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Oct 20, 2009 4:32 pm

Yea but look how damn slow BONDNET is compared to DOS. First time a great bond comes into inventory, there will be much bitching on Weddle’s Corner, because alot of people will miss it trying to refresh the screen. Not to mention that DOS is alot more secure of a system than windows and not very hackable. It may be behind the times, but its not really anything to be bitchin about because it’s really perfect for keeping the information from leaking out. Garauntee alot of people miss beeing able to page up and down to refresh the screen, instantantiously.

  I didn't know you could shred the checks. I always thought you had to mail them. Thats what we have done thusfar. I will say that the new video phones are bad ass. I'm not sure when we will all get those though.
Oct 20, 2009 4:53 pm

[quote=SometimesNowhere]

DOS...unreal.

Who would have thought that we are still using DOS. I mean, I have a damn cell phone that has almost found the cure for cancer, and my firm is still using DOS. Unbelievable.  [/quote]   Full disclosure; it's not really DOS.  It's actually pretty robust, it's just that interface still looks like DOS.  It's a hell of a lot faster than anything windows based.
Oct 20, 2009 5:04 pm

I will say one thing and it’s not necessarily a Jones “Horaah” but more of an observation. Everyone is griping about Jones taking so long, but it’s really been sort of a fact over time that a company that takes it’s time developing it’s software and systems, usually comes out with a better system. The guys that just hop on board right away, usually get lower quality software, as well as end up having to change it or upgrade it very often to keep up. A well developed software system can run with minimal upgrades, and really only need necessary maintenance. Just an observation, like I said not specifically me praising Jones, but I see it as a good thing. So maybe other firms might be inferior to Jones technology soon enough lol.

  Now if they could only add the diversification screen to the FA performance screen so that it updates daily. That seems to be easy, considering all the other numbers update daily lol.
Oct 20, 2009 5:07 pm

Bondnet is slow as hell.  I think its because people have searches and refreshes running on it like crazy.  Also, it’s new so 9000 are cramming the system. 

  I expect it'll speed up but they certainly need to increase the bandwidth or whatever it is.   Cool system though!
Oct 20, 2009 5:10 pm
Ronnie Dobbs:

I will say one thing and it’s not necessarily a Jones “Horaah” but more of an observation. Everyone is griping about Jones taking so long, but it’s really been sort of a fact over time that a company that takes it’s time developing it’s software and systems, usually comes out with a better system. The guys that just hop on board right away, usually get lower quality software, as well as end up having to change it or upgrade it very often to keep up. A well developed software system can run with minimal upgrades, and really only need necessary maintenance. Just an observation, like I said not specifically me praising Jones, but I see it as a good thing. So maybe other firms might be inferior to Jones technology soon enough lol.

  x2 ... Many regional banks run their software and systems just this way.  Massive cost savings but you are never leading edge and your systems age faster because you buy into them a few years after other companies.
Oct 20, 2009 5:19 pm
voltmoie:

[quote=Ronnie Dobbs]I will say one thing and it’s not necessarily a Jones “Horaah” but more of an observation. Everyone is griping about Jones taking so long, but it’s really been sort of a fact over time that a company that takes it’s time developing it’s software and systems, usually comes out with a better system. The guys that just hop on board right away, usually get lower quality software, as well as end up having to change it or upgrade it very often to keep up. A well developed software system can run with minimal upgrades, and really only need necessary maintenance. Just an observation, like I said not specifically me praising Jones, but I see it as a good thing. So maybe other firms might be inferior to Jones technology soon enough lol.

  x2 ... Many regional banks run their software and systems just this way.  Massive cost savings but you are never leading edge and your systems age faster because you buy into them a few years after other companies.[/quote]   You really don't have to be leading edge. Take Mac for example. It's the same damn software it was 20 years ago. The difference is just the programs on it and ugrades. Windows however is completely different everytime it comes out. When you have a good progam (Mac) which is Linux based, you don't need to keep changing the system. You simply upgrade, or build the new program within the old system. So you are saving money in alot of ways and really just as up to date (for the most part) as anyone else.
Oct 21, 2009 2:00 pm

I understand that there is something to be said for security and reliability, but in my mind that does not excuse us for having those COM screens. Even BondNet, while a far more useful tool than the COM screens is about 10 years past it's prime. I just don't get that. I am not asking for state of the art, but having something that was developed sometime this century would be pretty cool.

This is how I imagine the conversation goes in some of these software companies (I assume we bought BondNet from someone):   Inventory Manager: "Damn, what are we going to do with all this excess capacity with this archaic platform. Guess we have to scrap the whole thing and take a loss on the project. This software is essentially worthless."   Enterprising Sales Manager: "Not so fast. There is this brokerage firm in St. Louis..."   Inventory Manager: "Scottrade? No way, they would never take it."   Enterprising Sales Manager: "No, Edward Jones. You know, the ones that have the naming rights to the stadium that houses the worst team in football?"   Inventory Manager: "Huh...never heard of them..."   Enterprising Sales Manager: "Anyway, I think if we call them up and tell them we have this great idea with this really spiffy bond trading platform they would be all over it!"   Inventory Manager: "Really, who in the hell would do that?"   Enterprising Sales Manager: "Well, you see, right now they are using this thing they call the 'green screen'. I saw it one day. It is like a morbid cross between DOS and some joke from Office Space."   Inventory Manager: "What!?"   Enterprising Sales Manager: "Yeah! I heard some branches also have crank telephones. Anyway, I think we can sell this outdated product at full price, and they would be happy to take it."   Enterprising Sales Manager and Inventory Manager pat each other on the @$$ and begin calling the Edward Jones home office...
Oct 21, 2009 2:32 pm

Sadly i think it might be true… I love the new website… just a front splash page, but after that same old crappy site…

Oct 21, 2009 3:25 pm

Sometimes,

  Honstly, I don't see the problem with BondNet.  It has every imaginable sort feature.  You can save pre-sorted searches.  You can run proposals and hypos, customize the views, etc.  What exactly is not "current" about it?  I mean, I'm not defending Jones, I simply don't see what else you need.  It is very similar to Municipalbonds.com website, and many others, but with more functionality.  I just ran a quick search - all munis 10-15 years.  In 7 seconds it gave me 129 bonds, with every single feature of the bond as a sortable search column. Honestly, I am just curious exactly what other features you would want.
Oct 22, 2009 2:46 pm

[quote=B24]Sometimes,

  Honstly, I don't see the problem with BondNet.  It has every imaginable sort feature.  You can save pre-sorted searches.  You can run proposals and hypos, customize the views, etc.  What exactly is not "current" about it?  I mean, I'm not defending Jones, I simply don't see what else you need.  It is very similar to Municipalbonds.com website, and many others, but with more functionality.  I just ran a quick search - all munis 10-15 years.  In 7 seconds it gave me 129 bonds, with every single feature of the bond as a sortable search column. Honestly, I am just curious exactly what other features you would want.[/quote]   I guess it's less about what I want and more about what we (business people in '09, not Jonesies) are capable of.   I don't know about you and your region, but people in my region talk about it like it's the greatest thing ever. Yeah, it's better than what we have, but it is not as fantastic as everyone says it is. In my mind it is a slow, dolled-up spreadsheet. And what's worse is I believe that because we spent so much time and money rolling it out, we will have it for 25 years. Well, in 25 years this technology will be like 35 years old, and at the rate of technological development that is just not ok.   Now I don't know how scalable it is, but I'm sure, as Windy pointed out, there will be some opportunity to upgrade it. My point is it's ok, not good, certainly not great, and if we are just sort of shrugging our shoulders about it now, imagine what we will be saying later on down the line.
Oct 22, 2009 2:49 pm

Don’t worry Sometimes and B24. You guys won’t be at Jones in 2.5 years, let alone 25 years.   



Oct 22, 2009 3:21 pm

I’d prefer a BondNET girl over a software update … but that’s just me.

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Dec 18, 2009 7:51 pm

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