7% bears.  A spread of 35.5%. 

http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/investors_intelligence.htm

If I'm a bull, I don't like those numbers at all.  Too much blind optimism. 

Plus, you have insiders selling hand over fist.  If the corporate execs are cashing out now, what does that tell you about their confidence that share prices will continue to go up?


http://www.finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx?or=-10&tv=100000&tc=7&o=-transactionValue

Best of luck.  Hope the rally continues, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Anyone buying in now is rolling the dice big time. 




Look at the dates on the insider selling. All in December. Could it be that it is a tax issue for these folks?  Or that their options are about to expire?



Insider selling has been rampant for the entire fourth quarter.  The link I posted just shows the last week's numbers.   Come on man, do the research.  Insiders are selling like crazy and it has nothing to with tax issues or options expiring.  It has everything to do with how frothy share prices are right now and locking in gains.  These people are not stupid.  They are making sure they get paid. 



Show me the other links.  Those all show from the 17th.  How do you know all 4th quarter sales aren't for tax reasons?

And the fact that certain options will expire definitely skews the statistics. 

"Doing the research" involves more than just looking at insider trade numbers.

Dec 28, 2009 3:12 pm
Moraen:
NYCTrader:
Moraen:
NYCTrader:

Shania, the II Bull/Bear ratio is off the charts!!  3.13!!  That's 52.2% bulls and 16.7% bears.  A spread of 35.5%. 

http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/investors_intelligence.htm

If I'm a bull, I don't like those numbers at all.  Too much blind optimism. 

Plus, you have insiders selling hand over fist.  If the corporate execs are cashing out now, what does that tell you about their confidence that share prices will continue to go up?


http://www.finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx?or=-10&tv=100000&tc=7&o=-transactionValue

Best of luck.  Hope the rally continues, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Anyone buying in now is rolling the dice big time. 




Look at the dates on the insider selling. All in December. Could it be that it is a tax issue for these folks?  Or that their options are about to expire?



Insider selling has been rampant for the entire fourth quarter.  The link I posted just shows the last week's numbers.   Come on man, do the research.  Insiders are selling like crazy and it has nothing to with tax issues or options expiring.  It has everything to do with how frothy share prices are right now and locking in gains.  These people are not stupid.  They are making sure they get paid. 



Show me the other links.  Those all show from the 17th.  How do you know all 4th quarter sales aren't for tax reasons?

And the fact that certain options will expire definitely skews the statistics. 

"Doing the research" involves more than just looking at insider trade numbers.



I'm not going to do your research for you. 



How do you know all 4th quarter sales ARE for tax reasons?



Believe whatever you want.  I don't really care. 



The only person on this board who has laid out a bullish case is
Moriah.  I disagree with him, but at least he has a point of view
beyond "show me more links".




Dec 28, 2009 3:14 pm
NYCTrader:
Moraen:
NYCTrader:
Moraen:
NYCTrader:

Shania, the II Bull/Bear ratio is off the charts!!  3.13!!  That's 52.2% bulls and 16.7% bears.  A spread of 35.5%. 

http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/investors_intelligence.htm

If I'm a bull, I don't like those numbers at all.  Too much blind optimism. 

Plus, you have insiders selling hand over fist.  If the corporate execs are cashing out now, what does that tell you about their confidence that share prices will continue to go up?


http://www.finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx?or=-10&tv=100000&tc=7&o=-transactionValue

Best of luck.  Hope the rally continues, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Anyone buying in now is rolling the dice big time. 




Look at the dates on the insider selling. All in December. Could it be that it is a tax issue for these folks?  Or that their options are about to expire?



Insider selling has been rampant for the entire fourth quarter.  The link I posted just shows the last week's numbers.   Come on man, do the research.  Insiders are selling like crazy and it has nothing to with tax issues or options expiring.  It has everything to do with how frothy share prices are right now and locking in gains.  These people are not stupid.  They are making sure they get paid. 



Show me the other links.  Those all show from the 17th.  How do you know all 4th quarter sales aren't for tax reasons?

And the fact that certain options will expire definitely skews the statistics. 

"Doing the research" involves more than just looking at insider trade numbers.



I'm not going to do your research for you. 



How do you know all 4th quarter sales ARE for tax reasons?



Believe whatever you want.  I don't really care. 



The only person on this board who has laid out a bullish case is
Moriah.  I disagree with him, but at least he has a point of view
beyond "show me more links".






PS -- Shania, my apologies for referring to you as Moriah.  You're two very different pop stars and no offense was intended.

Dec 28, 2009 3:17 pm
NYCTrader:
Moraen:
NYCTrader:
Moraen:
NYCTrader:

Shania, the II Bull/Bear ratio is off the charts!!  3.13!!  That's 52.2% bulls and 16.7% bears.  A spread of 35.5%. 

http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/investors_intelligence.htm

If I'm a bull, I don't like those numbers at all.  Too much blind optimism. 

Plus, you have insiders selling hand over fist.  If the corporate execs are cashing out now, what does that tell you about their confidence that share prices will continue to go up?


http://www.finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx?or=-10&tv=100000&tc=7&o=-transactionValue

Best of luck.  Hope the rally continues, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Anyone buying in now is rolling the dice big time. 




Look at the dates on the insider selling. All in December. Could it be that it is a tax issue for these folks?  Or that their options are about to expire?



Insider selling has been rampant for the entire fourth quarter.  The link I posted just shows the last week's numbers.   Come on man, do the research.  Insiders are selling like crazy and it has nothing to with tax issues or options expiring.  It has everything to do with how frothy share prices are right now and locking in gains.  These people are not stupid.  They are making sure they get paid. 



Show me the other links.  Those all show from the 17th.  How do you know all 4th quarter sales aren't for tax reasons?

And the fact that certain options will expire definitely skews the statistics. 

"Doing the research" involves more than just looking at insider trade numbers.



I'm not going to do your research for you. 



How do you know all 4th quarter sales ARE for tax reasons?



Believe whatever you want.  I don't really care. 



The only person on this board who has laid out a bullish case is
Moriah.  I disagree with him, but at least he has a point of view
beyond "show me more links".






Who is Moriah?  Is that a combination of me and Shania? 

I don't know they are for tax reasons.  But just because an insider sells, doesn't automatically mean the stock is going to fall.  If they are taking profits, maybe it is because they didn't want to get the shaft in case something went bad like last time.

It's ok to take money off of the table.

I think you are reading a little too much into one thing.  A little backwards reasoning is more telling about insider selling than just looking at bare bones numbers.

Most CEOs and directors have some formal strategic training.  Selling now, whether or not for tax reasons makes good strategic sense.  Taking profits off of the table to diversify their holdings might make sense for them.  Or to take advantage of other opportunities outside of the equity markets.  Real estate in Las Vegas, I hear, is very cheap right now.

Dec 28, 2009 3:20 pm

Dec 28, 2009 3:21 pm

Busted.

Dec 28, 2009 3:24 pm

reverse that USD long now.

trend your friend, my friend.



retest and/or break of USD low will power stocks to 1250ish

Dec 28, 2009 3:40 pm

NYC



trim tabs:



38 freakin weeks of net outflows of equity funds.....with every MF market on the planet up HUGE.



As usual the small guy missed this big time.   



The TRAP was the gripping fear that made people bail and get way, way too safe relative to their true asset allocation levels.



Take that PLUS Bennie boy fukcing with people by paying ZERO on cash and risk free assets........



perfect bull storm



Ben WILL make people step up to risk.   The monster bull tell was USD bounce of low.   F the carry trade........they moved to large cap names. (utils etc)



safe MONEY IS LOOKING FOR A HOME.    The numbers here can take

this bihch much higher



f the fundos



I see the BUBBLE risk in govies and corps. look at all the money going into bond funds.   



"stocks too risky, Ill buy bonds now"   i think these sheep will get creamed.



yield who*res dont understand how a 20 year get crushed if rates go up.



but that wont be for a while.   the day ben changes wording of fed statement is day u can trim. And thats not coming for a while cause inflation is toast.



i bet u get a nasty, nasty day and morning follow through.   buy that opening

Dec 28, 2009 3:44 pm
Shania Twain:

reverse that USD long now.

trend your friend, my friend.



retest and/or break of USD low will power stocks to 1250ish



Already covered my USD long trade.  Made a nice return on that one.  Holding lots of cash, puts, bonds and a few utilities (I'm with Gross on that one).  Also close to pulling the trigger on another currency play.

I will agree that it's tough earning next to nothing on cash right now, but I'd rather play it safe than put money to work in a market rally that I no longer believe in.  I also think there will be opportunity to buy at much more attractive prices and I'm willing to be patient.




Dec 28, 2009 3:51 pm

jews gonna take out Iran nukes, i think.



Buy the crap out of that sell off (wont last long)



(Abajahaajdadjadjshajahsjdad is losing power. Needs to do something to get power back. i think he crosses jews line in sand on nuke building and jews take care of business)

Dec 28, 2009 4:03 pm
Shania Twain:

NYC



trim tabs:



38 freakin weeks of net outflows of equity funds.....with every MF market on the planet up HUGE.



As usual the small guy missed this big time.   



The TRAP was the gripping fear that made people bail and get way, way too safe relative to their true asset allocation levels.



Take that PLUS Bennie boy fukcing with people by paying ZERO on cash and risk free assets........



perfect bull storm



Ben WILL make people step up to risk.   The monster bull tell was USD bounce of low.   F the carry trade........they moved to large cap names. (utils etc)



safe MONEY IS LOOKING FOR A HOME.    The numbers here can take

this bihch much higher



f the fundos



I see the BUBBLE risk in govies and corps. look at all the money going into bond funds.   



"stocks too risky, Ill buy bonds now"   i think these sheep will get creamed.



yield who*res dont understand how a 20 year get crushed if rates go up.



but that wont be for a while.   the day ben changes wording of fed statement is day u can trim. And thats not coming for a while cause inflation is toast.



i bet u get a nasty, nasty day and morning follow through.   buy that opening



No disagreement that there are very few places to go for yield. 

I'm with you that bonds are tricky right now.  Definitely overbought.  Especially high yield. 

No argument that a lot of people missed out on the rally and have been trying to play catch-up. 

I was pretty much all in equities December '08 and cashed out in early November '09 (slowly took profits throughout the fall).  I got in early and may have gotten out a little too early.  Point is I made profits and that's all I care about at the end of the day.

I don't like what I see right now and would prefer to sit this one out.  Would rather miss out on upside than participate in downside.