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Dec 17, 2008 4:44 pm

[quote=IndyEDJ]

Knowing both parties, It would be an interesting conversation.  Problem is that most EDJ brokers do not meet minimum production requirements for RayJay. ($250M Gross)  I would love to see it happen.   IndyEDJ   [/quote]

Wait, what? The minimum requirement for RJ is a T12 greater than $250k... (to be an independent contractor)

RJ is an awesome indy platform for all types of brokers, from the seasoned veterans to those who need training wheels for the conversion.
Dec 17, 2008 5:12 pm

[quote=SuperRecruiter] [quote=IndyEDJ]

Knowing both parties, It would be an interesting conversation.  Problem is that most EDJ brokers do not meet minimum production requirements for RayJay. ($250M Gross)  I would love to see it happen.   IndyEDJ  [/quote]

Wait, what? The minimum requirement for RJ is a T12 greater than $250k... (to be an independent contractor)

RJ is an awesome indy platform for all types of brokers, from the seasoned veterans to those who need training wheels for the conversion.
[/quote]   I agree, RJ is a great platform for all types of brokers. 
Dec 17, 2008 5:15 pm

Uh oh, we now have a Super Recruiter and a Broker Recruiter.  Wonder if they are going to throw down??

Dec 17, 2008 10:45 pm
  I agree, RJ is a great platform for all types of brokers.  [/quote]   Really, what about a broker doing a lot of transactional business and VA's? High ticket charges and a VA haircut policy don't make for a great platform, Mr. Broker Recruiter.
Dec 18, 2008 3:19 pm
duster10:

Uh oh, we now have a Super Recruiter and a Broker Recruiter.  Wonder if they are going to throw down??

  I didn't know I would get the recruiters so excited with my comments.    To get your own branch you need $250K a year and 100K if you join forces with another branch.  FYI.   IndyEDJ  5 years at Ray Jay  
Dec 18, 2008 3:22 pm

[quote=IndyEDJ]

  I didn't know I would get the recruiters so excited with my comments.    To get your own branch you need $250K a year and 100K if you join forces with another branch.  FYI.   IndyEDJ  5 years at Ray Jay  [/quote]

We're like sharks... we can smell the blood from miles away.

And yes, what he said. $100k and you can go be some other guy's gopher boy at an existing RJ branch.
Dec 18, 2008 3:31 pm

[quote=SuperRecruiter]

[quote=IndyEDJ]

  I didn't know I would get the recruiters so excited with my comments.    To get your own branch you need $250K a year and 100K if you join forces with another branch.  FYI.   IndyEDJ  5 years at Ray Jay  [/quote]

We're like sharks... we can smell the blood from miles away.

And yes, what he said. $100k and you can go be some other guy's gopher boy at an existing RJ branch.
[/quote]

Isn't RJ the firm that cut annuity commissions to appear more ethical? What happened to the overage?
Dec 18, 2008 4:10 pm

I moved from RJFS to Harbor Financial Services about a year ago but still clear through RJA.  My client’s account numbers didn’t change and all my screen and research are the same…my password didn’t even change.  I pay a flat fee to Harbor to be the B/D and the same ticket charges I paid at RJFS.  The old VA’s are back including the L-share.  There are 42 correspondent firms that clear through RJA.  It’s a better program for me.

Dec 18, 2008 6:06 pm

uwec, what did you lose? What is the tradeoff? I’m very happy w/ RJ, but am getting raped on the discounted advisory fees on Passport compared with the 90% the older programs pay. I take the discount, and RJ doesn’t.

  Not looking to move, but if there's a better way to maximize payout, I'd be interested.
Dec 18, 2008 6:08 pm

[quote=Hank Moody] [quote=SuperRecruiter] [quote=IndyEDJ]

  I didn't know I would get the recruiters so excited with my comments.    To get your own branch you need $250K a year and 100K if you join forces with another branch.  FYI.   IndyEDJ  5 years at Ray Jay  [/quote]

We're like sharks... we can smell the blood from miles away.

And yes, what he said. $100k and you can go be some other guy's gopher boy at an existing RJ branch.
[/quote]

Isn't RJ the firm that cut annuity commissions to appear more ethical? What happened to the overage?
[/quote]   They made the annuity companies reprice the products, so there was no haircut that the firm kept. They just mandated what the insurance companies could charge, and the advisor took the cut in pay. Using C shares eliminates this "haircut," and makes it more like an advisory fee anyway in my book.    
Dec 18, 2008 6:24 pm

The only thing you would give up is the OMAR stuff…that’s it!  The old B-share annuities are back and the L-share is back.  You pay a flat fee to Harbor and the break-even is about 130k assuming you only do 90% payout products…less if you sell more stocks and bonds.  I’ve been there over a year and I’m very happy about the move and it was very easy on my clients because their accounts don’t change and the statements are the same (except for the logo).  The clients don’t even get two 1099’s in the year you move…it’s all the same.  The routing of SOME paperwork is different but for the most part you continue to call the same RJ dept. you called in the past.

Dec 18, 2008 6:37 pm

Uwec do you have the same Advisor Resouce Console as other RJ reps?

Dec 18, 2008 6:56 pm

It’s exactly the same screens…100%

Dec 18, 2008 11:47 pm

I second that…

Thanks for the great info UWEC...While i'm not looking at this time it's always good to have a plan B in place.
Dec 19, 2008 3:48 am

I’ll be happy to discuss the process of moving to an RJ “correspondent” firm.  It’s very easy…form 1021 and a new account form for each acct.  All other setting including the account numbers stay the same.  RJFS does not get in the way at any point.

Dec 20, 2008 3:33 pm

Did anyone else catch Danny Ludeman’s comment (during his hour long conference call on Friday) about RJ? How he is personally friends with their CEO and if they are forced to settle the auction rate securities then they are screwed?

Dec 20, 2008 3:41 pm

[quote=Reggin]Did anyone else catch Danny Ludeman’s comment (during his hour long conference call on Friday) about RJ? How he is personally friends with their CEO and if they are forced to settle the auction rate securities then they are screwed?[/quote]

No idea about this, but UBS and Morgan settled for 30 billion recently, and apparently Tom James has said RJ’s liability would be about a billion, which would be trouble for RJ.

Dec 20, 2008 5:02 pm

 Ludeman is getting tired of losing FC’s to RJ.  Ludeman has been saying since he took over AGE how the regional firms are all going to go away and can not compete.  Hello Danny!  WS is gone and all the regional firms he was knocking are still there.  The guy is a moron.

Dec 20, 2008 8:27 pm
Fortune1:

Ludeman is getting tired of losing FC’s to RJ. Ludeman has been saying since he took over AGE how the regional firms are all going to go away and can not compete. Hello Danny! WS is gone and all the regional firms he was knocking are still there. The guy is a moron.



Maybe he is a moron, maybe not. That has no bearing on the 1BIL in liability of those auction rates if they settle.
Dec 20, 2008 8:53 pm

[quote=Fortune1] Ludeman is getting tired of losing FC’s to RJ.  Ludeman has been saying since he took over AGE how the regional firms are all going to go away and can not compete.  Hello Danny!  WS is gone and all the regional firms he was knocking are still there.  The guy is a moron.[/quote]

Fat lady is still singing We will see how things shake out in the next couple of years