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Jul 15, 2010 11:05 pm

BigFirePower,

You said, "My weekly calling plan for years was 150 dials, 5-6 appointments, 3-4 new households, 6-8k gross. I had very good lists...." 

I have gone through and saved most of the posts in this forum regarding cold calling, scripts, etc and I have saved most of the good stuff by several of the members here regarding stats including the prolithic post called the 500 Day War.  I used a lot of that data to gauge my effectiveness when I started...which really helped launch me on the proper trajectory.  Back to the story.  Assuming 50 weeks in a year and 6-8k gross, you grossed on the lines of $300,000 to $400,000 for years.  Not bad, but not necessarily extraordinary.    Furthermore, if I am reading your stats correctly, you made 30 dials per day (less if if you dialed 6 days per week) and basically got an appointment each day off of only 30 dials.  Per your numbers, you also made on average  $1200 to $1600 per day from these dials or to break it down further, $40 to $53.33 each time you picked up the freakin' phone.  You had more than "very good lists".  You my friend are the SUPER BROKER!!!

You should call Bill Good and David J Mullen Jr. and show them how it is done because your effectiveness/stats are better than anyone's I have ever talked to, read about, or even dreamed of!  Given my daily volume of 250-300 dials, I should be grossing $600K to $800K already.  If only I had your lists!!!  LOL! 

Jul 16, 2010 2:31 pm

He has stated in previous posts, that he worked at a bank.. So my guess is that he scrolled the accounts looking for liquid cash..

Jul 16, 2010 2:35 pm

Neloza, what if your only going to talk to them over the phone? You have good stuff, but your rebuttals end with coming by and seeing the person. The only time I would see these people is if I'm in the area and they needed to get together with me.

Jul 16, 2010 2:51 pm

Sorry, I should of explained it better.  This was the type of stuff I used in insurance where all of the closing happened at the clients house and never over the phone.  I was trying to apply my experience in insurance to that of an FA.  I would suggest that instead of asking for an actual face to face meeting ask for an appointment over the phone (make sure they have their financial info handy for that meeting).  Hope that clarified it somewhat.

Jul 16, 2010 3:06 pm

Yeah it did. I knew what you were talking about, just wondering how you would change it up for phone only appointments. Thanks for the info.

Jul 16, 2010 3:46 pm

[quote=chickenfeed]

He has stated in previous posts, that he worked at a bank.. So my guess is that he scrolled the accounts looking for liquid cash..

[/quote]

Aha! Yes, we have a winner folks. What he also fails to mention, is that the gross calcs he made, which are accurate, did not include biz from existing clients. As per Nick Murray, the trick is to find out what the number of dials are relative to appointments. The better the list, the more qualified the prospect, the better the ratio. My suggestion to folks is to work hard on hitting dials, but there is a tendency to forget about quality of dials. Lastly, there are NO brownie points for "degree of difficulty". I chose to swim downstream in my career, and I'd never ever apologize to upstream swimmers for that.

I spent the first 17 years of my career with failure and successes, various work places, all the while paying attention to what was going on. There were times I thought I was spinning my wheels, but a few years ago I accepted my past, and realized I had enormous amounts of real experience that might serve me well on the rest of the journey. So, now I'm independent, my transition was about an A-, mostly due to the ability to draw from my experiences.

Jul 16, 2010 3:59 pm

[quote=TenToesDown]

BigFirePower,

You said, "My weekly calling plan for years was 150 dials, 5-6 appointments, 3-4 new households, 6-8k gross. I had very good lists...." 

I have gone through and saved most of the posts in this forum regarding cold calling, scripts, etc and I have saved most of the good stuff by several of the members here regarding stats including the prolithic post called the 500 Day War.  I used a lot of that data to gauge my effectiveness when I started...which really helped launch me on the proper trajectory.  Back to the story.  Assuming 50 weeks in a year and 6-8k gross, you grossed on the lines of $300,000 to $400,000 for years.  Not bad, but not necessarily extraordinary.    Furthermore, if I am reading your stats correctly, you made 30 dials per day (less if if you dialed 6 days per week) and basically got an appointment each day off of only 30 dials.  Per your numbers, you also made on average  $1200 to $1600 per day from these dials or to break it down further, $40 to $53.33 each time you picked up the freakin' phone.  You had more than "very good lists".  You my friend are the SUPER BROKER!!!

You should call Bill Good and David J Mullen Jr. and show them how it is done because your effectiveness/stats are better than anyone's I have ever talked to, read about, or even dreamed of!  Given my daily volume of 250-300 dials, I should be grossing $600K to $800K already.  If only I had your lists!!!  LOL! 

[/quote]

Well, you can clearly see that the quality of your list, is an incredibly important part of prospecting. Ten, for your sake, when provided valuable information, at no cost at all, you might be a "gracious" listener, instead of a rude one. Sharing my experiences here with rookie brokers certainly doesn't line my pockets. I might give you and the others here a few tips, that strategically used could actually make a huge diff in your career. You may have already noticed, that some of your senior reps in your office are extremely TIGHT lipped. You might ask yourself why that is.

BTW Mr. Genius, I didn't call each day. No, I jammed all those calls in on Friday mornings between 9am-1pm, then starting on Monday I got walk ins and follow up phone calls. I segmented my time. I also had a decent sized book already, and was able to hunt and skin this way. But, after 3 years of that tedious grind in the basement of the branch, I hung it up for 3 reasons. I had 1100 households, a jr partner, and a secretary, figured I'd just coast for a while, make some money. And, that's what I did, until the world turned upside down in 2008. I did a Million in 2007, what did you make/do in 2007 Ten?

Jul 16, 2010 7:06 pm

[quote=BigFirepower]

[quote=TenToesDown]

BigFirePower,

You said, "My weekly calling plan for years was 150 dials, 5-6 appointments, 3-4 new households, 6-8k gross. I had very good lists...." 

I have gone through and saved most of the posts in this forum regarding cold calling, scripts, etc and I have saved most of the good stuff by several of the members here regarding stats including the prolithic post called the 500 Day War.  I used a lot of that data to gauge my effectiveness when I started...which really helped launch me on the proper trajectory.  Back to the story.  Assuming 50 weeks in a year and 6-8k gross, you grossed on the lines of $300,000 to $400,000 for years.  Not bad, but not necessarily extraordinary.    Furthermore, if I am reading your stats correctly, you made 30 dials per day (less if if you dialed 6 days per week) and basically got an appointment each day off of only 30 dials.  Per your numbers, you also made on average  $1200 to $1600 per day from these dials or to break it down further, $40 to $53.33 each time you picked up the freakin' phone.  You had more than "very good lists".  You my friend are the SUPER BROKER!!!

You should call Bill Good and David J Mullen Jr. and show them how it is done because your effectiveness/stats are better than anyone's I have ever talked to, read about, or even dreamed of!  Given my daily volume of 250-300 dials, I should be grossing $600K to $800K already.  If only I had your lists!!!  LOL! 

[/quote]

Well, you can clearly see that the quality of your list, is an incredibly important part of prospecting. Ten, for your sake, when provided valuable information, at no cost at all, you might be a "gracious" listener, instead of a rude one. Sharing my experiences here with rookie brokers certainly doesn't line my pockets. I might give you and the others here a few tips, that strategically used could actually make a huge diff in your career. You may have already noticed, that some of your senior reps in your office are extremely TIGHT lipped. You might ask yourself why that is.

BTW Mr. Genius, I didn't call each day. No, I jammed all those calls in on Friday mornings between 9am-1pm, then starting on Monday I got walk ins and follow up phone calls. I segmented my time. I also had a decent sized book already, and was able to hunt and skin this way. But, after 3 years of that tedious grind in the basement of the branch, I hung it up for 3 reasons. I had 1100 households, a jr partner, and a secretary, figured I'd just coast for a while, make some money. And, that's what I did, until the world turned upside down in 2008. I did a Million in 2007, what did you make/do in 2007 Ten?

[/quote]

Well, I haven't experienced anyone in my office that was TIGHT lipped because I approached them in a professional manner and respected my time.  I have met with all of the big guns in my office...actually did it when I first got here and experienced zero pushback whatsoever.  Now, some of the other clown a$$ newer guys just barged into some of the big guys offices and were rebuked immediately.  It is all in the approach and respect you show for their time I guess.

In terms of your numbers, it doesn't matter when you made the calls.  The difference is that all you made it seem like you had some great method of list building/finding people that were liquid with at least $250k when all you had to do was look at the bank's client information that was readily available.  No wonder your stats are so good.  Granted, you still had to close the deals and that is no easy task, but it is misleading nonetheless.

Congrats on your 2007 gross.  Since we are in chest thumping mode, your 2007 doesn't impress me though because I wasn't in this business in 2007  but owned a business that grossed $4mm in 2007 while only operating for 9 months and netting me a 25% margin.  $3.2mm in 2006 as well with the same percentage net in my pocket.  Pretty good eh!    Took a year and a half off from work because I could and restarted in this business after originally being in this business when I first got out of college years ago.  Crushing all of my numbers thus far with pure sweat equity and i pretty much outwork everyone around me.  It has brought me amazing success in the past and I have zero doubt whatsoever that it will bring me amazing success again.

Jul 16, 2010 7:19 pm

[quote=TenToesDown]

[quote=BigFirepower]

[quote=TenToesDown]

BigFirePower,

You said, "My weekly calling plan for years was 150 dials, 5-6 appointments, 3-4 new households, 6-8k gross. I had very good lists...." 

I have gone through and saved most of the posts in this forum regarding cold calling, scripts, etc and I have saved most of the good stuff by several of the members here regarding stats including the prolithic post called the 500 Day War.  I used a lot of that data to gauge my effectiveness when I started...which really helped launch me on the proper trajectory.  Back to the story.  Assuming 50 weeks in a year and 6-8k gross, you grossed on the lines of $300,000 to $400,000 for years.  Not bad, but not necessarily extraordinary.    Furthermore, if I am reading your stats correctly, you made 30 dials per day (less if if you dialed 6 days per week) and basically got an appointment each day off of only 30 dials.  Per your numbers, you also made on average  $1200 to $1600 per day from these dials or to break it down further, $40 to $53.33 each time you picked up the freakin' phone.  You had more than "very good lists".  You my friend are the SUPER BROKER!!!

You should call Bill Good and David J Mullen Jr. and show them how it is done because your effectiveness/stats are better than anyone's I have ever talked to, read about, or even dreamed of!  Given my daily volume of 250-300 dials, I should be grossing $600K to $800K already.  If only I had your lists!!!  LOL! 

[/quote]

Well, you can clearly see that the quality of your list, is an incredibly important part of prospecting. Ten, for your sake, when provided valuable information, at no cost at all, you might be a "gracious" listener, instead of a rude one. Sharing my experiences here with rookie brokers certainly doesn't line my pockets. I might give you and the others here a few tips, that strategically used could actually make a huge diff in your career. You may have already noticed, that some of your senior reps in your office are extremely TIGHT lipped. You might ask yourself why that is.

BTW Mr. Genius, I didn't call each day. No, I jammed all those calls in on Friday mornings between 9am-1pm, then starting on Monday I got walk ins and follow up phone calls. I segmented my time. I also had a decent sized book already, and was able to hunt and skin this way. But, after 3 years of that tedious grind in the basement of the branch, I hung it up for 3 reasons. I had 1100 households, a jr partner, and a secretary, figured I'd just coast for a while, make some money. And, that's what I did, until the world turned upside down in 2008. I did a Million in 2007, what did you make/do in 2007 Ten?

[/quote]

Well, I haven't experienced anyone in my office that was TIGHT lipped because I approached them in a professional manner and respected my time.  I have met with all of the big guns in my office...actually did it when I first got here and experienced zero pushback whatsoever.  Now, some of the other clown a$$ newer guys just barged into some of the big guys offices and were rebuked immediately.  It is all in the approach and respect you show for their time I guess.

In terms of your numbers, it doesn't matter when you made the calls.  The difference is that all you made it seem like you had some great method of list building/finding people that were liquid with at least $250k when all you had to do was look at the bank's client information that was readily available.  No wonder your stats are so good.  Granted, you still had to close the deals and that is no easy task, but it is misleading nonetheless.

Congrats on your 2007 gross.  Since we are in chest thumping mode, your 2007 doesn't impress me though because I wasn't in this business in 2007  but owned a business that grossed $4mm in 2007 while only operating for 9 months and netting me a 25% margin.  $3.2mm in 2006 as well with the same percentage net in my pocket.  Pretty good eh!    Took a year and a half off from work because I could and restarted in this business after originally being in this business when I first got out of college years ago.  Crushing all of my numbers thus far with pure sweat equity and i pretty much outwork everyone around me.  It has brought me amazing success in the past and I have zero doubt whatsoever that it will bring me amazing success again.

[/quote]

You've been in this biz for like what, 12 something months, licensed for less than that, and talking trash? Good grief little buddy...

Jul 16, 2010 8:32 pm

[quote=BigFirepower] You've been in this biz for like what, 12 something months, licensed for less than that, and talking trash? Good grief little buddy... [/quote]

You've been on this forum for like what, 12 something days, and talking trash?

I think it's hilarious how you misled the entire forum and failed to disclose you were working in a BANK, not a broker/dealer.

You're a tool, BigFirepower.

Jul 16, 2010 8:34 pm

[quote=gethardgetraw]

You've been on this forum for like what, 12 something days, and talking trash?

I think it's hilarious how you misled the entire forum and failed to disclose you were working in a BANK, not a broker/dealer.

You're a tool, BigFirepower.

[/quote]

If I didn't inform and disclose, then how is it that you know about my career? I've posted literally my entire bio on this place. Grow up kid, quit being the failing Ed Jones 20yr old something you are/acting like, and maybe you'll find some success in this biz. Your responses and actions no doubt shine through to your prospects as well, so that your tireless efforts lead only to getting people from my F book. Maybe if you weren't such a little failing dweeb, many other reps would have given you some decent advice, so you wouldn't be endlessly spinning your wheels.

Zero sales fella, and you call me a Tool? Someone that's been in the biz for nearly 20 yrs, clean compliance record, own my own business (90% payout...), 52m in assets. Ok, if I'm a tool, then what are you?

Jul 16, 2010 8:54 pm

[quote=BigFirepower]Zero sales fella, and you call me a Tool? Someone that's been in the biz for nearly 20 yrs, clean compliance record, own my own business (90% payout...), 5.2m in assets. Ok, if I'm a tool, then what are you?[/quote]

I think you made a typo. I fixed it for ya

Jul 16, 2010 8:58 pm

He did disclose it.. He said he had work at banks, wires etc..

Jul 16, 2010 9:06 pm

[quote=BigFirepower]

[quote=TenToesDown]

[quote=BigFirepower]

[quote=TenToesDown]

BigFirePower,

You said, "My weekly calling plan for years was 150 dials, 5-6 appointments, 3-4 new households, 6-8k gross. I had very good lists...." 

I have gone through and saved most of the posts in this forum regarding cold calling, scripts, etc and I have saved most of the good stuff by several of the members here regarding stats including the prolithic post called the 500 Day War.  I used a lot of that data to gauge my effectiveness when I started...which really helped launch me on the proper trajectory.  Back to the story.  Assuming 50 weeks in a year and 6-8k gross, you grossed on the lines of $300,000 to $400,000 for years.  Not bad, but not necessarily extraordinary.    Furthermore, if I am reading your stats correctly, you made 30 dials per day (less if if you dialed 6 days per week) and basically got an appointment each day off of only 30 dials.  Per your numbers, you also made on average  $1200 to $1600 per day from these dials or to break it down further, $40 to $53.33 each time you picked up the freakin' phone.  You had more than "very good lists".  You my friend are the SUPER BROKER!!!

You should call Bill Good and David J Mullen Jr. and show them how it is done because your effectiveness/stats are better than anyone's I have ever talked to, read about, or even dreamed of!  Given my daily volume of 250-300 dials, I should be grossing $600K to $800K already.  If only I had your lists!!!  LOL! 

[/quote]

Well, you can clearly see that the quality of your list, is an incredibly important part of prospecting. Ten, for your sake, when provided valuable information, at no cost at all, you might be a "gracious" listener, instead of a rude one. Sharing my experiences here with rookie brokers certainly doesn't line my pockets. I might give you and the others here a few tips, that strategically used could actually make a huge diff in your career. You may have already noticed, that some of your senior reps in your office are extremely TIGHT lipped. You might ask yourself why that is.

BTW Mr. Genius, I didn't call each day. No, I jammed all those calls in on Friday mornings between 9am-1pm, then starting on Monday I got walk ins and follow up phone calls. I segmented my time. I also had a decent sized book already, and was able to hunt and skin this way. But, after 3 years of that tedious grind in the basement of the branch, I hung it up for 3 reasons. I had 1100 households, a jr partner, and a secretary, figured I'd just coast for a while, make some money. And, that's what I did, until the world turned upside down in 2008. I did a Million in 2007, what did you make/do in 2007 Ten?

[/quote]

Well, I haven't experienced anyone in my office that was TIGHT lipped because I approached them in a professional manner and respected my time.  I have met with all of the big guns in my office...actually did it when I first got here and experienced zero pushback whatsoever.  Now, some of the other clown a$$ newer guys just barged into some of the big guys offices and were rebuked immediately.  It is all in the approach and respect you show for their time I guess.

In terms of your numbers, it doesn't matter when you made the calls.  The difference is that all you made it seem like you had some great method of list building/finding people that were liquid with at least $250k when all you had to do was look at the bank's client information that was readily available.  No wonder your stats are so good.  Granted, you still had to close the deals and that is no easy task, but it is misleading nonetheless.

Congrats on your 2007 gross.  Since we are in chest thumping mode, your 2007 doesn't impress me though because I wasn't in this business in 2007  but owned a business that grossed $4mm in 2007 while only operating for 9 months and netting me a 25% margin.  $3.2mm in 2006 as well with the same percentage net in my pocket.  Pretty good eh!    Took a year and a half off from work because I could and restarted in this business after originally being in this business when I first got out of college years ago.  Crushing all of my numbers thus far with pure sweat equity and i pretty much outwork everyone around me.  It has brought me amazing success in the past and I have zero doubt whatsoever that it will bring me amazing success again.

[/quote]

You've been in this biz for like what, 12 something months, licensed for less than that, and talking trash? Good grief little buddy...

[/quote]

[quote=BigFirepower]

[quote=TenToesDown]

[quote=BigFirepower]

[quote=TenToesDown]

BigFirePower,

You said, "My weekly calling plan for years was 150 dials, 5-6 appointments, 3-4 new households, 6-8k gross. I had very good lists...." 

I have gone through and saved most of the posts in this forum regarding cold calling, scripts, etc and I have saved most of the good stuff by several of the members here regarding stats including the prolithic post called the 500 Day War.  I used a lot of that data to gauge my effectiveness when I started...which really helped launch me on the proper trajectory.  Back to the story.  Assuming 50 weeks in a year and 6-8k gross, you grossed on the lines of $300,000 to $400,000 for years.  Not bad, but not necessarily extraordinary.    Furthermore, if I am reading your stats correctly, you made 30 dials per day (less if if you dialed 6 days per week) and basically got an appointment each day off of only 30 dials.  Per your numbers, you also made on average  $1200 to $1600 per day from these dials or to break it down further, $40 to $53.33 each time you picked up the freakin' phone.  You had more than "very good lists".  You my friend are the SUPER BROKER!!!

You should call Bill Good and David J Mullen Jr. and show them how it is done because your effectiveness/stats are better than anyone's I have ever talked to, read about, or even dreamed of!  Given my daily volume of 250-300 dials, I should be grossing $600K to $800K already.  If only I had your lists!!!  LOL! 

[/quote]

Well, you can clearly see that the quality of your list, is an incredibly important part of prospecting. Ten, for your sake, when provided valuable information, at no cost at all, you might be a "gracious" listener, instead of a rude one. Sharing my experiences here with rookie brokers certainly doesn't line my pockets. I might give you and the others here a few tips, that strategically used could actually make a huge diff in your career. You may have already noticed, that some of your senior reps in your office are extremely TIGHT lipped. You might ask yourself why that is.

BTW Mr. Genius, I didn't call each day. No, I jammed all those calls in on Friday mornings between 9am-1pm, then starting on Monday I got walk ins and follow up phone calls. I segmented my time. I also had a decent sized book already, and was able to hunt and skin this way. But, after 3 years of that tedious grind in the basement of the branch, I hung it up for 3 reasons. I had 1100 households, a jr partner, and a secretary, figured I'd just coast for a while, make some money. And, that's what I did, until the world turned upside down in 2008. I did a Million in 2007, what did you make/do in 2007 Ten?

[/quote]

Well, I haven't experienced anyone in my office that was TIGHT lipped because I approached them in a professional manner and respected my time.  I have met with all of the big guns in my office...actually did it when I first got here and experienced zero pushback whatsoever.  Now, some of the other clown a$$ newer guys just barged into some of the big guys offices and were rebuked immediately.  It is all in the approach and respect you show for their time I guess.

In terms of your numbers, it doesn't matter when you made the calls.  The difference is that all you made it seem like you had some great method of list building/finding people that were liquid with at least $250k when all you had to do was look at the bank's client information that was readily available.  No wonder your stats are so good.  Granted, you still had to close the deals and that is no easy task, but it is misleading nonetheless.

Congrats on your 2007 gross.  Since we are in chest thumping mode, your 2007 doesn't impress me though because I wasn't in this business in 2007  but owned a business that grossed $4mm in 2007 while only operating for 9 months and netting me a 25% margin.  $3.2mm in 2006 as well with the same percentage net in my pocket.  Pretty good eh!    Took a year and a half off from work because I could and restarted in this business after originally being in this business when I first got out of college years ago.  Crushing all of my numbers thus far with pure sweat equity and i pretty much outwork everyone around me.  It has brought me amazing success in the past and I have zero doubt whatsoever that it will bring me amazing success again.

[/quote]

You've been in this biz for like what, 12 something months, licensed for less than that, and talking trash? Good grief little buddy...

[/quote]

See, that is your problem...er uh...buddy.  You are no different than every other pompous a$$ that thinks time in service is some badge of courage to be exhalted and that somehow I should kiss your feet.  You made yourself out to be some genious prospector with the ability to walk on water when all you did was suck milk out of the big fat titty that was provided by the bank.  YOU offered the advice.  YOU told people to only call people with $250K liquid.  YOU sold us your genius at prospecting ability and so called scripts when in fact all you did was sit back and push the big red button on your computer to sort the best bank customers in Excel.  Like I said in an earlier post, I can qualify all day long once I get people on the phone, but you said you used your expert tactics to already find lists with people with $250k and up liquid.  Hmm...I wonder where you got that information from.  What a freakin' load of bull. 

Congrats on being independent.  Congrats on your ginormous book.  Congrats on everything.  IMO, there is nothing wrong with working at a bank, but to sell yourself as a firebreather is a pure load of you know what.  I gotta go now...I am going to pour myself another glass of bourbon and pretend you never even mentioned that ridiculous crap you wrote.  I am sure you have some breast milk leftover from those large bank mammary glands you are all too familiar with.  Salute!! 

Jul 16, 2010 9:19 pm

[quote=chickenfeed]

He did disclose it.. He said he had work at banks, wires etc..

[/quote]

He has previously stated he works in a bank in a completely different thread. In this thread, he disclosed the fact AFTER he posted his ridiculous numbers. Calling your bank's clients who have large cash balances is not cold calling.

Look at his numbers. A new household every 37 calls? This job is easy.

Jul 16, 2010 9:17 pm

Well said, TenToesDown.

This guy's a joke. Get off our forum, BigFirepower. You've far outstayed your welcome.

Jul 16, 2010 10:06 pm

[quote=gethardgetraw]

Well said, TenToesDown.

This guy's a joke. Get off our forum, BigFirepower. You've far outstayed your welcome.

[/quote]

Too bad all you got is "your forum"...

You and Ten, well, do you really want me to apologize that I stacked the odds in my favor? I'd suggest you're both just a bit jealous that you have it tougher. Instead of both of you acting like little kids, why not take my advice in turning the numbers in your favor. Are you really so dense, that you could not create a list of folks that are at least 250k liquid? I'm trying to help, seriously. Use public records, do some research, and you'd create a prospecting pool that had folks in it that have a far higher propensity to buy than you'd realize. If you'd think a bit, instead of play macho, you'd realize that I'm really suggesting that you create predictable results on dials. Seriously RAW, you put the dials in, but are the folks you are calling really inclined/able to buy from you? I've seen how many dials you make, and that is more than enough. Either you are missing something with your calls, or you're calling the wrong folks. Figure out where you can improve on both sides, you'll get some statistically reliable numbers, then it just becomes a math game. I needed to make only 150 calls, maybe you need to make 450, who cares right? If it took 1000 calls, if you were guaranteed to hit a million in assets, sounds like you'd be all over that. Enough said, with both you and Ten, I'll leave the sand kicking right here. Peace to both of you.

Jul 16, 2010 10:15 pm

Hold on I'm registering my cold calling script with the NASD

Jul 16, 2010 10:34 pm

[quote=BigFirepower]

[quote=gethardgetraw]

Well said, TenToesDown.

This guy's a joke. Get off our forum, BigFirepower. You've far outstayed your welcome.

[/quote]

Too bad all you got is "your forum"...

You and Ten, well, do you really want me to apologize that I stacked the odds in my favor? I'd suggest you're both just a bit jealous that you have it tougher. Instead of both of you acting like little kids, why not take my advice in turning the numbers in your favor. Are you really so dense, that you could not create a list of folks that are at least 250k liquid? I'm trying to help, seriously. Use public records, do some research, and you'd create a prospecting pool that had folks in it that have a far higher propensity to buy than you'd realize. If you'd think a bit, instead of play macho, you'd realize that I'm really suggesting that you create predictable results on dials. Seriously RAW, you put the dials in, but are the folks you are calling really inclined/able to buy from you? I've seen how many dials you make, and that is more than enough. Either you are missing something with your calls, or you're calling the wrong folks. Figure out where you can improve on both sides, you'll get some statistically reliable numbers, then it just becomes a math game. I needed to make only 150 calls, maybe you need to make 450, who cares right? If it took 1000 calls, if you were guaranteed to hit a million in assets, sounds like you'd be all over that. Enough said, with both you and Ten, I'll leave the sand kicking right here. Peace to both of you.

[/quote]

You didn't stack anything in your favor.  You got a job at a bank, called their EXISTING customers, sold it as superhuman ability, then got called on the outlandish numbers you posted.  Good luck in your endeavors and with your practice.  As for me...i'm gonna pour myself another glass of Woodford Reserve and flip through the classifieds to see if can get me one of those bank gigs that I lust after!  Peace  

Jul 16, 2010 10:48 pm

[quote=TenToesDown]

[quote=BigFirepower]

[quote=gethardgetraw]

Well said, TenToesDown.

This guy's a joke. Get off our forum, BigFirepower. You've far outstayed your welcome.

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Too bad all you got is "your forum"...

You and Ten, well, do you really want me to apologize that I stacked the odds in my favor? I'd suggest you're both just a bit jealous that you have it tougher. Instead of both of you acting like little kids, why not take my advice in turning the numbers in your favor. Are you really so dense, that you could not create a list of folks that are at least 250k liquid? I'm trying to help, seriously. Use public records, do some research, and you'd create a prospecting pool that had folks in it that have a far higher propensity to buy than you'd realize. If you'd think a bit, instead of play macho, you'd realize that I'm really suggesting that you create predictable results on dials. Seriously RAW, you put the dials in, but are the folks you are calling really inclined/able to buy from you? I've seen how many dials you make, and that is more than enough. Either you are missing something with your calls, or you're calling the wrong folks. Figure out where you can improve on both sides, you'll get some statistically reliable numbers, then it just becomes a math game. I needed to make only 150 calls, maybe you need to make 450, who cares right? If it took 1000 calls, if you were guaranteed to hit a million in assets, sounds like you'd be all over that. Enough said, with both you and Ten, I'll leave the sand kicking right here. Peace to both of you.

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You didn't stack anything in your favor.  You got a job at a bank, called their EXISTING customers, sold it as superhuman ability, then got called on the outlandish numbers you posted.  Good luck in your endeavors and with your practice.  As for me...i'm gonna pour myself another glass of Woodford Reserve and flip through the classifieds to see if can get me one of those bank gigs that I lust after!  Peace  

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Hey, considering how "easy" it is to get business at a bank, why didn't/don't you go that route? Gee, just tap into the mainframe of the computer, and pick off all the rich folk huh? Either you don't know anything about working at a B/D at a bank, or you're just a fool for working where you do. Clearly, it is one or the other isn't it?

I never sold anything either. No, stupid me was just trying to help some rookie/new folk with some of my past experience. I simply posted the numbers of calls, appts, gross I had. Compared to your wheel spinning, can't blame you for being ticked off. Go drink your pain away, I'm meeting a rich client in a few minutes. ..

I indeed was planning on closing my acct here at RR because I got/didn't get what I was looking for. But, since the three of us are having so much fun, I'll stick around a bit longer. I'll be in touch.