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Dec 18, 2007 2:33 pm

[quote=compliancejerk]thank you Miss Jones (I really mean it)

Yep I'm a Compliance Jerk I admit it. Yes I have a grudge against your employer. I also have a problem with people blindly following others. Look what it got Mrs. Jim Jones!! quote from  Advisorman, " Also you Indy guys (and I mean some not all) take the cake for being self-righteous."  Talk about the pot calling the kettle black ... an Jonestown inhabitant calling others self-righteous.    Advisorman....yep you're a legend in your own mind.  Your are a newbie poster with 41 posts and the people that run this forum provide a wonderful search tool to search by topic or poster ..... how simple is that?[/quote]

So you're presuming because he has 41 posts under this name that he's a newbie poster?
Dec 18, 2007 3:28 pm

[quote=MISS JONES]Advisorman- Brian and whomever this applies…

  I think the key to the EDJ bashers is to just not give a shit what they say. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I have just decided that it isn't going to change the way I look at my firm. I know that everyone walks away from an experience with a different vantage point. I couldn't care less if eveyone on this board hated EDJ. Their views and opinions don't effect me!   Try and not let it bother you. Who cares what Compliance Jerk says.. He was a jerk to me not so long ago and then we PM'ed back and forth and have no issues now.. He is after all a self proclaimed JERK! You know what you are getting when a guy lists his screen name like that.. He used to work at Jones and has issues with them.. Guess what? He is entitled to them.. - Like I said before.. Who cares? I sure don't!   Miss J[/quote]   Miss Jones,   I agree there is nothing I am going to say that is going to change their behavior but as they run more people off the forum with their "Hate" and "Belittle" message I think we have to at least say stop. I would really respect their opinion and if done with respect for others I do. I think the ones that have gone Indy are great. I have been self employed most of my life and it has many benefits but there are also benefits working at Edward Jones too. I will do what I can to not respond to jerks but I am not going to let them run new people off just because they work for Edward Jones.
Dec 18, 2007 3:46 pm

These posts sound a lot like, what was her name, Nancy, or something like that.  All about hate and bullies and how our opinions belittle others.  Advisorman, when someone calls us losers for leaving the cult, we have the right to defend ourselves.  I guess someone calling us losers isn’t hate speech.  You sound like a typical liberal, if you disagree with me that’s your choice, but if I disagree with you then I’m being hateful and close-minded. 42 posts in 4 days = 10 per day.  You really need to be working and making sales so you can get paid 38% because if you don’t you’ll end up on goals and then we know where you’ll be.  Go back to work and stop trying to defend someone who walked into the fray.  If Brian is in fact a long time reader, he knows what types of responses he would get, because they’ve been posted before.  Maybe Brian is bspears and just wanted to get the fur flying again. Bspears, shame on you for having fun at other peoples expense.  I feel better now, goodbye!!

Dec 18, 2007 3:52 pm

[quote=advisorman][quote=MISS JONES]Advisorman- Brian and whomever this applies…

  I think the key to the EDJ bashers is to just not give a shit what they say. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I have just decided that it isn't going to change the way I look at my firm. I know that everyone walks away from an experience with a different vantage point. I couldn't care less if eveyone on this board hated EDJ. Their views and opinions don't effect me!   Try and not let it bother you. Who cares what Compliance Jerk says.. He was a jerk to me not so long ago and then we PM'ed back and forth and have no issues now.. He is after all a self proclaimed JERK! You know what you are getting when a guy lists his screen name like that.. He used to work at Jones and has issues with them.. Guess what? He is entitled to them.. - Like I said before.. Who cares? I sure don't!   Miss J[/quote]   Miss Jones,   I agree there is nothing I am going to say that is going to change their behavior but as they run more people off the forum with their "Hate" and "Belittle" message I think we have to at least say stop. I would really respect their opinion and if done with respect for others I do. I think the ones that have gone Indy are great. I have been self employed most of my life and it has many benefits but there are also benefits working at Edward Jones too. I will do what I can to not respond to jerks but I am not going to let them run new people off just because they work for Edward Jones.[/quote]  
Dec 18, 2007 3:58 pm

Hey…now wait.  I have no horse in this race.  I run under one name and one name only…BSPEARS (the great)…I could go on and on and on about the whole righteousness issue but choose not to…to busy with other things.  I can only add…Jones sucks…IMHO

Dec 18, 2007 4:02 pm

[quote=compliancejerk][quote=advisorman][quote=MISS JONES]Advisorman- Brian and whomever this applies…

  I think the key to the EDJ bashers is to just not give a shit what they say. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I have just decided that it isn't going to change the way I look at my firm. I know that everyone walks away from an experience with a different vantage point. I couldn't care less if eveyone on this board hated EDJ. Their views and opinions don't effect me!   Try and not let it bother you. Who cares what Compliance Jerk says.. He was a jerk to me not so long ago and then we PM'ed back and forth and have no issues now.. He is after all a self proclaimed JERK! You know what you are getting when a guy lists his screen name like that.. He used to work at Jones and has issues with them.. Guess what? He is entitled to them.. - Like I said before.. Who cares? I sure don't!   Miss J[/quote]   Miss Jones,   I agree there is nothing I am going to say that is going to change their behavior but as they run more people off the forum with their "Hate" and "Belittle" message I think we have to at least say stop. I would really respect their opinion and if done with respect for others I do. I think the ones that have gone Indy are great. I have been self employed most of my life and it has many benefits but there are also benefits working at Edward Jones too. I will do what I can to not respond to jerks but I am not going to let them run new people off just because they work for Edward Jones.[/quote]   [/quote]    
Dec 18, 2007 4:28 pm

Advisorman- 

No one is running anyone off, but when someone such as yourself gets on here and starts spreading their regergitated BS, they are going to get called out and taken to task over it.   I am indy, but I don't start a post proclaiming how being indy is the best and if you choose to do it another way such as Jones, wire, bank, etc you wouldn't or couldn't  cut it as Indy anyway. --- you see that is obserd!   If I did say that I would get taken to task the same way you have been taken to task here. And, If spears, Indyone, joe, etc came in and tried to defend me, they would get taken to the woodshed as well.   Alot of us (Jones and ex-jones alike) poke each other.  Take Spiff for example, we probably disagree on alot as it involves jones, which I might add is mostly a matter of opinion. - (I am sure there is a thread on here somewhere of us going at it a time or two) Spiff is still at jones and defends them for the most part where warranted, but when something is truly crap he does not touch it, let alone defend it.   In fact that seems evident in his lack of posting on this particular topic, but I don't want to put words in his mouth, so spiff, please pipe up if I am wrong.   You see when you keep regergitating the same crap that myself and everyone who was at jones before you heard at every regional meeting/pow wow regarding how good the koolaid is and how those that left "just couldn't make it at jones" which is what my regional leader and his cronies said about every broker that left to go elsewhere, including the segment 4 guy that was in a leadership position in our region at the time he left; you lose all credibility and moreso look like the village idiot.   Have a great day.
Dec 18, 2007 7:06 pm

It seems to me that a logical person would work at an employer when their marginal benefit exceeded their marginal cost. 

  As long as you are getting more out of your employer than your employer is getting out of you, you should be happy.   Of course, some people are just ignorant. They assume that everything in life is one size fits all; that all decisions are black and white. What is best for one person is ultimately  best for everybody.  Peoples decisions are based on logic, although logical reasoning is subjective.   Some advisors put every client into the same product. One size fits all. Is anybody who does differently wrong?   Some people are naive and it causes them to stereotype an entire race, industry, or company.   Arguing ones point serves one or both of two basic end desires: to strengthen ones view or to change someone elses.  To some, it is only possible to confirm their own decisions by getting others to agree with them.   It appears that the topic of EJ is therapeutic for some.    
Dec 18, 2007 7:22 pm

I can’t believe anyone would say I’m arrogant. I am one of the nicest guys I know. If you don’t believe me ask my mom, wife, kids, and dog. They all think I am great!

  Merry Christmas Brian.
Dec 18, 2007 9:41 pm

Merry Christmas to you Brian and your family!  That being said–if your purpose was to start your first post going on the attack–congrats, you did it!  I’m glad you are happy at Edward Jones,  I was there a long time–I’m happy that I left and you and advisorman are happy you are there.  See we are all happy! 

   
Dec 18, 2007 9:45 pm

ME         Jones

Dec 19, 2007 1:28 am

[quote=Roadhard]Merry Christmas to you Brian and your family!  That being said–if your purpose was to start your first post going on the attack–congrats, you did it!  I’m glad you are happy at Edward Jones,  I was there a long time–I’m happy that I left and you and advisorman are happy you are there.  See we are all happy! 

   [/quote]

So is that like getting a happy ending?
Dec 19, 2007 3:59 am

[quote=joedabrkr] [quote=Roadhard]Merry Christmas to you Brian and your family!  That being said–if your purpose was to start your first post going on the attack–congrats, you did it!  I’m glad you are happy at Edward Jones,  I was there a long time–I’m happy that I left and you and advisorman are happy you are there.  See we are all happy! 

   [/quote]

So is that like getting a happy ending?
[/quote]   That's good enough for me! But believe it or not my intentions weren't too start a big conflict and I guess I should have left the part out, about people that didn't make it at Jones. That's hindsight and now I know.   Sorry to anyone I offended. Brian