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Sep 11, 2006 5:52 pm

Obviously that never bothered you, Putsy.  No one thinks any good of you.

Sep 11, 2006 5:54 pm

Maybe a day will come when being well thought of will matter?

[/quote]

When do you think that day will come for you?

Sep 11, 2006 5:55 pm

Damn, Philo. You beat me to the punch(line)

Sep 11, 2006 5:56 pm

"Are you saying you quit a job by sending an email?   It’s getting worse."



I tried to contact the office Friday, got the machine and left a
message.  And sent an email before I left town for the
weekend.  Not as good as fighting Friday traffic to tell the FVP
in person and hand him my letter.



I was not very happy with the company and thought a weekend of
reflection would be better than showing up and insulting the
company.  I like the FVP I just need to be in a place that is a
better fit.

Sep 11, 2006 5:58 pm

"Do you think it’s possible that one of those firms contacted AMP asking
about your time there and they pulled the rug out from under you?"



No.

Sep 11, 2006 6:02 pm

[quote=birdv]

I tried to contact the office Friday, got the machine and left a message.  And sent an email before I left town for the weekend.  Not as good as fighting Friday traffic to tell the FVP in person and hand him my letter.

[/quote]

So let's see if we have this right.  You had not yet been appointed at AMP and you were taking a Friday off?

Does that seem like a good idea?

Sep 11, 2006 6:06 pm

I just passed the 66 on Thurdays.  I have not been appointed or anything of the sort.  I have not even signed a non compete form.



I would not have started pre appointment for two weeks.




Sep 11, 2006 6:06 pm

[quote=birdv]


I was not very happy with the company and thought a weekend of reflection would be better than showing up and insulting the company.  I like the FVP I just need to be in a place that is a better fit.


[/quote]

How long had you been there?  Had you put together three or four years of experiences that caused you to be "not very happy with the company?"

So, you were going to take off the weekend to think about your decision--but decided to leave a voice mail and then write an email.

Perhaps you said something in the voice mail or the email that caused them to fire you?

Why would you suppose a company the size of Ameriprise would make up lies about not having seen you in a couple of weeks--maybe you had taken some time off that you forgot about.  You know, so you didn't have to fight the traffic and good get an early start on taking some well deserved time off?

Sep 11, 2006 6:33 pm

<span =“bold”>NASD Newbie



Your alot older than me and have alot more experience in the
industry.  I was hoping to get some positive input on how to
proceed from here.  I did not come here to lament my
decisions.  I just wanted your experience on AMP and my questions
about my NASD certs. 



I love to pick apart peoples decision too, but I would like and need
your help with finding if I could retain my certs without any
problem. 





Sep 11, 2006 6:34 pm

I don’t think AMP is out to get me.  I just want to cover my ASS.

Sep 11, 2006 6:42 pm

Serious advice for you, Birdy:

You should probably consider ponying up for 1 hours worth of some NASD arb lawyer's time and ask him or her. Most have some experience with Ameriprise already.

FD: this is not a solicitation for any specific NASD arb attorney and I was only kidding about Birdy joining the Army.

Sep 11, 2006 7:07 pm

Thanks for the advice <span =“bold”>ymh_ymh_ymh .  

Sep 11, 2006 7:15 pm

It may not even take an hour to answer your question(s) but I think that's the minimum most charge.

You're concerned about if you have any sort of obligation to AMP and what they're going to say about you to any prospective new employer, right? Reasonable questions/concerns, in my opinion.

Another piece of advice I am going to offer you is do very good due dilly on your next employer. If you only have 1 where you stayed less than a year and quit without a really good excuse, most people tend to overlook that, especially if it's your 1st or 2nd job out of college. If you have another experience like that it's going to be very hard to find a decent employer willing to give you a chance.

Written (not e-mail) notice of resignation with 2 weeks' notice or more is still considered pretty standard fair other than if you're already a broker with a book of clients. Then the, "I am out of here on Friday" stuff is pretty standard.

You're welcome and best wishes to you, Birdy.

Sep 11, 2006 7:16 pm

[quote=ymh_ymh_ymh]

Serious advice for you, Birdy:

You should probably consider ponying up for 1 hours worth of some NASD arb lawyer's time and ask him or her. Most have some experience with Ameriprise already.

FD: this is not a solicitation for any specific NASD arb attorney and I was only kidding about Birdy joining the Army.

[/quote]

That shouldn't be necessary unless he wants to stay with AMP or if they say he was dismissed because he didn't show up for two weeks and he can prove that he did.

I find it curious that they would fire him with a registered letter if he had been coming to the office and trying.

If he was not, all the arbitration attorneys on earth could not, and should not, help him.

Sep 11, 2006 7:18 pm

[quote=birdv]NASD Newbie

Your alot older than me and have alot more experience in the industry.  I was hoping to get some positive input on how to proceed from here.  I did not come here to lament my decisions.  I just wanted your experience on AMP and my questions about my NASD certs. 

I love to pick apart peoples decision too, but I would like and need your help with finding if I could retain my certs without any problem. 


[/quote]

If you show up and ask questions is it wrong to answer them unless the answer is something that you want to hear.

One of the things that amazes me about this forum is how so many of you kids start to whine as soon as an adult pops your bubble.

Sep 11, 2006 7:19 pm

I didn't catch the registered letter bit.

If he wants to stay in this business, I think spending an hour or so with a NASD arb lawyer is in his best interests.

Sep 11, 2006 7:42 pm

I am not fired I was never hired.

I am just leaving the sponsorship program after completing my test. 

They are not firing me as much as terminating the sponsorship agreement.



At Ameriprise you have a meeting every Thursday and that is it until
you pass all your test and then there is the 10 week
preappointment.  Then they can hire you or let you go.



I would still have to wait two weeks to start pre appointment. 
After I passed my last test I decided not to continue the
program.  I have my CRD#. 



I just want my CRD# to not go to crap. 

Sep 11, 2006 7:44 pm

[quote=birdv]I just passed the 66 on Thurdays.  I have not been appointed or anything of the sort.  I have not even signed a non compete form.

I would not have started pre appointment for two weeks.


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How many Thursdays did you take to pass Series 66?

I'll ask again, do you think it was smart to take off a Friday before you get hired--does that show your manager much?

You said you got the letter on Saturday--that means it had to have been written on Friday.  I'm not sure that it's a bad decision to fire a kid who can't even make it back to the office after passing the exams.

How many other rookies were in your program?  How many of them did you send the amexpsux website?  If you were the boss would you like a punk around who was sending negative websites to others in the office?

This just doesn't make sense--there you were studying along for your exams and no sooner than you pass them they fire you.  For no reason at all--in fact they make up lies about you.

How often do you suppose they do that, and why would they do it?

Sep 11, 2006 7:52 pm

[quote=birdv]I am not fired I was never hired.
I am just leaving the sponsorship program after completing my test. 
They are not firing me as much as terminating the sponsorship agreement.

At Ameriprise you have a meeting every Thursday and that is it until you pass all your test and then there is the 10 week preappointment.  Then they can hire you or let you go.

I would still have to wait two weeks to start pre appointment.  After I passed my last test I decided not to continue the program.  I have my CRD#. 

I just want my CRD# to not go to crap. 
[/quote]

Your CRD number will not go to crap for two years, as you should have learned for the exams.

The fact remains that AMP is listed as your employer on your CRD file and it is not really possible to put a happy face on the fact that you are not there.

I would not hire you, and I don't suppose any large firm will.

What do you know about the business that allowed you to conclude that the AMP products were junk, or garbage or whatever adjective you used? 

Sep 11, 2006 7:59 pm

I would not have been in the office on Friday anyway.  I would
only come into the office on Thursdays until I start my pre appointment.



I did not send any sh*t to the office calling for a revolt.  I
believe many of the other kids deserve their shot with out me pissing
on their parade.  I do <span style=“font-size: 12pt; font-family: “Times New Roman”;”>appreciate
what I have learned in my Thurday meeting .  And I do not dislike
the FVP.  So I would not want to spoil his recuiting
class.  



I passed all my test the first time. 



They did not fire me.  I withdrew from sponsorship.



Rookies in the program?  There were atlot but people were dropping
out like flies.  Out of 30 sponsored I was one of the 3 that pass
all the test.



I do not know why they said that they haven’t had contact with me for
two weeks.  And I am starting to think that it really doesn’t
matter.