Dow 10,000
so much cash
so many missed
bears sound so stupid
a wonderful , wonderful thing
going so much higher.
(dont get fooled-
remember the REAL story:
BRIC.
monster,massive growing global economy!)
(fritz? you there?)
Just watching NBC nightly national news, shows clip of a lady excited watching the DOW cross 10,000 in 1999. Yippee I am excited!! only took 10 years to be even. Wonder if we will be as lucky in 2019 and still be at 10,000!!
Just watching NBC nightly national news, shows clip of a lady excited watching the DOW cross 10,000 in 1999. Yippee I am excited!! only took 10 years to be even. Wonder if we will be as lucky in 2019 and still be at 10,000!!
Stop looking out the back window.
US gdp is 45% larger then in was in 1999 PLUS the monster global economy.
You make some powerful points.[quote=fritz] Just watching NBC nightly national news, shows clip of a lady excited watching the DOW cross 10,000 in 1999. Yippee I am excited!! only took 10 years to be even. Wonder if we will be as lucky in 2019 and still be at 10,000!![/quote]
Stop looking out the back window.
US gdp is 45% larger then in was in 1999 PLUS the monster global economy.
Very interesting.....Wonder why the market has gone nowhere??? Maybe GDP is not a good indicator of the stock market? What do ya think? I beleive the 90"s were created by the destruction of the pension and introduction of the 401k. Also, the mass use of the mutual fund. That will drive the ask straight up. However, when a large portion of the world gears back on consumption and begins systematic withdrawls you get the 2000's. ( Baby Boomers)[quote=fritz] Just watching NBC nightly national news, shows clip of a lady excited watching the DOW cross 10,000 in 1999. Yippee I am excited!! only took 10 years to be even. Wonder if we will be as lucky in 2019 and still be at 10,000!![/quote]
Stop looking out the back window.
US gdp is 45% larger then in was in 1999 PLUS the monster global economy.
[quote=Shania Twain] [quote=fritz] What do ya think? I beleive the 90"s were created by the destruction of the pension and introduction of the 401k. Also, the mass use of the mutual fund. That will drive the ask straight up. However, when a large portion of the world gears back on consumption and begins systematic withdrawls you get the 2000’s. ( Baby Boomers)
dude. I am a horrible speller and my grammar sucks but, this is your second post and I have no clue what the fukc you are talking about.
[quote=iceco1d]A large portion of the world gears back on consumption and begins systematic withdrawals? Are you on crack? What part of globalization do you not understand? BRIC economies are where the USA was in the 50s. Those 4 economies account for 1/3+ of the world’s population.
You run your mouth a lot in 1 day. Exactly what do you do Mr. Shoeshine? You claim to have forgotten more about investing taking a leak than we ever knew. I’ll bite, lets chat. Enlighten me.
You go long and short? You invest in commodities & currency? Wow, I’m awe struck. Gee golly, I bet you use options too!
All this knowledge, and you can’t come up with a better allegation than “the Dow is at the same level it was 10 years ago, none of your clients made money since then losers!”
Try harder (Putsy?).
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options are for suckers. You can’t win. What do you want to know? How real investors make money? what? Eplain the buy and hold scam? what. Explain one thing to me genious…Where is all the volume?? no withdrawals? are you insane? Half the players in the game? Or can’t you read volume!!! This is short covering and people like you. Should I explain how short covering works and it’s ramifications to you? I never said I didn’t make money, but I garauntee you didn’t!!!
options are for suckers. You can’t win. What do you want to know? How real investors make money? what? Eplain the buy and hold scam? what. Explain one thing to me genious…Where is all the volume?? no withdrawals? are you insane? Half the players in the game? Or can’t you read volume!!! This is short covering and people like you. Should I explain how short covering works and it’s ramifications to you? I never said I didn’t make money, but I garauntee you didn’t!!!
Thanks for sharing.
Your a fukcing idiot.
From the <SPAN =yshortcuts id=lw_1255582409_4>National Association of Business Economists: Q3 real GDP growth 3.4% at an annual rate (versus 0.7% in May) & 2.4% for Q4,up from 1.8% in the May survey. For all of 2010, the consensus sees 3.0% real GDP growth, up from 2.7% in May. So, the <SPAN =yshortcuts id=lw_1255582409_5 style=": none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">S&P has surged over 20% over a time period in which the growth outlook has soared…drum roll please… 30 bps.
80% of the economicsts believe the recession is over. So why does the other 20% say no? As of now, about 80% of the S&P 500 companies have so far beaten consensus . But since everyone has basically said no one will grow and cut all estimates anyways to about 25% less than from what they already showed going down from recession profits of a year ago. So since every company is doing a great job of cutting everything, ceo’s aren’t putting the “growth” back into the companies. Laadie freakin dah!
OH....and there's about 1-2 trillion sitting on the sidelines....yeah 10,000 Dow. Go get it 'em....
You’re retarded if you think this market is “back.” Just give your assets to someone in the corner office if you’re riding that train to Walmart cashier central.
[quote=Shania Twain]so much cash
so many missed
bears sound so stupid
a wonderful , wonderful thing
going so much higher.
[/quote]
If you really believe this, there’s no hope for you.
[quote=iceco1d]Fwiw,
I'm not trying to insinuate that this is a sustainable bull market, or that the recession is over. All I'm insinuating at this point is that Shoeshine is arrogant and illiterate. [/quote] x2I love reading you idiots, it’s like listening to a bunch of trainees and branch managers talk. Not one of you has mentioned anything that isn’t on CNBC or what you were told. Again, you are all pikers that waste far to much time on this blog. A prediction for ya…Market blows out the lows. ta ta for now.
I love reading you idiots, it’s like listening to a bunch of trainees and branch managers talk. Not one of you has mentioned anything that isn’t on CNBC or what you were told. Again, you are all pikers that waste far to much time on this blog. A prediction for ya…Market blows out the lows. ta ta for now.
Shoeshine = Queer
If one had put their money in a short-term Treasury bill the first time the Dow pushed above 10,000 and simply rolled over the proceeds of the bill at each maturity (and the interest), one would have a better return on their investment today, without any market risk. The index first pushed above 10,000 on March 29, 1999, 10½ years ago. Jim notes that since then, it closed above the 10,000 level 1,859 times Moraen= BIG producer lol!!! This is more fun than I thought!![quote=howboutshoeshine] I love reading you idiots, it’s like listening to a bunch of trainees and branch managers talk. Not one of you has mentioned anything that isn’t on CNBC or what you were told. Again, you are all pikers that waste far to much time on this blog. A prediction for ya…Market blows out the lows. ta ta for now.[/quote]
Shoeshine = Queer
[quote=Moraen] [quote=howboutshoeshine] I love reading you idiots, it’s like listening to a bunch of trainees and branch managers talk. Not one of you has mentioned anything that isn’t on CNBC or what you were told. Again, you are all pikers that waste far to much time on this blog. A prediction for ya…Market blows out the lows. ta ta for now.[/quote] Shoeshine = Queer
If one had put their money in a short-term Treasury bill the first time the Dow pushed above 10,000 and simply rolled over the proceeds of the bill at each maturity (and the interest), one would have a better return on their investment today, without any market risk.
The index first pushed above 10,000 on March 29, 1999, 10½ years ago. Jim notes that since then, it closed above the 10,000 level 1,859 times
Moraen= BIG producer lol!!!
This is more fun than I thought!!
[/quote]
You know what else is fun? Cashforgold.com. Gold sold there makes way more than any of your lousy investment ideas!
[quote=Ed McMahon] [quote=howboutshoeshine] [quote=Moraen] [quote=howboutshoeshine] I love reading you idiots, it’s like listening to a bunch of trainees and branch managers talk. Not one of you has mentioned anything that isn’t on CNBC or what you were told. Again, you are all pikers that waste far to much time on this blog. A prediction for ya…Market blows out the lows. ta ta for now.[/quote] Shoeshine = Queer [/quote]
If one had put their money in a short-term Treasury bill the first time the Dow pushed above 10,000 and simply rolled over the proceeds of the bill at each maturity (and the interest), one would have a better return on their investment today, without any market risk.
The index first pushed above 10,000 on March 29, 1999, 10½ years ago. Jim notes that since then, it closed above the 10,000 level 1,859 times
Moraen= BIG producer lol!!!
This is more fun than I thought!!
[/quote]
You know what else is fun? Cashforgold.com. Gold sold there makes way more than any of your lousy investment ideas![/quote] Gold was $850 an oz. in January of 1980. Sorry.Wrong. Nice try though, I see where you were going with that.
[quote=Moraen] [quote=howboutshoeshine] I love reading you idiots, it’s like listening to a bunch of trainees and branch managers talk. Not one of you has mentioned anything that isn’t on CNBC or what you were told. Again, you are all pikers that waste far to much time on this blog. A prediction for ya…Market blows out the lows. ta ta for now.[/quote] Shoeshine = Queer
If one had put their money in a short-term Treasury bill the first time the Dow pushed above 10,000 and simply rolled over the proceeds of the bill at each maturity (and the interest), one would have a better return on their investment today, without any market risk.
The index first pushed above 10,000 on March 29, 1999, 10½ years ago. Jim notes that since then, it closed above the 10,000 level 1,859 times
Moraen= BIG producer lol!!!
This is more fun than I thought!!
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And you’re still gay.
[quote=Ed McMahon] [quote=howboutshoeshine] [quote=Moraen] [quote=howboutshoeshine] I love reading you idiots, it’s like listening to a bunch of trainees and branch managers talk. Not one of you has mentioned anything that isn’t on CNBC or what you were told. Again, you are all pikers that waste far to much time on this blog. A prediction for ya…Market blows out the lows. ta ta for now.[/quote] Shoeshine = Queer
If one had put their money in a short-term Treasury bill the first time the Dow pushed above 10,000 and simply rolled over the proceeds of the bill at each maturity (and the interest), one would have a better return on their investment today, without any market risk.
The index first pushed above 10,000 on March 29, 1999, 10½ years ago. Jim notes that since then, it closed above the 10,000 level 1,859 times
Moraen= BIG producer lol!!!
This is more fun than I thought!!
[/quote] You know what else is fun? Cashforgold.com. Gold sold there makes way more than any of your lousy investment ideas![/quote]
Gold was $850 an oz. in January of 1980. Sorry.Wrong. Nice try though, I see where you were going with that.[/quote]
No sir! You are wrong. In fact, I’ll bet you don’t even manage money. I think you were the young man that cleaned my golden toilets (which I sold at a great price at cashforgold.com) in my McMansion. No?
Nope. Wasn’t me. I am not wrong either.
Morean still has no clue and never will. Oh ya.....He's a BIG producer! LMFAOok. keep holding your cash.You’re retarded if you think this market is “back.” Just give your assets to someone in the corner office if you’re riding that train to Walmart cashier central.
meleto DBA easy$$ AKA howboutshoeshine duh[quote=howboutshoeshine] I love reading you idiots, it’s like listening to a bunch of trainees and branch managers talk. Not one of you has mentioned anything that isn’t on CNBC or what you were told. Again, you are all pikers that waste far to much time on this blog. A prediction for ya…Market blows out the lows. ta ta for now.[/quote]
[quote=howboutshoeshine] Nope. Wasn’t me. I am not wrong either.
Morean still has no clue and never will. Oh ya…He’s a BIG producer! LMFAO[/quote]
Hey gay boy. Can you even calculate the DJIA? Quick. I’ll give you a minute to respond. If you can’t do it by then, I don’t want to hear that you know anything about the market.
[quote=howboutshoeshine] Nope. Wasn’t me. I am not wrong either.
Morean still has no clue and never will. Oh ya…He’s a BIG producer! LMFAO[/quote]
No, that was you! I remember, instead of cleaning toilets you would walk around saying "how about a shoeshine?"
Since I was wearing golden shoes, I just wanted you to clean toilets. I miss those days! How is your sister? She sure was beautiful!
This is getting weird.
Ok. Next question. What is the directional bias of the Dow? Why is it that direction?
Also, just so you know I never claimed to be a big producer. I’m not great at selling. What I am good at is managing and motivating and financial analysis and forecasting.
And you. Well… you’re gay.
What’s wrong shoeshine? I thought this was fun for you.
Here’s a hint: It’s why Dow 10,000 ten years ago isn’t the same as the Dow 10,000 now. Does that help?
It’s no use Moraen, he can’t answer. I have him cleaning my toilets. I told you, he’s not a broker.
Ok shoeshine - I’m going to lunch. Give me a call on your Mom’s cell when you figure it out. If you forgot it, the number is 888-UR-QUEER.
Hey gayboy- I mean shoeshine. Back from my extended nooner with your freaky-deaky Mom. Three hours isn’t enough time to look up the answers.
Get a new name and try to post more crap.
And don’t put your big sister’s laptop on Ed McMahon’s toilet while you’re cleaning it. You’ll keep breaking it.
You are a bigger deushe than I thought. WOW! tricky question. Do you mean dividends. Here's a real question. Why were GOOG's call absolutely slammed today while the puts went nowhere? Now, the market is closed so you already have the answer, but you will have no idea how to answer this!!! I won't respond to anything else you said because I know your anger comes from frustration.Hey gayboy- I mean shoeshine. Back from my extended nooner with your freaky-deaky Mom. Three hours isn’t enough time to look up the answers.
Get a new name and try to post more crap.
And don’t put your big sister’s laptop on Ed McMahon’s toilet while you’re cleaning it. You’ll keep breaking it.
[quote=iceco1d]
MEMO #001 - HOWABOUTSHOESHINE
Item #1: "Deushe" = Douche Item #2: Capitalization @ the start of your sentences helps, as does consistency in usage of the rule. Item #3: Punctuation is your friend. This symbol, "?" should be used when asking a question, for future reference.[/quote] you're an english teacher? just try and respond to the comment.Now it's all at you English teacher. Try to comprehend that and address market issuesWhich of those comments was directed at me? I wasn’t aware you were speaking to me (although, I can’t be blamed, since you communicate so poorly, everything you post needs to be deciphered before it can be comprehended). Was that lesson in capitalization too difficult for you?
The option question is very easy…
Why would a call fall 50-75% in value while the coinciding put does not move? Now, you can't google this so I think you're all screwed!!! I'm sure you'll call me names like third graders, but I would love an answer.Most of the brokers I know have no money (except for taking a check, which they proceed to lose quickly) . Is that the case that most see? I always wonder how brokers have no money and they think they can tell a client what they should do with theirs?
[quote=iceco1d]
MEMO #001 - HOWABOUTSHOESHINE
Item #1: “Deushe” = Douche
Item #2: Capitalization @ the start of your sentences helps, as does consistency in usage of the rule.
Item #3: Punctuation is your friend. This symbol, “?” should be used when asking a question, for future reference.[/quote]
icecold!!!
please say he is worse then me?!!!
I dont sound this fukcing retarded? do i?
please say no
deushe??? please iceman please say no
[quote=Shania Twain] [quote=iceco1d]
MEMO #001 - HOWABOUTSHOESHINE
Item #1: "Deushe" = Douche
Item #2: Capitalization @ the start of your sentences helps, as does consistency in usage of the rule.
Item #3: Punctuation is your friend. This symbol, "?" should be used when asking a question, for future reference.[/quote]
icecold!!!!
please say he is worse then me?!!!
I dont sound this fukcing retarded? do i?
please say no
deushe????? please iceman please say no[/quote] I give everyone of you an A for insults and an F for any market knowledge. Now, all you need to do is get a job being that clown on the dunk tank. Maybe I should have used the screen name " anotherdunkplease" Good luck. You will all need it.
[quote=fritz]
Most of the brokers I know have no money (except for taking a check, which they proceed to lose quickly) . Is that the case that most see? I always wonder how brokers have no money and they think they can tell a client what they should do with theirs?
[/quote]Many plumbers dont have the best of plumbing at home. Surprising amount of lawyers dont have wills. I know unhealthy doctors who dont take proper care of themselves. Doesnt make them bad at what they do, however. I have used bad personal investment experiences to my clients advantage. Wont let them make same mistakes.
[quote=showmethemoney] [quote=fritz]
Most of the brokers I know have no money (except for taking a check, which they proceed to lose quickly) . Is that the case that most see? I always wonder how brokers have no money and they think they can tell a client what they should do with theirs?
[/quote]Many plumbers dont have the best of plumbing at home. Surprising amount of lawyers dont have wills. I know unhealthy doctors who dont take proper care of themselves. Doesnt make them bad at what they do, however. I have used bad personal investment experiences to my clients advantage. Wont let them make same mistakes.
[/quote] intelligent answer.
[quote=howboutshoeshine] The option question is very easy…
Why would a call fall 50-75% in value while the coinciding put does not move?
Now, you can’t google this so I think you’re all screwed!!! I’m sure you’ll call me names like third graders, but I would love an answer.[/quote]
premium priced into calls and puts prior to news.
basis for VIX pricing and it being a measure of risk expectations
duh
[quote=Shania Twain] [quote=howboutshoeshine] The option question is very easy…
Why would a call fall 50-75% in value while the coinciding put does not move?
Now, you can't google this so I think you're all screwed!!! I'm sure you'll call me names like third graders, but I would love an answer.[/quote]
premium priced into calls and puts prior to news.
basis for VIX pricing and it being a measure of risk expectations
duh
[/quote] This is the day before the news is announced and you are still wrong! Nothing to do with risk. Has to do with price. hint hint. Don't say duh till you know the answer.
knowing how to read options helps any good trader know what the price action will be before the news is announced. This is over your head, but you don't need to know this to be a good advisor. Just making a point. I can appreciate your thought process. Shania, I saw your post about dow 10,000. Sometimes, listening to guys that actually make money in the market ( not your branch manager ) is a good idea. Art Cashin is a great example. I would LMFAO if anyone here tries to dog his credibility.
Who was the bigger fool, the guy that bailed out of the Nasdaq at 3,000 or the guy that round tripped it? The guy that roundtripped it felt pretty smart for 3 months![quote=howboutshoeshine]
knowing how to read options helps any good trader know what the price action will be before the news is announced. This is over your head, but you don’t need to know this to be a good advisor. Just making a point. I can appreciate your thought process. Shania, I saw your post about dow 10,000. Sometimes, listening to guys that actually make money in the market ( not your branch manager ) is a good idea. Art Cashin is a great example. I would LMFAO if anyone here tries to dog his credibility.
Who was the bigger fool, the guy that bailed out of the Nasdaq at 3,000 or the guy that round tripped it? The guy that roundtripped it felt pretty smart for 3 months![/quote]
great insights.
Thanks
you have really helped me.
No problem. I want to give the answer, but don’t want the " I knew that, but I was ___ at the time" Whether you beleive me, like me, hate me… pay attention to the Cashin statement.
No problem. I want to give the answer, but don’t want the " I knew that, but I was ___ at the time" Whether you beleive me, like me, hate me… pay attention to the Cashin statement.
OK thanks. you really know your stuff. you must have been trading for years!
I bet those specialists (the ones driving the Ferrars')on the CBO hate to see your orders coming!
The specialists are the smartest of all. Unfortunately, you and I will never be in that club. Wrong last name, college, etc. You have a piece of the option question answered and you don't even know it. FYI.... my orders are meaningless. I'm too lazy and arrogant to help those that need it. When I hear a moron speak to me as if he knows something because he read a book on MPT it makes me cringe! Also, I would never drive a ferrari, I would support my charities more. And no, that is not a jab, there is nothing wrong with spending your hard earned money. That's just not how I would spend it.[quote=howboutshoeshine] No problem. I want to give the answer, but don’t want the " I knew that, but I was ___ at the time" Whether you beleive me, like me, hate me… pay attention to the Cashin statement.[/quote]
OK thanks. you really know your stuff. you must have been trading for years!
I bet those specialists (the ones driving the Ferrars’)on the CBO hate to see your orders coming!
The specialists are the smartest of all. Unfortunately, you and I will never be in that club. Wrong last name, college, etc. You have a piece of the option question answered and you don’t even know it. FYI… my orders are meaningless. I’m too lazy and arrogant to help those that need it. When I hear a moron speak to me as if he knows something because he read a book on MPT it makes me cringe! Also, I would never drive a ferrari, I would support my charities more. And no, that is not a jab, there is nothing wrong with spending your hard earned money. That’s just not how I would spend it.[/quote][quote=Shania Twain] [quote=howboutshoeshine] No problem. I want to give the answer, but don’t want the " I knew that, but I was ___ at the time" Whether you beleive me, like me, hate me… pay attention to the Cashin statement.[/quote] OK thanks. you really know your stuff. you must have been trading for years! I bet those specialists (the ones driving the Ferrars’)on the CBO hate to see your orders coming!
Yes. You seem even smarter then them!
Keep up the great info
Showshine, everyone here knows you don’t manage money. Now please get back to tending my flower garden.
[quote=Moraen]Hey gayboy- I mean shoeshine. Back from my extended nooner with your freaky-deaky Mom. Three hours isn’t enough time to look up the answers. Get a new name and try to post more crap. And don’t put your big sister’s laptop on Ed McMahon’s toilet while you’re cleaning it. You’ll keep breaking it.
You are a bigger deushe than I thought. WOW! tricky question. Do you mean dividends.
Here’s a real question. Why were GOOG’s call absolutely slammed today while the puts went nowhere? Now, the market is closed so you already have the answer, but you will have no idea how to answer this!!! I won’t respond to anything else you said because I know your anger comes from frustration.[/quote]
No I didn’t mean dividends dipsh!t. How long did it take you to even develop a question?
I owned you just like your boyfriend did the night before last.
I asked you the first question, you couldn’t answer that. Not to mention there’s no way you didn’t check until 3:18. Remember, you were having fun?
Next piker, please.
So, basically you can’t calculate the DJIA, don’t know which directional bias it has, nor do you know WHY it is that direction?
Basic market knowledge. My daughter knows more about options trading than you from the Options for Dummies book. Clown.
Sorry. Gay clown.
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