Fee schedule on MSSB, Wells, and Merril accounts
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Does anybody know the typical fee schedule on a fee-based account at these firms?
I have a prospect with $480k at MSSB, $1.2 mil at Wells and $950k at Merril (BofA).
Most of it is inherited money. They have never spoken to an advisor at any of the firms except Wells, where their account objectives say that the account is a trading & speculation account when they are 62 and about to retire.
Anyway. Anybody have any insight?
Wells and Merrill.... Discretionary trading acounts......max 3% min 1.5% ( at 1 mill ) mutual fund accounts and managers and all the other crap....same only I think you can lower the fees more. Also, it's labeled trading and speculation because the guy uses " non-traditional " etf's. He's either really smart or working with products he doesn't understand. Performance will give you the answer. Good luckDoes anybody know the typical fee schedule on a fee-based account at these firms?
I have a prospect with $480k at MSSB, $1.2 mil at Wells and $950k at Merril (BofA).
Most of it is inherited money. They have never spoken to an advisor at any of the firms except Wells, where their account objectives say that the account is a trading & speculation account when they are 62 and about to retire.
Anyway. Anybody have any insight?
Wells and Merrill.... Discretionary trading acounts......max 3% min 1.5% ( at 1 mill ) mutual fund accounts and managers and all the other crap....same only I think you can lower the fees more. Also, it's labeled trading and speculation because the guy uses " non-traditional " etf's. He's either really smart or working with products he doesn't understand. Performance will give you the answer. Good luck[/quote][quote=Moraen]Does anybody know the typical fee schedule on a fee-based account at these firms?
I have a prospect with $480k at MSSB, $1.2 mil at Wells and $950k at Merril (BofA).
Most of it is inherited money. They have never spoken to an advisor at any of the firms except Wells, where their account objectives say that the account is a trading & speculation account when they are 62 and about to retire.
Anyway. Anybody have any insight?
Performance is sucking. Down 12% since June. 6% for the year. He is using individual equities, and a few ETFs. I don't know what the hell this guy was doing.
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On ML If it's outside money managers, it depends on asset allocation. If straight Consults managers the equity (higher) and fixed are different costs although they can aggregate the fee. If it is a CDP account (outside money managers with an oversight manager) the fee will be higher. Max of 3% and on a 1 million account I would GUESS down to 1.5%? MLPA accounts (wrap accounts) on 1 million probably could get down to 1.5% as well. MY advice??? Get a statement[/quote]I'm missing the first two pages from all statements. They scanned and emailed from Germany. For all I know, it's a traditional brokerage account. They say it's a "fee-based" account, but they might not know.
Wells and Merrill.... Discretionary trading acounts......max 3% min 1.5% ( at 1 mill ) mutual fund accounts and managers and all the other crap....same only I think you can lower the fees more. Also, it's labeled trading and speculation because the guy uses " non-traditional " etf's. He's either really smart or working with products he doesn't understand. Performance will give you the answer. Good luck[/quote][quote=BigKahuna][quote=Moraen]Does anybody know the typical fee schedule on a fee-based account at these firms?
I have a prospect with $480k at MSSB, $1.2 mil at Wells and $950k at Merril (BofA).
Most of it is inherited money. They have never spoken to an advisor at any of the firms except Wells, where their account objectives say that the account is a trading & speculation account when they are 62 and about to retire.
Anyway. Anybody have any insight?
Performance is sucking. Down 12% since June. 6% for the year. He is using individual equities, and a few ETFs. I don't know what the hell this guy was doing.
[/Q In Merrill terms, sounds like PIA. In Wells terms, sounds like PIM. ( Both discretionary trading accounts) What are his 2 and 3 year numbers like? That is probably more telling. Hopefully, and it sounds like it, this guy is an idiot. He definitely starting shorting in June.
Wirehouse fees only go as low as 1.5%?? So someone with $300K is probably paying 3%??? That is sick…
Wirehouse fees only go as low as 1.5%?? So someone with $300K is probably paying 3%??? That is sick…
wrong
and get off your high horse d*ckhead.
Thanks everybody. Your posts have given me enough of a range that they sent the rest of the statements. Awesome.
I meant that in a good way.. maybe I should raise my fees[quote=chief123] Wirehouse fees only go as low as 1.5%?? So someone with $300K is probably paying 3%??? That is sick…[/quote]
wrong
and get off your high horse d*ckhead.
At nearly $1mil, heavy discounting is available, and in MLPA at 1mil, MAX fee is 1.5%, not sure where some of you are coming up with your numbers. i'd expect it to be in the low 1's if MLPA, a little higher if PIA.
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[quote=Moraen]Does anybody know the typical fee schedule on a fee-based account at these firms?
I have a prospect with $480k at MSSB, $1.2 mil at Wells and $950k at Merril (BofA).
Most of it is inherited money. They have never spoken to an advisor at any of the firms except Wells, where their account objectives say that the account is a trading & speculation account when they are 62 and about to retire.
Anyway. Anybody have any insight?
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You may want to consider an index annuity. They don’t have fees.
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Not insurance licensed anymore. I refer the index annuity business out. Do you want some of my annuity business out that way?