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Jul 12, 2005 12:38 pm

[quote=stanwbrown]

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Bottom line, in his effort to shed the beer gut carrying, pink and green plaid sports coat wearing, not welcome to socialize with the beautiful people, insurance salesman equals turd in the punchbowl persona that helps him sell bucket loads of whole life to the yokels , Rogerthejoke wades in on the subject of security business practices and proves himself to be immediately in over his head….

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Just damn, what a word picture.  Stan gives good message board.
Jul 12, 2005 1:15 pm

Joe Namath was the homerun king of the National League.<<<Stan



No he wasn’t–we all know that John Daley can hit it farther than Broadway Joe.

Jul 12, 2005 1:50 pm

[quote=Put Trader]The risk pools I dangle are boring, overeducated and healthy lifestyle snobs like yourself<<Mojo



Note the reference to “overeducted” that is so common among the undereducated.



Tell me Mojo, would you urge your own son or daughter to avoid becoming educated?

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I urge all children to fill their hearts with love. I fill their
warehouses with virtues and reason while paving the rules of polite
manners as the footsteps to the door. I teach the value of a dollar
earned without knowledge of its worth to be vanity itself. And I
reinforce the act of stillness and the beauty of rewarding others with
gifts.



What would you call risk pools which are more top-heavy then the
departments at most colleges and universities…knowledgable,
efficient, streamlined? When you grab at straw Putsy to stuff your own
shirt you exhibit those needs and urges that draw you towards the
squaller of your perversions that ring of over-loosened and too high
strung chords plucked by idle and careless hands.

Jul 12, 2005 1:57 pm

[quote=Mojo]

I urge all children to fill their hearts with love. I fill their
warehouses with virtues and reason while paving the rules of polite
manners as the footsteps to the door. I teach the value of a dollar
earned without knowledge of its worth to be vanity itself. And I
reinforce the act of stillness and the beauty of rewarding others with
gifts.



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My God, the stupid drivel has turned to mindless pablum.



What, pray tell, does the above have to do with being an grownup, taking care of a family?



Where on the job application does one enter, "I did not go to school in
the traditional sense, but I was taught to go through life with a heart
full of love."



Is that what happened to you–some adult told you one day that if your
heart was filled with love it would not matter that your brain was
empty and you actually believed it?

Jul 12, 2005 2:08 pm

[quote=Mojo]

We can feature a portfolio of cash value investments offering equity
and fixed-income yields  (this  vehicle is evolving rapidly
and is out of style with the more sophisticated client).
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I mixed my metaphors. The COLI funding vehicles do not offer the
sophistication buyers are demanding when looking to mirror plans like a
401 (k) as an example. The newer designed vehicle is becoming the
consistant winner on this track and is not a COLI chasis. My mistake.
COLI once dominated the these select funding vehicles for the last
decade. Today, it’s estimated to be under the hood of less then half
the heaps on the track. (The greatest part of this post so far is that
you still don’t understand the words let alone the pictures they are
illustrating. I get the feelling that you would be more satisfied just
strumming your lip like a motor and pushing your chair around the desk
in your office as you try to capture the checkered flag.)

Jul 12, 2005 2:17 pm

[quote=Mojo]



I urge all children to fill their hearts with love. I fill their
warehouses with virtues and reason while paving the rules of polite
manners as the footsteps to the door. I teach the value of a dollar
earned without knowledge of its worth to be vanity itself. And I
reinforce the act of stillness and the beauty of rewarding others with
gifts.



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Let’s revisit this.  It is child abuse—that leaves no physical
marks–for an adult to fill children’s minds with crap like that.



Kids should be taught the read, write and sum.  If they’re not they’re going to end up peddling life insurance.

Jul 12, 2005 2:42 pm

It’s the new Republican Mantra, Putsy. I’m a compassionate
conservative. I’m off. I shared my room with a young man last night.
Unlike what your accustomed to, he calls me Daddy. We’re in Detroit for
the week…all work and no play makes sum a dull boy.



(We’ll be wearing Orange all week. I’m going to show my son some of the
dinosours of industry and the heart of soul music for a generation. If
we have time, we might head up to Saginaw and cross a picket line or
two. Wish you were here, I could use you to stand in your 3-piece, or
is it 4-piece, I never asked if you wear a hat, and point at the
monuments of our countries history - I’d even buy you a hot dog, sport.)

Jul 12, 2005 3:26 pm

[quote=Mojo]



We’re in Detroit for
the week…all work and no play makes sum a dull boy.


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Spent many a moon in Detroit–actually Southfield, nine mile or five mile one of those mile streets.



If God ever declares that the earth must be given an enema the tube will be inserted in Detroit–what a horrible place.

Jul 12, 2005 5:29 pm

[quote=stanwbrown]Let’s see, Rogerdodger says B share after no “numerical advantage” over A shares front load at time of sale. When asked how that’s so, Rogerthelame says they USED to not have one and if I were as advanced in age as he, I’d know that. When asked when that was, Rogerthetapdancer says he know longer has the prospectus, but I should research it.[/quote]

Incorrect. I said "offered" which you tried to change to "offer" so that you'd have a point. This subtle, yet vast, oversight on your part places you squarely in the failed planner box.

[quote=stanwbrown]End result, Rogerthepauper caught talking out his fourth point of contact on a subject he knows bumpkis about….[/quote]

It's really funny that someone accuses me of not knowing bupkis, and misspells that word as "bumpkis." That makes stanwbrowneye a shlemiel.

[quote=stanwbrown]For those of you keeping track at home, Rogertheplaid claimes there’s a “toll” to get into an SMA (and the typical corollary, that if I were as elderly as he, I’d know that). Anyone with even a passing knowledge on the subject knows that Rogerthegasbag’s claim was the equivalent of someone who knows nothing of baseball making the claim that Joe Namath was the homerun king of the National League.[/quote]

From your wilfull ignorance, one can easily see that your own experience with SMAs is very limited, probably just robbing your own book of B Shares because you're not good enough to bring in new money. That's why you think there's no toll -- you're just churning your own book.

[quote=stanwbrown]Bottom line, in his effort to shed the beer gut carrying, pink and green plaid sports coat wearing, not welcome to socialize with the beautiful people, insurance salesman equals turd in the punchbowl persona that helps him sell bucket loads of whole life to the yokels , Rogerthejoke wades in on the subject of security business practices and proves himself to be immediately in over his head….[/quote]

I've never even seen a coat like you describe so intimately. It sounds like you just looked in a mirror before you wrote that, because you paint your own picture so well, beer gut and all.

Jul 12, 2005 5:37 pm

Incorrect.
I said “offered” which you tried to change to “offer” so that you’d
have a point. This subtle, yet vast, oversight on your part places you
squarely in the failed planner box.<<<Roger



Roger, adults don’t really identify with childish drivel such as “Failed Planner,” “Piker” and "Top Gun Producer."



That entire program was developed by somebody who had losers who dropped out of college in mind.



If you want to insult those of us who are accomplished you cannot do it
by referring to us as a failed anything.  I am a Senior Vice
President at a firm that would toss your resume in the trash–and you
have the temerity to refer to me as a "failed planner."



Do you see the intellectual disconnect?



Stan Brown is able to walk into any of your clients’ offices and offer
them everything you can PLUS dozens and dozens of other things. 
Yet you have the temerity to refer to him as a "failed planner?"



It is to laugh.

Jul 12, 2005 5:46 pm

[quote=Put Trader] I am a Senior Vice President at a firm that would toss your resume in the trash--and you have the temerity to refer to me as a "failed planner."[/quote]

Is that you in the Dilbert cartoons?

I have to ask:  How do you get your tie to curl up like that? I'd like to wear mine that way for a joke someday.

You must work for Primerica. I hear they promote people to SVP after they sell 3 policies, or recruit 3 for their "downline." You sure do sound like one of those bozos.

Yes, you're a failed planner. There is no doubt about that. If you were any good, you'd be in private practice instead of being a Dilbert.

Jul 13, 2005 3:31 am

[quote=Roger Thornhill] <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

[quote=stanwbrown]Let’s see, Rogerdodger says B share offer no “numerical advantage” over A shares front load at time of sale. When asked how that’s so, Rogerthelame says they USED to not have one and if I were as advanced in age as he, I’d know that. When asked when that was, Rogerthetapdancer says he know longer has the prospectus, but I should research it.[/quote]

Incorrect. I said "offered" which you tried to change to "offer" so that you'd have a point. This subtle, yet vast, oversight on your part places you squarely in the failed planner box.

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Bottom line, me, gasbag. When you were corrected about A shares having a front load and therefore having a disadvantage at the time of sale to B shares, you claimed there was a time, back when you were young and carefree, that that wasn’t the case . I asked when that was, you tap danced. You haven’t a clue, insurance boy….

 [quote=Roger Thornhill] [quote=stanwbrown]For those of you keeping track at home, Rogertheplaid claims there’s a “toll” to get into an SMA (and the typical corollary, that if I were as elderly as he, I’d know that). Anyone with even a passing knowledge on the subject knows that Rogerthegasbag’s claim was the equivalent of someone who knows nothing of baseball making the claim that Joe Namath was the homerun king of the National League.[/quote]

From your wilfull ignorance, one can easily see that your own experience with SMAs is very limited, probably just robbing your own book of B Shares because you're not good enough to bring in new money. That's why you think there's no toll -- you're just churning your own book.

[/quote] The word, Rogerthelame, is “willful”. If you’re going to correct my spelling of Yiddish, please have the ability to spell in English. As to your claim, oft repeated but never supported, there is no “toll” to an SMA. It doesn’t matter how many times you claim otherwise or drag out some lame attempt at diversion, there simply is no “toll” and everyone reading this who’s passed the Series 7 and owns 63/65 combination or a 66 knows it. Here's an additional hint, anyone with CIMA and CFP after their name knows it as well.

Repeat after me, Roger my boy, SMAs have no “toll”….

[quote=Roger Thornhill] [quote=stanwbrown]Bottom line, in his effort to shed the beer gut carrying, pink and green plaid sports coat wearing, not welcome to socialize with the beautiful people, insurance salesman equals turd in the punchbowl persona that helps him sell bucket loads of whole life to the yokels , Rogerthejoke wades in on the subject of security business practices and proves himself to be immediately in over his head….[/quote]

I've never even seen a coat like you describe so intimately. [/quote]

Of course you have. You own one. It’s the uniform of “moderators” of “high impact sales training” for insurance types….

 

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Jul 13, 2005 3:48 am

Roger, you’re about as obnoxious as PT…and I think you post more…pathetic…

Jul 13, 2005 4:48 am

[quote=stanwbrown]Bottom line, me, gasbag. When you were corrected about A shares having a front load and therefore having a disadvantage at the time of sale to B shares, you claimed there was a time, back when you were young and carefree, that that wasn’t the case . I asked when that was, you tap danced. You haven’t a clue, insurance boy….[/quote]

I'd agree that you're a gasbag. 

I haven't been corrected about anything to do with B Shares, that's just a figment of your imagination.

[quote=stanwbrown]The word, Rogerthelame, is “willful”. If you’re going to correct my spelling of Yiddish, please have the ability to spell in English. As to your claim, oft repeated but never supported, there is no “toll” to an SMA. It doesn’t matter how many times you claim otherwise or drag out some lame attempt at diversion, there simply is no “toll” and everyone reading this who’s passed the Series 7 and owns 63/65 combination or a 66 knows it. Here's an additional hint, anyone with CIMA and CFP after their name knows it as well.[/quote]

And it's also "Wilful" -- a typo isn't as bad as grossly misspelling a word.

If you don't know the tolls involved with the movement of money, you don't do much business.

[quote=stanwbrown]Repeat after me, Roger my boy, SMAs have no “toll”….[/quote]

Repeat after me, stanwbrowneye, "I am a putz."

Did you know there's a song about you?

http://www.lyrics007.com/20%20Fingers%20Lyrics/Short%20Dick% 20Man%20Lyrics.html

[quote=stanwbrown]Of course you have. You own one. It’s the uniform of “moderators” of “high impact sales training” for insurance types….[/quote]

Incorrect. I don't own the same crap you do, and you'd have to be a moron to assert anything to the contrary.

That makes you a....moron!

Jul 13, 2005 4:52 am

Wow...I'm blown away by the level of intelligence and maturity you show.

Jul 13, 2005 4:53 am

[quote=Indyone]

Wow...I'm blown away by the level of intelligence and maturity you show.

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Blown, eh? Is that a quid pro quo activity for you and your partner?

Jul 13, 2005 5:18 am

Again, you blow me away…I’m so impressed with your large…IQ…

Jul 13, 2005 6:12 am

"If you don't know the tolls involved with the movement of money, you don't do much business."

Here's your big chance Rogertheclueless, name the "toll" in SMAs. No dancing, no singing, no lame attempts at humor, no changing the terms or moving the goalposts, just name the "toll" in SMAs.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

I'm betting the ranch you lack the 'nads to simply admit like a man that you were in over your head, said something stupid and were called on it.

 
Jul 13, 2005 8:54 am

[quote=stanwbrown]Here’s your big chance Rogertheclueless, name the “toll” in SMAs. No dancing, no singing, no lame attempts at humor, no changing the terms or moving the goalposts, just name the “toll” in SMAs.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = “urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office” /><O:P></O:P>

I'm betting the ranch you lack the 'nads to simply admit like a man that you were in over your head, said something stupid and were called on it.[/quote]

I already named some obvious ones. If you can't read, I can't help you.

PS - At least I own a ranch. You can't bet what you don't have, so your wager is worth as much as your credibility:  ZERO. 

Jul 13, 2005 10:59 am

[quote=Roger Thornhill]

I already named some obvious ones. If you can't read, I can't help you.

PS - At least I own a ranch. You can't bet what you don't have, so your wager is worth as much as your credibility:  ZERO. 

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For those who are keeping score.  Stan has asked, again and again, for Roger to explain what he says and he has yet to do so.  A person with an answer would not write, "I already named some obvious ones..." they would say, "Well, I already did but maybe you missed them so here they are again......"

That can't happen when there was nothing to begin with.

I too have asked him several questions.  With me he was more direct, he even admits that he is simply ignoring the questions.

Why do you think that a guy who is bragging about how smart he is refuses to answer simple questions like I was asking?  I suggest it is because there are no answers.

Then there is the odd series of comments following my discussion of the laws written in the early 1930s.

I read that last night while walking with my wife in Central Park.  Her comment is well taken--she asked, "Are they so stupid that they don't realize that you've been doing this all your life--and that you've been writing about that stuff since before we moved here?"  Then later she added, "I've been thinking about how what you write is so good that it looks like a textbook--where do they think textbooks come from if not from people's minds?"

Then finally as we were riding the elevator she said, "I can't believe I'm still thinking about it, but it pisses me off that people dont' realize how smart you are.......if you had written something like that about a topic you don't know anything about I'd say you plagerized it.  But like Dick told you a couple of years ago, you've taken full advantage of all those different things they had you do."

She then added, with that wise acre grin she does so well, "And because I was with you on a lot of them you came across much better than you really are."