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Sep 10, 2009 12:47 pm

Army - not to bust your chops, but of course the views on the war change. The loud minorities (extreme liberals and conservatives) are what drive debate in this country.



I will say that in our little rural region of Iraq, we had the same problem as you are talking about in Afghanistan. We built girl-only schools, but people were still trying to target them. To be honest, I take a more isolationist attitude and think we shouldn’t be in either country. But that’s how you get bombed.



As for “Obama lied, they continue to die”. I’ll say the same thing I said when G.W.B. was in office. Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. One soldier dying is too many, but that is what we signed up to do. Make no mistake, it is a dangerous job. But that’s why we are the greatest military on the face of the earth, we train for it.



Personally I think G.W. is a good man and had a difficult job after 9/11. I also think that Obama is a good man, with a tough road ahead of him. I would never want to be POTUS. And I find it difficult to criticize anyone who attempts the job.

Sep 10, 2009 12:58 pm

[quote=Moraen]Army - not to bust your chops, but of course the views on the war change. The loud minorities (extreme liberals and conservatives) are what drive debate in this country.



I will say that in our little rural region of Iraq, we had the same problem as you are talking about in Afghanistan. We built girl-only schools, but people were still trying to target them. To be honest, I take a more isolationist attitude and think we shouldn’t be in either country. But that’s how you get bombed.



As for “Obama lied, they continue to die”. I’ll say the same thing I said when G.W.B. was in office. Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. One soldier dying is too many, but that is what we signed up to do. Make no mistake, it is a dangerous job. But that’s why we are the greatest military on the face of the earth, we train for it.



Personally I think G.W. is a good man and had a difficult job after 9/11. I also think that Obama is a good man, with a tough road ahead of him. I would never want to be POTUS. And I find it difficult to criticize anyone who attempts the job.[/quote]

That and we spend more on our military than UK, China, France, Japan, and the next ten largest countries combined. 

I realize China under reports but my point is still the same. 

Sep 10, 2009 2:41 pm
Moraen:

Army - not to bust your chops, but of course the views on the war change. The loud minorities (extreme liberals and conservatives) are what drive debate in this country.

I will say that in our little rural region of Iraq, we had the same problem as you are talking about in Afghanistan. We built girl-only schools, but people were still trying to target them. To be honest, I take a more isolationist attitude and think we shouldn’t be in either country. But that’s how you get bombed.

As for “Obama lied, they continue to die”. I’ll say the same thing I said when G.W.B. was in office. Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. One soldier dying is too many, but that is what we signed up to do. Make no mistake, it is a dangerous job. But that’s why we are the greatest military on the face of the earth, we train for it.

Personally I think G.W. is a good man and had a difficult job after 9/11. I also think that Obama is a good man, with a tough road ahead of him. I would never want to be POTUS. And I find it difficult to criticize anyone who attempts the job.

  I couldn't agree with you more brother.  I'm an Independent that slants toward the Libertarian Party and agree with taking care of our own house as well but if we just up and leave from both countries right now, complete chaos would ensue.  You are absolutely right, that it's a tough situation for anyone to be in.  I definitely don't envy the man with the decisions he has to make.    What really irks me is that our fellow brothers and sisters in arms are dying over there while these freaking civilians here are worried about Jon & Kate!!! I can't watch any regular news channel without seeing their ugly mugs plastered everywhere.  That drives me insane!!
Sep 10, 2009 3:07 pm

George Bush is a classic example of why honest men should never go to Washington.  He does so and gets dumped on and drug through the mud for 8 years.

  Meanwhile a murderer named Ted Kennedy is held up as an American Hero in Washington.   Go figure...
Sep 10, 2009 3:13 pm
 Army, there are two types of wars civilizations fight.  Ones that threaten their existence and ones that politicians start for their own reasons.  I forget the academic names but the premise is simple enough.  A population will never back a war long term in which it's existence is not threatened.  Compair War War II to Korea - exact same population base. Blame the politicians ... not the people at home.   In my humble opinion, if we have not declared war we should not be engaged in the conflict. If the threat does not threaten our sovereignty we should not declare war.  Of course, I think the constitution says that also?   Time to doorknock.... damn!
Sep 10, 2009 3:22 pm

[quote=BerkshireBull]George Bush is a classic example of why honest men should never go to Washington.  He does so and gets dumped on and drug through the mud for 8 years.

  Meanwhile a murderer named Ted Kennedy is held up as an American Hero in Washington.   Go figure...[/quote]   Trust me, I'm not fan of Ted Kennedy but murderer? That's a little harsh man.  What he did is beyond comprehension to me but I wouldn't say murderer.  Laura Bush killed someone when she ran a stop sign, would she count as a murderer?
Sep 10, 2009 3:31 pm

[quote=army13A][quote=BerkshireBull]George Bush is a classic example of why honest men should never go to Washington.  He does so and gets dumped on and drug through the mud for 8 years.

  Meanwhile a murderer named Ted Kennedy is held up as an American Hero in Washington.   Go figure...[/quote]   Trust me, I'm not fan of Ted Kennedy but murderer? That's a little harsh man.  What he did is beyond comprehension to me but I wouldn't say murderer.  Laura Bush killed someone when she ran a stop sign, would she count as a murderer? [/quote]   Only if you're a Democrat.
Sep 10, 2009 3:40 pm
j.wehman:


However I have been doing most of the right things and saving my paychecks and investing into the stock market with it.  I only got lucky with aig as i bought in back in March when it was around 3 dollars and selling half my shares at 45 dollars.  Other than that my portfolio is all over the place.

    So you bought at 3.00 a share and sold at 2.25?   If this is "lucky," I would really like to know what your other investments have done.   Next time you lie about the investments you make, you may want to check for splits and reverse splits first.  
Sep 10, 2009 3:53 pm

[quote=SometimesNowhere][quote=army13A][quote=BerkshireBull]George Bush is a classic example of why honest men should never go to Washington.  He does so and gets dumped on and drug through the mud for 8 years.

  Meanwhile a murderer named Ted Kennedy is held up as an American Hero in Washington.   Go figure...[/quote]   Trust me, I'm not fan of Ted Kennedy but murderer? That's a little harsh man.  What he did is beyond comprehension to me but I wouldn't say murderer.  Laura Bush killed someone when she ran a stop sign, would she count as a murderer? [/quote]   Only if you're a Democrat.[/quote]   LOL, it's funny to me as an independent (I despise both parties and  I don't think either represent the American people fairly) how each side go at each other.  I have friends on the extreme right and left who swear they are not crazy when I tell them they're wacko; they think they're normal.      The only thing I can find remotely close to my views are the Libertarian party: REALLY low taxes; no govt intrusion into anything that is personal to me or any one else (two dudes want to file a joint tax return, I couldn't care less or whether two consensual adults want to have sex for money, who gives a rat's a**); flex our military power when it's needed and if it's not needed, take care of our own home first; promote good values and morals.    This thread is getting way off topic, lol
Sep 10, 2009 4:24 pm
army13A:

[quote=Moraen]Army - not to bust your chops, but of course the views on the war change. The loud minorities (extreme liberals and conservatives) are what drive debate in this country.

I will say that in our little rural region of Iraq, we had the same problem as you are talking about in Afghanistan. We built girl-only schools, but people were still trying to target them. To be honest, I take a more isolationist attitude and think we shouldn’t be in either country. But that’s how you get bombed.

As for “Obama lied, they continue to die”. I’ll say the same thing I said when G.W.B. was in office. Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. One soldier dying is too many, but that is what we signed up to do. Make no mistake, it is a dangerous job. But that’s why we are the greatest military on the face of the earth, we train for it.

Personally I think G.W. is a good man and had a difficult job after 9/11. I also think that Obama is a good man, with a tough road ahead of him. I would never want to be POTUS. And I find it difficult to criticize anyone who attempts the job.

  I couldn't agree with you more brother.  I'm an Independent that slants toward the Libertarian Party and agree with taking care of our own house as well but if we just up and leave from both countries right now, complete chaos would ensue.  You are absolutely right, that it's a tough situation for anyone to be in.  I definitely don't envy the man with the decisions he has to make.    What really irks me is that our fellow brothers and sisters in arms are dying over there while these freaking civilians here are worried about Jon & Kate!!! I can't watch any regular news channel without seeing their ugly mugs plastered everywhere.  That drives me insane!! [/quote]   Actually Army, and I don't have to tell you this....our fellow brothers and sisters in arms are dying over there SO the civilians here can worry about Jon & Kate!  And speaking for myself, I appreciate it wholeheartedly!  I think that is what makes our Armed Forces and our Country so great!  Our brave men & woman risk their lives so that American Citizens can go on living theirs!  Thank you for your service (Moraen too!)
Sep 10, 2009 8:33 pm

Since this thread is so far off topic, check out the guy in the video.  I love this guy!  Capitalism, entrepreneurial spirit and patriotism all in one.  I think I’m going to follow his lead and give one away for every $100k I get from a new client.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmi-bBhWG8


Sep 10, 2009 8:56 pm
KensLoveChild:

Since this thread is so far off topic, check out the guy in the video.  I love this guy!  Capitalism, entrepreneurial spirit and patriotism all in one.  I think I’m going to follow his lead and give one away for every $100k I get from a new client.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmi-bBhWG8


  That video was awesome.  If there was a way that ALL GUNS were taken off the streets except for military and law enforcement, I'd have no problem with not being able to carry and bear arms.  But since that is impossible, I keep my trigger squeeze and shot group tight.     
Sep 10, 2009 9:31 pm

Army, there is no way you have a Libertarian bone in your body with that statement.  I don’t need guns to protect myself from fellow citizens … it’s the military and law enforment I’m worried about.    aka: government

  Long live the king
Sep 10, 2009 9:49 pm

Completely off topic but i did not know where to post so here goes… i work in oil and gas and the new company i work for requires series 22 and 63. I am on probation , will that affect my ability to get liscensed? Thanks for any help

Sep 10, 2009 11:05 pm

[quote=TXoilandgas]Completely off topic but i did not know where to post so here goes… i work in oil and gas and the new company i work for requires series 22 and 63. I am on probation , will that affect my ability to get liscensed? Thanks for any help[/quote]




buzz kill

Sep 10, 2009 11:19 pm

any explanation or a site where i could reference this would be appreciated

Sep 10, 2009 11:47 pm

[quote=Moraen]…Less Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than in the municipality down the street from me. [/quote]

Where the f**k do you live??? Sudan??? That’s almost 1,000 people per year!!! 

Sep 11, 2009 3:15 am

[quote=voltmoie]Army, there is no way you have a Libertarian bone in your body with that statement.  I don’t need guns to protect myself from fellow citizens … it’s the military and law enforment I’m worried about.    aka: government

  Long live the king[/quote]

I don't trust certain government entities: IRS, Federal Reserve.  It's not the military and law enforcement that are stacking up American prisons.  It's low lives who have no respect for human life and personal property and who don't deserve to breathe the same air we do.  We should put all felons on one freaking island, drop weapons with them and let them sort each other out. 
Sep 11, 2009 1:44 pm

I think its funny that prison over-crowding is such an issue.  What does a new prison cost? $100mm, max?  We spend that in court costs to get peoples sentences reduced every day.  I say we bite the bullet, build 50 new prisons and call it a day.

Sep 14, 2009 12:13 pm
UNDERMINDED:

I think its funny that prison over-crowding is such an issue. What does a new prison cost? $100mm, max? We spend that in court costs to get peoples sentences reduced every day. I say we bite the bullet, build 50 new prisons and call it a day.



The English had the right idea. Find a continent a half a world away. Populate it with the people you don't want. Sounds like Antarctica to me.