Stock mkt

Nov 17, 2009 2:08 pm

Nov 17, 2009 2:11 pm

GREAT NEWS FOR THE MKT TO CONTINUE IT"S UPWARD CLIMB



Mortgage loan delinquency (the ratio of borrowers 60 or more days past due) increased for the 11th straight quarter, hitting an all-time national average high of 6.25 percent for the third quarter of 2009, according to credit rating firm TransUnion. At the current rate, delinquencies would hit a one-year high this year.



Nov 17, 2009 4:34 pm

Nov 17, 2009 4:52 pm

Buffett purchased preferred shares in US Airways (LCC: 3.33 -0.05 -1.48%) in the early 1990’s, and later remarked that this was one of his biggest mistakes. Now before getting to far into this it is worthwhile to comment that Buffett did in fact end up making a profit on his holdings of US Airways but Buffett certainly cannot claim credit for this. In his own words:



“Two changes at the company coincided with its remarkable rebound: 1) Charlie and I left the board of directors and 2) Stephen Wolf became CEO. Fortunately for our egos, the second event was the key…” Warren Buffett, Bershire Hathaway Letter 1997.



A few years after purchasing Buffett had pretty much written off the investment and had tried to sell out of the stock numerous times at a substantial discount. The investment had essentially become out of control and Buffett wanted out.

Nov 17, 2009 5:01 pm

Congratulation …Way to go everyone 2nd place. Keep up the good work.

Maybe you can be # 1 next year



Nov 17, 2009 5:03 pm

[quote=THE BUBBLE GROWS]Congratulation …Way to go everyone 2nd place. Keep up the good work.

Maybe you can be # 1 next year



[/quote]

How do you figure number 2?  Looks like number 1 to me.

Do you know how to read a chart?

Nov 17, 2009 5:07 pm

Good point Moraen. I stand corrected. In that case WAY TO GO TEAM. I’m very proud of all of you. Keep up the good work. That’s what makes America great

Nov 17, 2009 5:39 pm

Mel

here is one FACT.



You started your bear rant at spx 1040ish.



You have been WRONG.





Nov 17, 2009 5:41 pm

Again with the Mel talk. Who is this Mel guy you keep talking about?

Nov 17, 2009 8:33 pm

here is an experiment for everyone. get a few pieces of bubble yum

and blow a bubble. do you notice the bigger the bubble gets , the bigger the mess is when it pops

Nov 17, 2009 8:38 pm

I understand the fraud within the financial services sector, but what was the fraud in the retail, wholesale, and distribution sector?  Did Sam’s sell a bunch of folks tap water again? 

  Oh yeah, who's your source on that piece? 
Nov 18, 2009 1:50 am
THE BUBBLE GROWS:

Congratulation …Way to go everyone 2nd place. Keep up the good work.
Maybe you can be # 1 next year

I'm a little confused.  Title says, "Average amount lost to fraud in previous 3 years."  Chart shows two years.  Since these are yearly numbers, what's being averaged?  Is the financial services column per company, per state, per sector (banking, investment, insurance, etc), per person, per transaction, what?  This is meaningless. Did you screw up your spreadsheet, mel?
Nov 18, 2009 1:57 am

You know, it kind of looks like the sector allocation recommendations at Jones.

Nov 18, 2009 2:37 am
RicRelo:

[quote=THE BUBBLE GROWS]Congratulation …Way to go everyone 2nd place. Keep up the good work. Maybe you can be # 1 next year

I’m a little confused. Title says, “Average amount lost to fraud in previous 3 years.” Chart shows two years. Since these are yearly numbers, what’s being averaged? Is the financial services column per company, per state, per sector (banking, investment, insurance, etc), per person, per transaction, what? This is meaningless.





Did you screw up your spreadsheet, mel?[/quote]





the basic idea here is that you are a crook. That’s basically the definition of a retail broker. and why are you calling me Mel ?
Nov 18, 2009 3:08 am

You do know that this is a chart about the financial services companies BEING defrauded, right? And only 12% of that loss (according to Kroll risk management here is the link http://www.directorship.com/kroll-global/) is compliance related/regulatory breach.

Nov 18, 2009 3:19 am
Moraen:

You do know that this is a chart about the financial services companies BEING defrauded, right? And only 12% of that loss (according to Kroll risk management here is the link Directorship Magazine | NACD) is compliance related/regulatory breach.




yeh, but I like to put a spin on it ...just like CNBC puts a spin on how all of the negative news out there is actually good for the mkt.
Nov 18, 2009 3:29 am

[quote=THE BUBBLE GROWS] [quote=RicRelo] [quote=THE BUBBLE GROWS]Congratulation …Way to go everyone 2nd place. Keep up the good work. Maybe you can be # 1 next year [/quote]

I'm a little confused.  Title says, "Average amount lost to fraud in previous 3 years."  Chart shows two years.  Since these are yearly numbers, what's being averaged?  Is the financial services column per company, per state, per sector (banking, investment, insurance, etc), per person, per transaction, what?  This is meaningless.


Did you screw up your spreadsheet, mel?[/quote]


the basic idea here is that you are a crook. That's basically the definition of a retail broker. and why are you calling me Mel ?[/quote] So you're using industry statistics to show individuals are crooks?  Ok, I'll let you equate individuals with their respective industry.   Back to my questions...what is it that your cute chart with pretty colors tells me?  
Nov 18, 2009 3:32 am

I will equate Ricello to his Family. He gives AWESOME head!!!

Nov 18, 2009 3:34 am

Are you a financial Advisor ?

Yes-- then you basically provide very little service to people and charge them an outrageous fee for something that they could do just as well ( or better ) on their own for 1/2 the cost. Maybe crook is too strong of a word…how about worthless instead

Nov 18, 2009 3:35 am

This is obviously a made up chart.  Uses the 10 core S&P sectors and list two years of results in a chart claiming to be for 3 years.  Not even a good attempt.

Nov 18, 2009 3:37 am
Jebediah:

This is obviously a made up chart. Uses the 10 core S&P sectors and list two years of results in a chart claiming to be for 3 years. Not even a good attempt.



What are you even talking about?
Nov 18, 2009 3:46 am

MLGONE work it slower and Ricelo be nice to my b*lls. You two are GOOD! OOHHHHH don’t snowball. Oh well, you two enjoy that treat however you like

Nov 18, 2009 3:56 am
mlgone:

Ummm shine boy

when exactly are you going to “make it as real as it gets” and kick my ass?

still waiting loudmouth

still waiting loudmouth

  Don't swallow. Oh well, old habits die hard....My little B*TCH!
Nov 18, 2009 4:15 am
THE BUBBLE GROWS:

Are you a financial Advisor ?
Yes-- then you basically provide very little service to people and charge them an outrageous fee for something that they could do just as well ( or better ) on their own for 1/2 the cost. Maybe crook is too strong of a word…how about worthless instead

Is that you're point here, bubbles?  You come on to an FA forum and diss the industry? Seriously, back to your chart.  WTF does it mean?  Credit card fraud is out of control?  Way to many checks are being forged?  The number of people who put erroneous info on mortgage applications is staggering?  What? You had a point, yes?  What was it?  Did you have a point, or do you just like colors?  (go ahead, diss my family instead of answering)
Nov 19, 2009 7:23 am

Wow. We have a new retard on this board.   

Nov 19, 2009 1:33 pm
skbroker:

Wow. We have a new retard on this board.   




Do you always speak of yourself in the third person.

Looks like the S & P in moving back below the 1100.. the bubble is slowly deflating
Nov 19, 2009 2:22 pm
mlgone:

keep posting. You’ll be right someday. someday




Keep telling your clients to buy...they'll get crushed one day . SOON
Nov 19, 2009 2:38 pm
mlgone:

your an idiot



funny, that's exactly what you clients are gonna be saying about you soon
Nov 19, 2009 2:53 pm

Nov 19, 2009 3:18 pm

You really love bears.

 
Nov 19, 2009 3:20 pm

[quote=Wet_Blanket] You really love bears.



[/quote]





Did you put that on a tripod with a timer or did someone take the photo for you.
Nov 19, 2009 3:24 pm

[quote=Wet_Blanket]You really love bears.

  [/quote]

 I nominate for best retort of the month.
Nov 19, 2009 3:25 pm


Did you put that on a tripod with a timer or did someone take the photo for you.

I nominate for most lame response.

Nov 19, 2009 3:31 pm

The delinquency rate for mortgage loans on one-to-four-unit residential properties rose to a seasonally adjusted rate of 9.64 percent of all loans outstanding as of the end of the third quarter of 2009, up 40 basis points from the second quarter and up 265 basis points from one year ago, the MBA said in its National Delinquency Survey.

 

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits were flat at a seasonally adjusted 505,000 in the week ended Nov. 14, the Labor Department said. However, the four-week moving average of claims dropped to its lowest in almost a year.

Meaningless- Stocks average 10% a year meletio. Go long or be wrong!!!!!
Nov 19, 2009 3:50 pm

[quote=BigKahuna] The delinquency rate for mortgage loans on one-to-four-unit residential properties rose to a seasonally adjusted rate of 9.64 percent of all loans outstanding as of the end of the third quarter of 2009, up 40 basis points from the second quarter and up 265 basis points from one year ago, the MBA said in its National Delinquency Survey.





<P =textBlack>Initial claims for state unemployment benefits were flat at a seasonally adjusted 505,000 in the week ended Nov. 14, the Labor Department said. However, the four-week moving average of claims dropped to its lowest in almost a year.



Meaningless- Stocks average 10% a year meletio. Go long or be wrong!!![/quote]



as of 10/31/09 S & P returns

1 year-9.8%, 3 year–( 7.02 % )5 year-( .33 % ) 10 year-( .95 % )





Reading your post I realize you are ignorant, so to let you know the Parenthesis mean negative. I hope you make up sh*t better to your clients
Nov 19, 2009 3:53 pm

Much better! Also, I have one hundred years of data to back me up. You have 10.

Nov 19, 2009 3:56 pm
BigKahuna:

Much better! Also, I have one hundred years of data to back me up. You have 10.




The problem is, how many clients do you have that been investing 100 years. will you last the next 100 years. You are retail broker. Gee mr. Client , I know the mkt is flat over the past 10 years and you haven't made jack sh*t compared to my fees, but relax...the mkt has average 10 % over the past 100 years. Good spin on it
Nov 19, 2009 4:00 pm
THE BUBBLE GROWS:

[quote=BigKahuna] Much better! Also, I have one hundred years of data to back me up. You have 10.[/quote]


The problem is, how many clients do you have that been investing 100 years. will you last the next 100 years. You are retail broker. Gee mr. Client , I know the mkt is flat over the past 10 years and you haven’t made jack sh*t compared to my fees, but relax…the mkt has average 10 % over the past 100 years. Good spin on it

  What if we discuss the last 20? or 30? I'll bet most invest for that long? You failed and you're a failure. Only thing lost with a buy and hold strategy is opportunity. Very few have ever been able to properly time, so why try. Also, you failed.
Nov 19, 2009 4:02 pm

Betting Against Equities Is a ‘Fool’s Game’: Strategist

Nov 19, 2009 4:14 pm

[quote=THE BUBBLE GROWS] [quote=BigKahuna]


as of 10/31/09 S & P returns
1 year-9.8%, 3 year--( 7.02 % )5 year-( .33 % ) 10 year-( .95 % )


[/quote]   Thank you for providing the SINGLE best bull case for me.   NEXT decade return after investing   AFTER the 4 worst rolling 10 year periods?:   17.78%  (priceless)   (this 10 year period IS the worst)   (your looking out back window,mel)  
Nov 19, 2009 4:16 pm

[quote=mlgone][quote=Wet_Blanket]You really love bears.

  [/quote]   that is one of the funniest post I have ever seen.  well played[/quote]   You there, hey you, bear fcker, do you need assistance?
Nov 19, 2009 4:44 pm

Nov 19, 2009 4:46 pm

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Nov 19, 2009 4:55 pm

Everyone stay calm…it doesn’t matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years.

Nov 19, 2009 4:58 pm
mlgone:

jesus. how many email accounts have your created mel? that must be some spreadsheet





Everyone stay calm..it doesn't matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years.
Nov 19, 2009 5:25 pm

Yo mel

down day

better start trash talking

you bears only have HOURS to be right



funny

Nov 19, 2009 5:28 pm


Everyone stay calm…it doesn’t matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years.

Nov 19, 2009 5:29 pm
Shania Twain:

Yo mel
down day
better start trash talking
you bears only have HOURS to be right

funny

  You were right for ten years. I was right for 18 months. Who won? It's not length of time, it's magnitude.  You will be wrong in a big way soon. Enjoy your__________time. I'm sure mine will be shorter, however I will profit and you will NOT
Nov 19, 2009 5:34 pm

You will NEVER see Mar. 6 2009 SPX 666 again.



Ever



(except when Jesus comes back)



ps jesus is a MAJOR bull.

he went long mar 6.   Great trader. seems to know things somehow

Nov 19, 2009 5:37 pm

[quote=Shania Twain] You will NEVER see Mar. 6 2009 SPX 666 again.



Ever



(except when Jesus comes back)



ps jesus is a MAJOR bull.

he went long mar 6.   Great trader. seems to know things somehow [/quote]





jesus is a fictional character invented so weak people could have something to fall back on

Nov 19, 2009 5:46 pm



Mel, i love you brother.

But the small investor is ALWAYS wrong.   

That is YOU.

The peanut e-tradin little bicths that loss their money and close their accounts.

The small guy aint in. the small guy is a bear   the small guy will be wrong.
Nov 19, 2009 5:52 pm
Shania Twain:




Mel, i love you brother.

But the small investor is ALWAYS wrong.   

That is YOU.

The peanut e-tradin little bicths that loss their money and close their accounts.

The small guy aint in. the small guy is a bear   the small guy will be wrong.

  COMPLETE fiction. The small guy is the only one dumb enough to buy this rally. You better believe in big govt. bc that's what you're betting on
Nov 19, 2009 6:18 pm

[quote=mlgone] mel



your an idiot[/quote]







Everyone stay calm…it doesn’t matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years.
Nov 19, 2009 6:31 pm

[quote=What Me Worry] [quote=mlgone] mel



your an idiot[/quote]







Everyone stay calm…it doesn’t matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years. [/quote]



you know what’s funny meletio? i’ll tell ya.



just when i feel as though i’ve read the most retarded and illogical post from you <<>>, you come right back with something even more dense!!!



there’s a retardio on every forum, i guess
Nov 19, 2009 6:40 pm
howboutshoeshine:

[quote=Shania Twain] Mel, i love you brother. But the small investor is ALWAYS wrong.    That is YOU. The peanut e-tradin little bicths that loss their money and close their accounts. The small guy aint in. the small guy is a bear   the small guy will be wrong.



COMPLETE fiction. The small guy is the only one dumb enough to buy this rally. You better believe in big govt. bc that’s what you’re betting on[/quote]





Small guy always wrong



look at any monster cheap no load (John Boogle)



fund return: 15% per year



actual INVESTOR return:   negative



small guy in cash, govies.   he will be wrong



he is YOU.



when trim tabs has your peeps piling in Emerg mark and small caps (when “things look better”)



that will be a top



i say spx 1700ish
Nov 19, 2009 7:28 pm

I forgot

Nov 19, 2009 11:03 pm

[quote=Mr. Sunshine] [quote=What Me Worry] [quote=mlgone] mel



your an idiot[/quote]







Everyone stay calm…it doesn’t matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years. [/quote]



you know what’s funny meletio? i’ll tell ya.



just when i feel as though i’ve read the most retarded and illogical post from you <<>>, you come right back with something even more dense!!!



there’s a retardio on every forum, i guess[/quote]









Everyone stay calm…it doesn’t matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years.