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Jul 23, 2008 12:30 pm

This golfing stuff is pretty simple.  Do you like to golf?  If “yes”, go golf.  Do you like to play softball?  Play softball.  Do you like to go to needlepoint conventions?  Go. 

  Do you care about autism?  Join the autism society.    The point is to do the things that you want to do and do them for the right reasons.  Business will always follow.    I get business from everyone of my personal activities.  None of my personal activities are designed to generate business.
Jul 23, 2008 6:10 pm

Snags…why didn’t you call the cart girl?!

  Yeah Snags, you could have called her up and shot some skeet.  Skeet Skeet Skeet.   *Again, sorry for knowing what that means also*
Jul 23, 2008 10:47 pm

[quote=iceco1d]Snags…why didn’t you call the cart girl?!

  Yeah Snags, you could have called her up and shot some skeet.  Skeet Skeet Skeet.   *Again, sorry for knowing what that means also*[/quote]   That's pretty funny.    All the times you wish you didn't have a wife/girlfriend.....
Jul 23, 2008 10:52 pm


Bondo, you know there is BIG money out there shooting sometimes when you see some of those RV's in the parking lot.  Those guys are insane.[/quote]   The RVs, trailers and golf carts/ATVs are amazing.  I know of a few guys at my club who have spent more on guns than most people spend on a home.
Jul 24, 2008 12:06 am

Snags has it right on the nose.  As a former golf pro I played mini-tours and worked and taught lessons at both private and daily fee golf course.  I am just now getting into this business.  If you try playing golf for prospecting purposes the prospect you are trying to meet will see right through you…golfers know the difference.  I can actually walk into a restaurant and pick out the people who play golf on a regular basis…you can just tell.

  When thinking about how else I can use golf to prospect I tried going ot the range at 10:00 a.m. on a Tuesday......who do you think is pounding golf balls mid morning on a weekday (other than the 24 year old kid who works night shift at the Shell Station)?    So I walk over to the guy and make a few positive comments on his swing and ask if I can give him a small piece of advice.   I make sure he has seen me hit the ball a few times.  I explain I used to be a pro golfer and instructor.  Show him what to do and BANG! He starts hitting a draw.  Huge smile on his face.  Shake hands, small talk, get phone # to play sometime etc...  This can backfire in a big way if the guy starts hitting it worse...he'll hate you.  You need to know how to disect and analyze a guys golf swing very quickly to figure out what tip will help the most...even if it's only temporary.   I hope to get an offer from EDJ soon but don't plan on playing much for the next year after I knock on every stinking home with-in a 5 mile radius.  I'm bringing my brass knuckles.   If you are either very good you will get invited to play in member/guest tournaments and that is your door to meeting the guys with money.  Or, if you are one hell of a fun guy (the type who memorizes every joke they have ever heard and is the life of the party etc...) you will get invited too.  People either want to have a lot of fun playing OR they want you on their team to win the event.   I got invited to play in a member guest 3 weeks ago....I carried my guest big time on the alternate shot/scramble portion and then shot 70 on the second day and won him a trophy and bragging rights over his buddies.  We played with 4 other guys during the two rounds and 3 of the 4 were a dentist and another guy retiring from the Navy in 6 weeks and he also owns two small retail businesses.  If I played golf 5 days a week I could probably generate 10 HNW prospects/week.   We exchanged phone numbers and I expect them to call me to play in their next scramble event.  If not, I'm calling them.  They use me to win, I get the opportunity to earn their business and meet other contacts.   But it is very time consuming and costly, so I am sticking to he driving range.
Jul 24, 2008 7:59 pm

PraiseHim - how “pro” are we talking here?  Played on the PGA Tour once?  Or you know Tiger Woods? 

  He's an escort.
Jul 24, 2008 11:10 pm

Hot rods and classic car club here.   People who can afford a $15,000 paint job on their car or who do frame off resotorations generally have some ability to invest.  But that isn’t the point.  We all love cars and trucks.  We are getting geared up to go to Hot August Nights in Reno in the first week of August.   

Don't join a club or take up a sport just to network though.  People will know and see right through you for the phony that you are. 
Jul 25, 2008 4:15 am


  I played Div 1 golf in college on full ride then turned pro out of college from '93' to '99'.  I didn't have a rich dad so I had to work to put food on the table and pay my own way to enter tournaments.  I did my apprenticeship for PGA membership and got my class A status as a back up plan just in case I didn't make it as a tournament golfer.  I would work in MN for 6 months during summer as an assistant/teaching pro.  I would scratch out a meager living and saved up enough to pack the car up and live out of a hotel for 6 months in Florida and play the mini-tours.  I did this for 5 years and finally quit after realizing it wasn't gonna happen.  And no way was I going to work in a golf shop for the rest of my life.....I wanted to be the member....not wait on the the member.   I graduated the year Tiger was a freshman so I never got to play against him (I'm 38).  I did get to play aginst Phil a lot in college.  I grew up playing against Tim Herron and Cam Beckman (Minnesota), and my college roommate was Paul McGinley (European Tour multiple winner and Ryder cup player).  I have competed against a lot of tour players...Rich Beem, Tim Petrovic, Shane Bertsch, Notah Begay, Bob Burns, Brent Gieberger, Dana Quigley and many others you probably wouldn't recognize.   The lowest I ever got my handicap was +2.  I never really had the ability to take it low like the guys on tour can.  66 was the lowest I ever shot in an actual mini tour event....and that didn't win!  I was the guy shooting 71 to74 all the time donating my money to the guys shooting 65 on a regular basis.  
Jul 28, 2008 4:36 pm

i usually golf late afternoon on sunday to pick up a quick 9 or sometimes even 18.  if you show up at the local muni around 4:00 sunday afternoon, i can pretty much guarantee you there will be another middle aged or 60 year old professional walking solo or in a group of 2.  it is pretty easy to hook up with him (or them) and finish a round out.  i usually meet 3-4 clients a year this way, but also make 10-15 solid contacts and get my name out there.  it is an easy time to find guys “floating,” not in a foursome.