Diversification trips
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You are the idiot. Saying you get an extra 64% is like saying that you get all 100% of your paycheck every month. You can say the payouts better, but really all we are trading is the trip to the post office to hand that 60% over to the local bill collectors. While you are running around paying bills, or paying someone else MORE money to do it, were letting Jones do it.[/quote] You used the 100% number. YOU. [/quote] Buddy 36% and 64% is 100%. When someone says, "Jones guys give up 64%", they are saying Indy's are getting 100%. You don't have to literally say 100%, to mean that.[quote=Ronnie Dobbs][quote=bspears]Spiffy is drunk on koolaid. He’s the real idiot. Giving up 64% to rub elbows with people who he wants to be, but those people are fakes.
He isn’t saying he gets 100%. He isn’t saying he gets an extra 64% either. He was talking strictly about what you give up at Jones.
[quote=Ron 14][quote=Ronnie Dobbs]It’s not actually. Sure, you may get a bit more, but to come on here and brag that you get 100%, or even 60% after you pay all your bills is retarded.[/QUOTE]
He wasn't bragging about getting 100% dipsh*t. He was just referring to the 65% that Jones takes. [/quote] You don't think it is possible for Indy's to make 60%? Unbelievable.I do find that hard to believe, but thats my opinion. I’m not Indy, so I don’t know. Just doesn’t make sense to me thats all.
Gross $20,000 in a month -$2000 Rent -$500 Utilities -$1500 Assistant Pay -Supplies -Licenses, Fees, Ticket Charges & other expenses I'm just saying I know they make more, just hard to believe they make THAT much more.Once again, you have put your keen intellect to work and come up with the wrong conclusion.
Why is rent $2000? I’ll tell you why - Jones puts on your P & L a rent amount that they don’t pay. How do I know this? Well, for one I’m independent and actually sign the lease. The second reason is that while I was at Jones, I happen to ask the landlord (who became a client and still is after the move) what my rent was. Try a full $800 less than what was on the P & L.
I’ve posted how much it would cost for me to have a setup like Jones. 80%+ payout. It’s hard to believe because you’ve swallowed all of the kool-aid.
$500 for utilities?
Also, who needs a full-time assistant if you are just going to run a one person office.
License fees aren’t that much.
I'm not quoting it from my P & L. I've talked to the landlord and have a great relationship with them. In fact, when I was office searching prior, the rent was more than $2000 for the other space and thats the quote I received from the landlord. Not what Jones told me. It's not quoted any higher than what it is on my screen. I'm not sure what you are talking about.
Why is rent $2000? I’ll tell you why - Jones puts on your P & L a rent amount that they don’t pay. How do I know this? Well, for one I’m independent and actually sign the lease. The second reason is that while I was at Jones, I happen to ask the landlord (who became a client and still is after the move) what my rent was. Try a full $800 less than what was on the P & L.
Only my pride when I have to fork over a few bucks to the boyscouts standing in front of the bank. How much did you need for your webelos finance badge again?He swallows more than kool-aid
[quote=Ronnie Dobbs]I do find that hard to believe, but thats my opinion. I’m not Indy, so I don’t know. Just doesn’t make sense to me thats all.
Gross $20,000 in a month -$2000 Rent -$500 Utilities -$1500 Assistant Pay -Supplies -Licenses, Fees, Ticket Charges & other expenses I'm just saying I know they make more, just hard to believe they make THAT much more.[/quote] Using this math the amount would come out to exactly 60%. $20,000 gross minus the first three expenses leaves you with $16,000. Supplies and other fees probably run $2,000 a month tops depending on how many trades you do. If you're grossing only $20,000 then its probably not much. That leaves about $14,000 net. Subtract 10% of the original amount for indy haircut (estimation) and you're left w/exactly $12,000 of the original $20,000. And thats grossing only $240,000 for a year, which is pretty low for indy standards.Only my pride when I have to fork over a few bucks to the boyscouts standing in front of the bank. How much did you need for your webelos finance badge again?[/quote] It hurts your pride to give a few bucks to charity? You are a bigger jag off than I thought.[quote=Ron 14]He swallows more than kool-aid
No, I give plenty. It only hurts my pride when I have to give it to a grown ass man dressed up in a boyscout outfit outside the bank begging for money, pretending to be an advisor:).
I'm not quoting it from my P & L. I've talked to the landlord and have a great relationship with them. In fact, when I was office searching prior, the rent was more than $2000 for the other space and thats the quote I received from the landlord. Not what Jones told me. It's not quoted any higher than what it is on my screen. I'm not sure what you are talking about.[/quote] How big is your office? That seems like a lot for where your office is located... I'm not asking to be a prick, I am genuinely interested...[quote=Moraen]
Why is rent $2000? I’ll tell you why - Jones puts on your P & L a rent amount that they don’t pay. How do I know this? Well, for one I’m independent and actually sign the lease. The second reason is that while I was at Jones, I happen to ask the landlord (who became a client and still is after the move) what my rent was. Try a full $800 less than what was on the P & L.
[quote=Ronnie Dobbs][quote=Moraen]Why is rent $2000? I’ll tell you why - Jones puts on your P & L a rent amount that they don’t pay. How do I know this? Well, for one I’m independent and actually sign the lease. The second reason is that while I was at Jones, I happen to ask the landlord (who became a client and still is after the move) what my rent was. Try a full $800 less than what was on the P & L.
I’m not quoting it from my P & L. I’ve talked to the landlord and have a great relationship with them. In fact, when I was office searching prior, the rent was more than $2000 for the other space and thats the quote I received from the landlord. Not what Jones told me. It’s not quoted any higher than what it is on my screen. I’m not sure what you are talking about.[/quote]
How big is your office? That seems like a lot for where your office is located…
I’m not asking to be a prick, I am genuinely interested…[/quote]
I think so also. I know that area. My aunt and uncle live near there. I have another uncle who works probably 3 miles from Windy’s office. $2000 seems a little steep.
[quote=SometimesNowhere] [quote=Ronnie Dobbs][quote=Moraen]Why is rent $2000? I’ll tell you why - Jones puts on your P & L a rent amount that they don’t pay. How do I know this? Well, for one I’m independent and actually sign the lease. The second reason is that while I was at Jones, I happen to ask the landlord (who became a client and still is after the move) what my rent was. Try a full $800 less than what was on the P & L.
I'm not quoting it from my P & L. I've talked to the landlord and have a great relationship with them. In fact, when I was office searching prior, the rent was more than $2000 for the other space and thats the quote I received from the landlord. Not what Jones told me. It's not quoted any higher than what it is on my screen. I'm not sure what you are talking about.[/quote]
How big is your office? That seems like a lot for where your office is located..
I'm not asking to be a prick, I am genuinely interested...[/quote]
I think so also. I know that area. My aunt and uncle live near there. I have another uncle who works probably 3 miles from Windy's office. $2000 seems a little steep.[/quote] Here's a pretty good listing. 4 large offices, a kitchen and a lobby for only $1,400 per month? Sounds like quite a deal to me. http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/off/1406928024.html
3rd - That must be ghetto country. Any decent listing around here isn’t gonna be less than $1,800. My office is 1200 sqf. The listing for $2,300 was for 900 sqf. It depends on where your office is located. Mine’s right on a major road, as well as in the middle of alot of new business/residential construction.
Wow. The only way I am paying that much for any space that's not my house is if it's a Champagne Room in some establishment that has the word "Gentleman" in the name.3rd - That must be ghetto country. Any decent listing around here isn’t gonna be less than $1,800. My office is 1200 sqf. The listing for $2,300 was for 900 sqf. It depends on where your office is located. Mine’s right on a major road, as well as in the middle of alot of new business/residential construction.
[quote=SometimesNowhere]
Wow. The only way I am paying that much for any space that's not my house is if it's a Champagne Room in some establishment that has the word "Gentleman" in the name. [/quote][quote=Ronnie Dobbs]It really bothers me that you haven’t even opened an account, got fired from Jones, lied to a prospect and you honestly come on here giving advice and participate in conversation. Thats like a guy who enrolls in college, gets kicked out before classes start, then goes home and talks about his “partying” days in college. WTF, seriously?[/quote]
Based on the abuse you took, I’m beginning to believe my opinions are more respected than yours…although, I admit, that’s not saying much.
But, speaking of being ripped-off on your P&L, I’m curious how much Jones reps get hit on their P&L for the server/satellite system. A Jones office could be run on two $400 desktops with the BOA’s desktop acting as a server.
To put a server in a ventilated cabinet in a 2 person office is ridiculous. It is enough to support a 24+ person office.
[quote=Still@jones]
I’m beginning to believe my opinions are more respected than yours… [/quote]
I’m hated because i like to talk sh*t…You’re hated because you can’t keep a job, lie to your clients, and suck in general. There’s a difference.