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Dec 16, 2007 2:43 pm

Brian…you must not be much of a producer, if the truth were known you probably got fired from AGE then tried going indy before the current technology that is used today then came along Jones. Yes you are thankful for them however, the GP’s and other sucka$$'s love your half truth story. I know of no one today who has a good indy business or a solid book at a wirehouse that would ever leave to go to Jones. What is the benefit to those of us that have made it to go to Jones. I recently spoke with a wanna be GP who recruits like crazy for them and I gave the entire directory of all the indys at my firm, phone #'s and emails. That was a year ago and the only people he has pulled in are the failures from wirehouses or banks. Brian you are leaving alot of money on the table over you lifetime. The place stinks and is shrinking brokerwise, they are in denial of the real world. The only thing constant in this world is change. The only thing that changes at Jones is a lower take home of pay. I’m embarrassed to tell people that I had once been an employee. Brian I will pray for you so that you get through depression and get on with your life.

Dec 16, 2007 4:03 pm

Thanks Outofjail.  I’m glad I’m not the lone voice to call out Jones.  That is why I report from outside the cult camp and will continue until I die or B spears dies.

Dec 16, 2007 6:01 pm

Edward Jones is just like any large company in that you have people that love the place ,who hate the place and others who see it as a company trying to be successful in a very competitive marketplace with all the good and bad that comes with it.

  The thing I like about EJ is that in most cases if you produce they leave you alone and you can make a very good living. Yes you have to go to your regional meetings but I do like meeting the new FAs and they might not always be the most educational but you do get a chance to see what EJ is doing to be competitive.   As far as the EJ haters and lovers if someone is polarized with either to much love or hate you have to discount what they say. No one person or company is perfect and life is what you make it. I prefer to do what I can to be a better advisor by reading these forums and if someone jumps on the love or hate bandwagon I just move onto the next topic.
Dec 16, 2007 7:09 pm
outofjail:

Brian…you must not be much of a producer, if the truth were known you probably got fired from AGE then tried going indy before the current technology that is used today then came along Jones. Yes you are thankful for them however, the GP’s and other sucka$$'s love your half truth story. I know of no one today who has a good indy business or a solid book at a wirehouse that would ever leave to go to Jones. What is the benefit to those of us that have made it to go to Jones. I recently spoke with a wanna be GP who recruits like crazy for them and I gave the entire directory of all the indys at my firm, phone #'s and emails. That was a year ago and the only people he has pulled in are the failures from wirehouses or banks. Brian you are leaving alot of money on the table over you lifetime. The place stinks and is shrinking brokerwise, they are in denial of the real world. The only thing constant in this world is change. The only thing that changes at Jones is a lower take home of pay. I’m embarrassed to tell people that I had once been an employee. Brian I will pray for you so that you get through depression and get on with your life.

  This is the kind of BS I don't understand. I asked a question and all of a sudden I am useless depressed peice of crap that can't think for myself.  I did make lots of money and did leave AGE because I WANTED to but you can't understand that so you make un-educated assumptions. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not!   I have more money than I ever dreamt I would have and more than enought to call it quits when I decide I don't like it anymore. I live my life for the love of helping my family and others and worshipping God so although money is necessary once you make it your god you are nothing more than a slave.   I'm sorry for thinking there was someone on here that could explain the bitterness towards Edward Jones. I am used to dealing with professionals and I have to say it surprises me that there are so many people on this forum that chose to act like 4 year olds.   Have a Merry Christmas! Brian   PS: Does anyone know if there is a forum where professional reps can share ideas?
Dec 16, 2007 7:42 pm

Brian,

  The Edward Jones haters are everywhere in this forum. My advise is to just not respond to them. 90% of the people on this forum are here to have real discussions but 10% are here to just bash Edward Jones no matter what the topic is.   You could be discussing the weather and they would find some way of blaming Edward Jones for it and then go on to blame Edward Jones for Global Warming.   What really bothers me more than anything is they can have their beef with Edward Jones but to start calling EVERYONE that works for or says anything positive about Edward Jones an idiot or loser is beyond me. This is when I realize that their mission is not to help but to somehow make them feel better by putting down others.
Dec 17, 2007 3:30 am

Thanks Advisorman, that is the best advice I’ve received. I’ve ignored them for a long time since I have been a long time reader of the forum and thought it was time to ask why they are so bitter. Now I realize they are like the kids in school that are so afraid of competition that they tell lies about the other kids to make themselves look better. (or feel better)

I am also starting to think these are people that couldn't make it at Edward Jones so they discourage others from working there.
Dec 17, 2007 4:21 am

Brian,

You post this and really want to know why people hate Jones.  How big was that office you took over?
Dec 17, 2007 1:38 pm

Really Brian,  Now I doubt if you did actually work at AG and if you really did make a lot of money because of your comments.  You sound more like a newby who just got hired out of college or from a used car lot.  Just because someone leaves Jones doesn’t mean we couldn’t make it there.  With that logic, it’s clear that because you left AG (if you really did) then you couldn’t make it there.  Many of us have left Jones and are extremely successful now as Indys because we got tired of being employees.  If you want to be an employee then have a nut, but that’s your choice.  You sound just like a GP wanna be…“Jones is the best…Better than the rest…If you don’t work for Jones, you don’t do what’s right for your clients…Jones is Best…Better than the rest…and we know it!!!”  So Brian, have a nice life as an employee of Edward Jones and enjoy giving 60+% of YOUR earnings to Jim Weddle and the crew.  I wish the best for you!!

Dec 17, 2007 1:57 pm

I just cannot believe this attitude.

  Brian made his own choices based on what he wanted to do. Do you realize when you question someones comments and in the last one accuse Brian of not telling the truth you are showing your own bias and insecurities.   What is wrong with leaving AG Edwards? Do you have to be a loser to leave? I don't think so.   Also what is wrong with joining Edward Jones? Do you have to be a loser if they hire you? Again there is nothing wrong with that.   All you people that accuse people of lying, of being stupid or being a loser because someone made their own choices based on their own needs and desire are the real losers. Your hate and distrust makes you into someone that really cannot be happy no matter how much you tell us all in these forums. How can someone be happy if all that comes out of their mouth is hate, accusations (based on someones question) and derogatory labels. Life is too short so find a new hobby beside "forum bashing" that is not so destructive. The rest of us would like to have discussions where we might find something enlightening and constructive.    
Dec 17, 2007 2:40 pm

Truce Boys and Girls, time to take a break…Brian you knew when you started the post it was going to be like this–if you didn’t then you lied when you said you have been following this forum.  When you open up a can or worms–don’t be surprise at all the dirt and worms you are going to find in the can.

Dec 17, 2007 3:01 pm

Roadhard,

  You declare a truce and then you accuse Brian of lying. You just do not get it.   He asked a FAIR question and then you you all decided he was fair game to find a way to destroy him. Brian is not the problem. It is you guys with your ability to call people liars when all they do is ask a question. If we all decide to STOP asking questions because someone like yourself is going to attack them personally this forum would die. I salute Brian for having the courage to ask.
Dec 17, 2007 3:51 pm

Fellas,

I smell a troll. Advisorman = Brian1960   Jones is what it is, but just like high school, people eventually outgrow them.... Although, I knew a few people that wished they could of stayed in high school forever.....  I guess that applies to Jones as well.....  To each his own.
Dec 17, 2007 4:00 pm

Fellas,

I smell a jackass. doneWjones = jackass   So how does it feel?   Did that make you feel good calling me a troll?   Is this how adults act?   Is this some game that a bunch of Jones haters act like they have some club they are all proud to be a member of?   You guys are an embarrassment and you need to move on with your life and forget about Edwards Jones.   So you all will know this is NOT Brian but I am someone that is so tired of this petty bashing that goes on in this forum.
Dec 17, 2007 4:30 pm

WOW,

It seems I have touched a nerve.    ... Is this how adults act?.... ha ha...   I simply said I smelled a troll, I did not outright call you one.  However, by your reaction it is obviose that you are a TROLL and I am sorry that I had to be the one to call you out, but it is too obvious not to.   So advisorbrian1960, have a wonderful day and please don't let me ruin it for you....  Now go sell some ICA... go on... back to work... TROLL!!!
Dec 17, 2007 4:56 pm

[quote=Spaceman Spiff]Man, Brian, do you always walk right up to that hornet’s nest and smack it as hard as you can? 

  Like I said, quote Spaceman Spiff--You opened yourself up!
Dec 17, 2007 5:00 pm

I just read the message calling advisorman a troll and I know why it upsets him so much because even if you don’t beleive it  we both know we are not the same person and it’s frustrating because there is no way to prove it.

  Right now I'm sorry I ever signed up for the forum because a few losers have made it useless. I was made to feel stupid for asking a simple question and when I was in school I was always taught that the only stupid question was the one NOT asked.   You guys go on believing what you want. To those of you that think I am leaving 60% on the table I applaud you for being able to operate a successful practice without ANY expenses. It must be great to receive 100% of your income and not pay any rent, utilities, wages. Gee I bet you are even exempt from income taxes.   I will go on being happy and you can chose to be bitter and it won't change a thing. I'm not going to put you out of business and all your complaining will not put Edward Jones out of business. To those of you that think no one that was successful would ever leave AGE it is apparent you don't realize how much that company has changed over the last few years. I'm not saying it's a bad company, it's just not where I want to be anymore. I also know there are many independents that are happy but I just wanted my life simpler and didn't want to take the time neccesary to keep qualified office staff and pay the expenses each month. Sure I'm leaving some money on the table but to me it's worth it. I understand if it's not worth it for you. Sometimes people are at different ages and priorities are different so I can relate to you not agreeing but I can at least respect your choices.   To advisorman: I wish you the best and good luck with these children on the forum. I'm sure if we knew each other we could be friends. (even if you are a troll) lol   Thanks and Merry Christmas to all ! Brian
Dec 17, 2007 5:01 pm

So if you smell a troll and then you imply that the troll is Brian and then you imply I am Brian then who are you smelling?

  Also who are the fellas?   I would love to see that list.   I also hope you are not implying that this whole forum is a bunch of jackasses that enjoy belittling people.    
Dec 17, 2007 5:10 pm

Also one more time Brian is a nice guy but I am not Brian and  if you “fellas” want to act like jackasses I plan on calling you on it. As you can see I am not as nice as Brian.  I am also not leaving for there are still some people on this forum worth talking with.

  If I have to put up with the jerks so be it.   Brian, hate to see you go but based on how you were treated I truly understand.
Dec 17, 2007 7:22 pm
Honestly, don't you have a bridge to guard or something... 
Dec 17, 2007 7:24 pm

If these guys and gals get under your skin that much–how are you able to handle life in this business–get a grip on life!