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Jul 2, 2005 4:17 pm

I was curious what political affiliation financial advisors are involved with..


Maybe it is better to be in the middle or FLIP FLOP to the audience like John Kerry!

Jul 2, 2005 5:23 pm

Brokers are Republicans, planners are Dummycraps.


Republicans seek their own success, Dummycraps try to legislate success.

Jul 2, 2005 6:26 pm

Repulican here.  Located in a blue state, but the county that I live in always votes 80% + republican.  I don't talk polictics with my clients, however.   Just to be on the safe side.


Here is an interesting test you might want to take.  I ended up right near Mitlon Friedman


http://www.politicalcompass.org/


Jul 2, 2005 7:18 pm

I, also, do not make a point to discuss politics with my clients. However, if they ask, I tell them I'm Libertarian.


Here is another political quiz:


http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

Jul 2, 2005 7:20 pm

I ended up near George W. Bush.

Jul 3, 2005 1:37 pm

Wasn't there a Money magazine article before the election saying that Democrats normally have higher returns on the s&p 500 compared to republicans.  Something like 10% more.   Not sure - but I did remember reading it because the numbers where a surprise since Republicans like to claim that they are better for business etc.


Anywho I vote for the better candidate - I never cared for W because of what he did against McCane back in 2000 primaries.


So I voted democrat in both 2000 and 2004 - but being from chicago area - voting republican would have been pointless anyway.


Jul 3, 2005 2:28 pm
Juiced6:

Wasn't there a Money magazine article before the
election saying that Democrats normally have higher returns on the
s&p 500 compared to republicans.  Something like 10%
more.   Not sure - but I did remember reading it because the
numbers where a surprise since Republicans like to claim that they
are better for business etc.


Anywho I vote for the better candidate - I never cared for W because of what he did against McCane back in 2000 primaries.


So I voted democrat in both 2000 and 2004 - but being from chicago area - voting republican would have been pointless anyway.






Let me see if I have this right.  You admired a
Republican--Senator McCain--who was involved in an intense political
fight with another Republican--President Bush--so you voted for a
Democrat.



And to think there are those who believe that universal sufferage is a stupid idea.

Jul 3, 2005 3:14 pm

Just to add to what put trader said...McCain is a traitor to his party and is not to be trusted.

Jul 3, 2005 9:46 pm

I am a Repub in a Demo city which sucks. To be safe I also try avoid talking politics with clients.

Jul 4, 2005 4:57 am

I think most brokers/planners are more interested in economics, than politics. Who has not felt the thrill of the 90's, depression in 2000, pain after 9/11? I just took a trip to ground zero, looked down at the site from the offices at Oppenheimer. Look how the world economy was devastated, rebounded, and what might happen, good or bad, and how that affects our clients. It's not about red or blue, but I have a pretty good idea on who I trust to keep the world economy alive!

Jul 4, 2005 8:50 am

How any financial advisor can reconcile his career of trying to make
people more money with the Democratic Party's never-ending attempts to
steal money from the people who earn it is beyond me.  It makes no
sense at all.



Democrats are morons.



All during the economic slowdown of 2001 and 2002 Democrats wanted to
RAISE taxes.  At every step they fought to RAISE taxes--our taxes.



I like to ask Democrat voters, "how does raising taxes help stimulate
the economy and create needed jobs?"  Typically, they don't have
an answer.  They are flustered, and their deficiency of brain
cells shows.  The few who do have an answer say stuff like, "well,
we only want to raise taxes on the RICH."  Uh huh.  There
aren't that many rich people to begin with--not nearly enough for the
Democrat fools to create cradle-to-grave welfare benefits so no one
will ever have to work.  And the money that would have been spent
on "yachts", like most Democrat morons insist, would have actually
created jobs.  Yachts don't magically appear out of thin air, you
know. 



Have you ever noticed that the very first place Democrats go when they
do their vote drives are the housing projects?  It's true. 
You'll find no shortage of Democratic voters in a welfare housing
project (of those who aren't too lazy to actually vote).  "If the
Republicans get elected, you'll have to get a job," they'll tell the
welfare parasites.  Oh my!  Imagine the horror on the face of
the 19-year-old welfare momma who is counting on the Democrats to give
her free cash and free housing--in a luxury town house, no less--for
the next 18 years.  Imagine the horror on the face of the
60-year-old welfare grandma who has never worked a day in her miserable
life.



Liberal kooks, welfare parasites, and lazy union workers--that is what
comprises the modern Democratic Party.  If you look at the red
states-blue states map, you'll see that in most of the red AND blue
states, the urban cores voted Democrat while most of the rest of the
area voted Republican.  (One main exception being MA.)



And to no surprise, the inner-cities--which are most heavily
Democrat--are nothing but crime-ridden, poverty-laden hellholes of
violence, crime, urban decay, grafitti, and garbage-strewn
streets.  What?  Welfare momma can't get off her lazy ass and
pull herself away from taxpayer-provided cable TV and pick up some
trash in her neighborhood?



Both crime and taxes are highest in the Democrat-controlled
cities.  Makes sense, huh?  Invite the welfare parasites
in--who vote for Democrats--and then tax the working class out--who
vote for Republicans.  What a way to stack the deck in your favor!



Take a drive through the most loyally Democratic areas sometime.  It's a different world...  It really is.



If I had to guess, I'd say that 75%-90% of the people who work in this
industry are Conservative.  With the exception, of course, of the
"elites" in management. 



http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/electoral.c ollege/

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/



Thank god that childish a-hole John Kerry didn't get elected!  How
can anyone vote for someone who attained wealth by marrying it--TWICE?

Jul 4, 2005 9:06 am
fargo:

It's not about red or blue, but I have a pretty good
idea on who I trust to keep the world economy alive!





Stock markets all over the world were up after Bush was
re-elected,  including here in the USA.  And I do mean all
over the world.



9/11, massive corporate fraud (mostly committed during the Clinton
years), bursting of the tech bubble, it has been a challenging 4 years
for President Bush.  Hopefully, he'll be able to enjoy the fruits
of his labor this term.  Unfortunately, Democrats will try to
derail that any chance they get.  (Americans are Nazis, didn't you
know?  We shut off the air conditioning in Guantanamo--oh
no!  How cruel!)



And as for Iraq, Bush did NOT lie.  The only people lying are the
Democrats.  Clinton said that Iraq had WMDs and was trying to
obtain nukes back in 1998.  Too bad the leftist media doesn't ever
mention that.



http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/



How come Democrats never discuss Clinton's statements on Iraq from
December of 1998--2 YEARS before Bush was even elected???  Oh, but
Bush lied--he fabricated the entire thing.  Right, Democrats?



By the way, folks, Bush won Florida 2000 fair and square, too.  It
was the Democrats who tried to steal the 2000 election.  And they
did nothing but spread lies of "voting irregularities" in 2004,
too.  Voting irregularities?  Kind of vague, isn't it? 



Oh, they mean that minorities had to wait in line to vote. 



Well guess what.  I live in a 90% white area, and I had to wait in
a long line to vote, too.  That's what happens when everybody
tries to get in before work.  Good thing the polls are open until
8 PM, huh?



http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/m ain.html



By the way, why is it that ONLY Democrat voters are too stupid to vote properly?

Jul 4, 2005 10:39 am

Inquistive- Come on man, Bush didn't lie???  I don't even want to take the time to blow that up..... It's pretty obvious that you are as oblivious as you accuse the Democrats of being....

Jul 4, 2005 10:56 am
noggin:

Inquistive- Come on man, Bush didn't lie???  I don't
even want to take the time to blow that up..... It's pretty obvious
that you are as oblivious as you accuse the Democrats of
being....





What did Bush say?  Ah yes, he said that Iraq had WMDs and was
seeking nukes.  Where oh where did he ever get that idea
from?  Maybe from the previous administration???



http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/



Dec. 16, 1998, President Bill Clinton said:



"Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the
world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons."


"Earlier today I ordered America's armed forces to strike
military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces."


"Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological
weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors."


Now, what did BUSH say that Clinton did not say years prior?


There isn't a thing that Bush said that Clinton didn't say. 
Further, no President, nor any mortal man, can look into the future and
decide what to do today.  You work with what you've got. 
Whether the intelligence is flawed or not, you must decide whether or
not to act upon it.


I don't think the intelligence was flawed.  Why not? 
Because much of the UN believed that Saddam was in possession of
chemical weapons.  OTHER nations like Great Britain and Germany
believed that Saddam was in possession of WMDs, and the UN believed
that Saddam was seeking nuclear weapons.


Let's compare Bush to Clinton, shall we?


* Clinton gave the Chinese critical missile guidance technology so
they could aim their nuclear warheads against us in exchange for
campaign contributions


* Clinton gave the North Koreans a nuclear reactor so they could make material for nuclear bombs--which they promised not to do


* Clinton treated terrorist attacks like the 1993 World Trade Center
bombing as simple, criminal acts instead of the acts of war that they
are, enabling the terrorists to become more brazen


By the way, back in the summer of 2004, Clinton defended Bush's invasion of Iraq.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/


Now, go ahead.  Try to persuade us that Bush lied.  It's your turn.

Jul 4, 2005 10:59 am

C'mon, guys!  Aren't you any more cynical than that?  They're all scum...Democrat and Republican.  ANY of them would come out in favor of cancer if they thought there was a vote in it.  Having the citizenry snipe at each other simply allows the two parties to cut up the pie without us!

Jul 4, 2005 11:11 am

Starka, I don't believe that.



There are still some honest, decent people out there.  I consider
myself one of them.  I've also flirted with the idea of running
for local government because I don't like some of the crap I see.



Would I take a position contrary to my beliefs because someone made some contributions to my campaign?  NO. 



Would I listen to what other people had to say, whether they be a corporation, lobbyist, or just a regular citizen?  YES.



(Would I knowingly recommend an unsuitable investment because it paid me more?  HELL NO!)



Politicians aren't experts at everything.  Part of what they have
to do is listen to people.  So a lobbyist talks to a
politician.  So what?  Proves nothing.  I'm more than
willing to listen to what someone has to say, even if I initially
disagree with them.  Who knows.  Maybe they'll have a
convincing argument.



By the way, folks, those CNN cites I provided I found by doing a quick
Google.  Search for Clinton + Iraq and you'll find plenty. 
It's amazing how some people pretend that things that were said a few
years back were never said.  Fortunately, CNN has archived their
old news stories for us.

Jul 4, 2005 11:16 am

Inquisitive, I'm not impugning your honor.  But consider...if you're the one honest person in a tainted field like politics, how far do you think you'll get?  Further, one doesn't rise to national politics without compromising his/her values to the point that they can't recognize them anymore.  This is certainly not what Washington, Jefferson, Adams et al had in mind.

Jul 4, 2005 1:28 pm

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm


There you go - a nice video of Powell in Feb 2001 and Rice in July 2001 saying Iraq has no WMD or is capable of making them.


Bush did not lie?  His own team said Iraq did not have them in 2001 - that was after Clinton.



Now Tony Blair has said the Downing Street Memo is an authentic memo - I think if democrats get control of congress in 2006 - Bush is looking at impeachment.


I also would like to know how McCain is a traitor? 

Jul 4, 2005 8:47 pm

Hey ladies and gents.. Amazes me that educated people do not accept the professional Bull Sh.t that others who are educated by Hollywood want to hear ......(Reid, Boxer, Kerry and Kennedy).

We won and are ahead in every aspect of government. I guess integrity goes a long way..


I always question if a thousand extreme muslims with guns are a WMD? I mean two DC snipers had 40 million Americans scared to death.


As for me I live in CT and work in DC. Both are the center of the bs..



Jul 4, 2005 11:16 pm

In 2002 the dems pushed hard to sign a bill supporting IRAQ war once again..



Three reasons stated in bill were:
1. Terrorists in IRAQ


2. WMD in IRAQ


3.



Now they all play stupid to play to the welfare/state/federal/ union workers who believe every word they and hollywood state.



WATCH FAHERHYPE 9/11... Its amazing what a dis justice skum of the earth Michael Moore did to this country.. Those who want to believe will find a way...