EDJ Points System
For the folks familiar with the Jones model how effective do you think this points system would be? I utilized the basic format of one anonymous posted and adjusted for what I view as my ideal day.
35 Dials to ask for appt. or sale - 1pt 6 New face to face contacts - 1pt 2 appointments set - 1pt 2 appointments kept - 1pt Clear out my calendar - 1pt 7pt goal Bonus Points: Create a new client - 1ptJust clear out your calendar mutliple times and your set! lol
haha … 1pt limit for that item!
Volt, I use a point system. But my point totals are a little different - I try to get 15 to 20 points per day.
Seminars Calls Appts. Networking Events Biggest point totals are for Appointments and Seminars. Calls to prospects are more than clients. Really keeps me on track. Helps answer the question every week "WTF did I accomplish this week?"Would you mind sharing the specifics?
Joogle Jack Cahill. He has a nice point system that also implements acceleration.
Scratch that. Joogle Acceleration and motivation.[quote=B24]Volt, I use a point system. But my point totals are a little different - I try to get 15 to 20 points per day.
Seminars Calls Appts. Networking Events Biggest point totals are for Appointments and Seminars. Calls to prospects are more than clients. Really keeps me on track. Helps answer the question every week "WTF did I accomplish this week?"[/quote] He also gets an automatic 20 points if he can talk a client into letting him "Brokeback" him in his supply room.[quote=Ronnie Dobbs][quote=B24]Volt, I use a point system. But my point totals are a little different - I try to get 15 to 20 points per day.
Seminars Calls Appts. Networking Events Biggest point totals are for Appointments and Seminars. Calls to prospects are more than clients. Really keeps me on track. Helps answer the question every week "WTF did I accomplish this week?"[/quote] He also gets an automatic 20 points if he can talk a client into letting him "Brokeback" him in his supply room.[/quote] Ha! Ha! I guess you saw my "Brokeback Windy" comment on the other thread! Touche' ! Wind, you need to recruit someone onto this site that can be the new whipping-boy.[quote=voltmoie]
For the folks familiar with the Jones model how effective do you think this points system would be? I utilized the basic format of one anonymous posted and adjusted for what I view as my ideal day.
35 Dials to ask for appt. or sale - 1pt 6 New face to face contacts - 1pt 2 appointments set - 1pt 2 appointments kept - 1pt Clear out my calendar - 1pt 7pt goal Bonus Points: Create a new client - 1pt[/quote] I like this. The only thing I would avoid is the appt kept /appt set. By the dials and ftf the appts will come. There may be some days where you do 50+dials and 10 ftf and still not get or hold any appts. You don't want to feel like that day was a failure because it clearly wasnt. Just my thoughts.This is the system I use. I shoot for 20 points per day.
1. Making a phone call and asking the person you were trying to call for an appointment. 1 Point (Only counts if the person is a Qualified Lead)
3. Schedule any appointment with a Qualified Lead. 2 Points
4. Making any sale with worth over $1000.00 in recurring gross per year. 10 Points
5. Going to meeting with any group where you are trying to get Qualified Leads. 1 Point
6. Having any meal or coffee with any Qualified Lead. 1 Point.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
8. Meeting with any client to review insurance, portfolio, or Financial Plan, and see if their needs have changed. 2 Points.
9. Mailing out 10 letters, or handing out 10 cards. 1 Point.
10. Any appointment were you make pitch that will generate over $1000.00 in recurring gross per year. 2 point.
[quote=B24][quote=Ronnie Dobbs][quote=B24]Volt, I use a point system. But my point totals are a little different - I try to get 15 to 20 points per day.
Seminars Calls Appts. Networking Events Biggest point totals are for Appointments and Seminars. Calls to prospects are more than clients. Really keeps me on track. Helps answer the question every week "WTF did I accomplish this week?"[/quote] He also gets an automatic 20 points if he can talk a client into letting him "Brokeback" him in his supply room.[/quote] Ha! Ha! I guess you saw my "Brokeback Windy" comment on the other thread! Touche' ! Wind, you need to recruit someone onto this site that can be the new whipping-boy. [/quote] That would be Still@Jones if you ask me. He's definitly the d-bag of the year.My favorite is still the 500 point week… 100 points/day… All of this you can control accept the new account.
1pt- every new contact( like to substitute this for 0.10 points for every dial) 2pt- follow up to exisiting prospect 1pt- every client call 1pt-every hour worked 5pt-arriving to work by a set time(early morning) 5pt-each 30 minute appt 5pt-new account 1pt-marketing/mailer sent out(max 10 pts/day) For example: 5pts-arrive by 7am 10pts-mail out 10 pieces 10pts-10 hour day 25pts-250 new contact dials 5pts-appt 50pts-25 follow up calls exisiting prospects THAT is 95 points... which would probably generate a new account(5pts)=100day For a total of 275 calls, 1 (30 min) appt over 10 hours. So on average making 32 calls/hour(30 minute appt, plus 1 hour for lunch(excessive...but, don't lie to yourself)For example:
I am in going slow today... didn't get in til 8am(so no pts for arriving at 7am) going to work 9 hours today. So: 9pts-hours worked 10pts- already have my list of next 10 names to mail out(this turns into 50-60 week) 20pts-10 follow up calls with prospects 25pts- 250 dials So that is 64 pts today, 26 short... I could work longer, make more dials, open some accounts, or come in on saturday..Or hit my gross number for week(my own special system where I leave early on fridays and don't come in on saturday if I hit my weekly gross number by thursday(missed it, will be here tomorrow, where I owe the 26 pts for today plus another 29 points from early this week)I think I like the “weekly” system the best rather than the daily. That way if you have a bad Tuesday you still have the rest of the week to make it up. Good stuff.
Make sure you have a reward, beyond the business that it will generate, if you hit your point goals for the week. Squash said he takes time off. I don't know that I would do that if you're a new guy, but certainly vets can do that. It can be something simple like ice cream with the kids or MCDs for dinner on Friday. One of the GPs that I heard about this from when I was in HQ said he had a montly point system. If he hit his goals for the month, he bought a new tie. Jack Cahill, who was mentioned in another post, said he used the ice cream as his goal.
Doesn't have to be expensive, but there should be some tangible reward for getting the job done.I think if I have a good week and meet my points i'll bang the Nanny!
I said it didn’t need to be expensive. That one could cost you 1/2 of your 401k, 1/2 of your IRA, 1/2 of your house…
I said it didn’t need to be expensive. That one could cost you 1/2 of your 401k, 1/2 of your IRA, 1/2 of your house…
Child support, too, if you're not careful.
You guys worry to much. For week number two he’ll reward himself with a hitman.
[quote=Wet_Blanket]You guys worry to much. For week number two he’ll reward himself with a hitman.[/quote]
for the nanny or wife?
[quote=Spaceman Spiff]
Make sure you have a reward, beyond the business that it will generate, if you hit your point goals for the week. Squash said he takes time off. I don't know that I would do that if you're a new guy, but certainly vets can do that. It can be something simple like ice cream with the kids or MCDs for dinner on Friday. One of the GPs that I heard about this from when I was in HQ said he had a montly point system. If he hit his goals for the month, he bought a new tie. Jack Cahill, who was mentioned in another post, said he used the ice cream as his goal.
Doesn't have to be expensive, but there should be some tangible reward for getting the job done. [/quote] Cmon Spiff. Give me a break. Every single Jones or Ex Jones guy heard that exact crap, right out of the EJ playbook for "acceleration". Hearing this sh*t makes me physically ill. Take a half day off, go drink some beers with your buddies, take your wife out to dinner, go play golf. Do something worthwhile. This job is a grind. A neck tie, MCD's, or ice cream ? WTF!I think you just have to find what is meaningful to the individual. I promise it’s not ice cream, ties or MCD’s for me but to each their own. Hitting a bucket of balls, getting a massage with a happy ending, or a Friday afternoon movie is more my style.
Is that one in the same ?I think you just have to find what is meaningful to the individual. I promise it’s not ice cream, ties or MCD’s for me but to each their own. Hitting a bucket of balls, getting a massage with a happy ending, or a Friday afternoon movie is more my style.
That is so Spiff. Forget about reality and get some ice cream with the kids. Or really go out on a limb and buy yourself a tie....Before you file bankruptcy or spending all your hard earned cash, knock 6 thousand doors and sooner or later you find a nut. You crack the nut, and then you go out and knock on another 6 thousand doors. Whaddayaknow...another nut. Sooner or later you burn out and Jones is looking for another droid to stick in your place.
All the while Spiff is eating ice cream with his kids. Kumbayah. Are you in Seg 3 yet? Imagine a big picture of Tom and Jerrys Cherry Garcia instead of the picture with Ted and the horse....The conversation with clients/prospects; Mr. and Mrs. Prospect. Remember that corny picture of Ted Jones, I replaced it with something that reminds me to reward myself. Spiff...its time to realize you are overmatched. Maybe you should consider going back to home office.[quote=BigCheese]
That is so Spiff. Forget about reality and get some ice cream with the kids. Or really go out on a limb and buy yourself a tie…Before you file bankruptcy or spending all your hard earned cash, knock 6 thousand doors and sooner or later you find a nut. You crack the nut, and then you go out and knock on another 6 thousand doors. Whaddayaknow…another nut. Sooner or later you burn out and Jones is looking for another droid to stick in your place.
All the while Spiff is eating ice cream with his kids. Kumbayah. Are you in Seg 3 yet?
Imagine a big picture of Tom and Jerrys Cherry Garcia instead of the picture with Ted and the horse…The conversation with clients/prospects;
Mr. and Mrs. Prospect. Remember that corny picture of Ted Jones, I replaced it with something that reminds me to reward myself.
Spiff…its time to realize you are overmatched. Maybe you should consider going back to home office.[/quote]
Please share with us how to best grow your business when you start from scrath.
I did it. It isn’t easy. It’s hard work. 6 Days of the week. And on the seventh day I worked at home preparing for the next week. I NEVER doorknocked residences. Only businesses.
I never participated in those silly contest like Shamrock saturday. I offered solutions, I asked open-ended questions until I was blue. I NEVER REWARDED MYSELF WITH ICE CREAM or TIES.Boy that is vague…
Henry-
You are right. It was intentional. There isn't anything about this biz that is so unique. Except you and me. I found my niche was with seniors. So I learned everything I could regarding their concerns. I realized that prospecting for me was all about finding out everything that mattered to them. So I became an expert in my presentations, the words and phrases I used, were typically crafted to solicit important information.I asked the hard questions and I learned to shutup and listen. I focused on finding new money every day. My goal was modest at first 100K a day. Once I learned how to find it, then I focused on getting it. I didn't offer the best advice, just a consistent message. And when I promised something, I never ever apologized for NOT meeting that promise. After 3 months at Jones I realized that I should increase my daily goal to 250K of new money found every day. Soon I was seg 2 (I think it took me 9 months) and four months later I was seg 3. A year later I was seg 4, and the only difference was my daily goal (the same goal I have today by the way) which is to find 1M each and every day of money I didn't know existed. That could be a home being sold, or an employee who just transitioned, or an inheritance, or even an existing portfolio somewhere else. Finding the money is the key to the biz in my opinion. If you can't hunt you can't survive. At Jones I realized that while I was hunting I better be able at finding it before I can fix it. So what I controlled was HOW I prospected. And it worked. Now I am in my fourth year of independence from Jones. I thank them every day for helping me understand what it takes to be successful. I also thank them for allowing me to do it my way. So although you may not feel as if I have given you enough hard info...Henry...I hope you can take from my little ditty that what works for you is between your ears. Isolate what you feel is working. If nothing is, ask yourself what are you doing to change the result. At this stage find little wins, find lots of money, and be the best at dialogue, and learn how to listen. Clients need us more now than ever before. If you can learn how to hunt you will be a wanted commodity. Does that help?Windy?
Here is what I’ve learned most from this site. The guys who say they are killing it never share what they are doing. They never tell you how they did it. THEY JUST WALKED UP TWO HILLS IN SIX FEET OF SNOW to get it done. Whatever. I bet most of these idiots are low producers… the reason they can’t tell you how its done is because they’ve not done it. They give you vague answers and misdirection. I think they realize if they get specific the real studs will tear their BS answers apart.
The exception is Bondguy & Gaddock, they are pretty open about how they get it done. (a few others, i’m sure)
Volt - BigCheese has been on here a long time and has shared his ideas and strategies. He previously was under a different screen name. Don’t dismiss him because he rips on Jones. If you are going to dismiss every guy who rips Jones you will miss a lot of good info on this site. Spiff and his canned BS that is consistently right out of the EJ play book is embarrassing. You are smart enough to know it is a joke, especially in 3 years when you are on your own.
[quote=voltmoie]
Here is what I’ve learned most from this site. The guys who say they are killing it never share what they are doing. They never tell you how they did it. THEY JUST WALKED UP TWO HILLS IN SIX FEET OF SNOW to get it done. Whatever. I bet most of these idiots are low producers… the reason they can’t tell you how its done is because they’ve not done it. They give you vague answers and misdirection. I think they realize if they get specific the real studs will tear their BS answers apart.The exception is Bondguy & Gaddock, they are pretty open about how they get it done. (a few others, i’m sure)
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Volt, I think your message is being misdirected in this case.
I stand corrected then. His join date says July 2009.
[quote=voltmoie]
Here is what I’ve learned most from this site. The guys who say they are killing it never share what they are doing. They never tell you how they did it. THEY JUST WALKED UP TWO HILLS IN SIX FEET OF SNOW to get it done. Whatever. I bet most of these idiots are low producers… the reason they can’t tell you how its done is because they’ve not done it. They give you vague answers and misdirection. I think they realize if they get specific the real studs will tear their BS answers apart.The exception is Bondguy & Gaddock, they are pretty open about how they get it done. (a few others, i’m sure)
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Then when someone who is doing alright says how they do it, THEY ARE A LIAR! lol
Volt-
Changed my screen name from footsoldier to BigCheese for two reasons. First...had some technical issues that required that I change (new computers) and it just was alot easier to change. Second...Footsoldier (with all respect to our soldiers in combat) was how I felt at Jones and BigCheese says at least to me (that it is up to me no one else). My ideas have worked for almost thirteen years. I have a nice practice growing when many are contracting, and I think I have sustained when others have left. I think I know a few things about this biz. And as for ripping Jones.... Just my two cents again, but its THE place to learn to be independent at some point. Teaches you how to hunt, and once you learn the blocking and tackling, then you can really make a difference . Not saying you can't do it at Jones, it just didn't make sense for me to stay when I didn't feel like I was getting enough for what I was paying them.After careful consideration and reading all the suggestions I’m going to go forward with this system. It’s built around meeting my weekly prospecting goals. When I meet my points total for the week I can check out. Thanks for all the feedback.
100 pt. System
Arrive by 8am - 1pt
Five Calls - 1pt
Appointment Set - 1pt
New Contact - 1pt
Mail 5 Items - 1pt (3 points per week limit)
Clear Calendar - 1pt (3 points per week limit)
Ideal Day: 35 calls, 2 appointments set, 5/6 New contacts
** If any Jones reps want a copy of my tracking spreadsheet let me know. Happy to e-mail it.
And how do you reward yourself for achieving these points?
An ice cream with the family, or a new Jerry Garcia paisley tie...[quote=BigCheese]And how do you reward yourself for achieving these points?
An ice cream with the family, or a new Jerry Garcia paisley tie...[/quote] I'm gonna guess he'll go with HKA's idea.[quote=MsBroker][quote=BigCheese]And how do you reward yourself for achieving these points?
An ice cream with the family, or a new Jerry Garcia paisley tie...[/quote] I'm gonna guess he'll go with HKA's idea. [/quote] .....only because you aren't available!There is money everywhere if you pay attention. Last week, I was in the office after a meeting at about 10PM, saw the janitorial staff cleaning and said hello. They said hello back, one stopped by to ask me if the vacuum would bother me and asked if I would talk to someone that they knew that had 200K that they needed to take care of. I let them know that I would be glad to help.
Just like Bigcheese says....money is everywhere once you find it, try to get it...if you don't get it, figure out why. You will get better at your craft, the better you get the more solid swings you take and the more often that you hit a single or a double...... Just my two cents worth....Haha … My nanny is pretty cute.
Going to reward myself this week is a movie if I can hit my points total by 2pm on Friday. I'm at 14 points already for the day. I'm sure at somepoint I'll lose interest but it's been sort of fun this morning.[quote=Ron 14][quote=Spaceman Spiff]
Make sure you have a reward, beyond the business that it will generate, if you hit your point goals for the week. Squash said he takes time off. I don't know that I would do that if you're a new guy, but certainly vets can do that. It can be something simple like ice cream with the kids or MCDs for dinner on Friday. One of the GPs that I heard about this from when I was in HQ said he had a montly point system. If he hit his goals for the month, he bought a new tie. Jack Cahill, who was mentioned in another post, said he used the ice cream as his goal.
Doesn't have to be expensive, but there should be some tangible reward for getting the job done. [/quote] Cmon Spiff. Give me a break. Every single Jones or Ex Jones guy heard that exact crap, right out of the EJ playbook for "acceleration". Hearing this sh*t makes me physically ill. Take a half day off, go drink some beers with your buddies, take your wife out to dinner, go play golf. Do something worthwhile. This job is a grind. A neck tie, MCD's, or ice cream ? WTF! [/quote] OK, you're right. Never mind what I said. You should pound beers, hit golf balls, go to strip clubs, buy new cars, and have steak dinners. That's about as un-Jones as you can get. Sheesh...seriously? You're going to complain about the examples from people that I've heard talk about point systems before? MsBroker mentioned Jack Cahill in post #6, I thought it might be worthwhile to know how a guy like that, who built his business, got offered a GP with Jones, and is now living high on the hog (albeit with Jones, his life must suck) rewarded himself. Evidenlty it was Jones crap and not worth mentioning. To each his own.If eating steak, buying new cars, and hitting golf balls is un-Jones, I’m screwed then. Did two out of the three this weekend.
[quote=BigCheese]
That is so Spiff. Forget about reality and get some ice cream with the kids. Or really go out on a limb and buy yourself a tie....Before you file bankruptcy or spending all your hard earned cash, knock 6 thousand doors and sooner or later you find a nut. You crack the nut, and then you go out and knock on another 6 thousand doors. Whaddayaknow...another nut. Sooner or later you burn out and Jones is looking for another droid to stick in your place.
All the while Spiff is eating ice cream with his kids. Kumbayah. Are you in Seg 3 yet? Imagine a big picture of Tom and Jerrys Cherry Garcia instead of the picture with Ted and the horse....The conversation with clients/prospects; Mr. and Mrs. Prospect. Remember that corny picture of Ted Jones, I replaced it with something that reminds me to reward myself. Spiff...its time to realize you are overmatched. Maybe you should consider going back to home office.[/quote] Reality? Why is sharing my success with my FAMILY, you know, those people you leave behind when you go hit golf balls, not reality? I don't do this job for the golf pro, or the car salesman. I do this job every day because they need to have food, clothing, education, and the myriad of other things that make their lives special. They could care less if I'm trying to cure my slice or if I just picked up another 50 horsepower. Many new FAs spend so much time away from their families that most kids would think ice cream on a Friday night at DQ is a real bonus. If you're so short sighted to realize that the vets who gave those success stories were 100 times more successful in their businesses that you'll ever be, then you're not really qualified to tell me that I'm being overmatched. Pot, meet the kettle.[quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=Ron 14][quote=Spaceman Spiff]
Make sure you have a reward, beyond the business that it will generate, if you hit your point goals for the week. Squash said he takes time off. I don't know that I would do that if you're a new guy, but certainly vets can do that. It can be something simple like ice cream with the kids or MCDs for dinner on Friday. One of the GPs that I heard about this from when I was in HQ said he had a montly point system. If he hit his goals for the month, he bought a new tie. Jack Cahill, who was mentioned in another post, said he used the ice cream as his goal.
Doesn't have to be expensive, but there should be some tangible reward for getting the job done. [/quote] Cmon Spiff. Give me a break. Every single Jones or Ex Jones guy heard that exact crap, right out of the EJ playbook for "acceleration". Hearing this sh*t makes me physically ill. Take a half day off, go drink some beers with your buddies, take your wife out to dinner, go play golf. Do something worthwhile. This job is a grind. A neck tie, MCD's, or ice cream ? WTF! [/quote] OK, you're right. Never mind what I said. You should pound beers, hit golf balls, go to strip clubs, buy new cars, and have steak dinners. That's about as un-Jones as you can get. Sheesh...seriously? You're going to complain about the examples from people that I've heard talk about point systems before? MsBroker mentioned Jack Cahill in post #6, I thought it might be worthwhile to know how a guy like that, who built his business, got offered a GP with Jones, and is now living high on the hog (albeit with Jones, his life must suck) rewarded himself. Evidenlty it was Jones crap and not worth mentioning. To each his own. [/quote] Who said anything about strip clubs and buying new cars? What do you have against golf and steak ? You just don't get it. What you said is right out of the Jones playbook. I mean literally right out of the acceleration training. That is what makes it so lame. I don't care if the "tangible reward" is a hand me down rubber from the RL. The fact that you would use the EJ playbook knowing there are a ton of guys on here who were at or still at Jones and heard the same thing is mind boggling. Did you actually think you wouldn't be ripped on for that ?Spiffy-
I remember when Cahill told me one of his goals was to hire a landscaper to mow his lawn. Now that was motivation. By the way, didn't Cahill take over an office? I did go to his country club after a Jones event. Now that was a treat...Then he hired Al McKenzie to mow his wife’s lawn
[quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=BigCheese]
That is so Spiff. Forget about reality and get some ice cream with the kids. Or really go out on a limb and buy yourself a tie....Before you file bankruptcy or spending all your hard earned cash, knock 6 thousand doors and sooner or later you find a nut. You crack the nut, and then you go out and knock on another 6 thousand doors. Whaddayaknow...another nut. Sooner or later you burn out and Jones is looking for another droid to stick in your place.
All the while Spiff is eating ice cream with his kids. Kumbayah. Are you in Seg 3 yet? Imagine a big picture of Tom and Jerrys Cherry Garcia instead of the picture with Ted and the horse....The conversation with clients/prospects; Mr. and Mrs. Prospect. Remember that corny picture of Ted Jones, I replaced it with something that reminds me to reward myself. Spiff...its time to realize you are overmatched. Maybe you should consider going back to home office.[/quote] Reality? Why is sharing my success with my FAMILY, you know, those people you leave behind when you go hit golf balls, not reality? I don't do this job for the golf pro, or the car salesman. I do this job every day because they need to have food, clothing, education, and the myriad of other things that make their lives special. They could care less if I'm trying to cure my slice or if I just picked up another 50 horsepower. Many new FAs spend so much time away from their families that most kids would think ice cream on a Friday night at DQ is a real bonus. If you're so short sighted to realize that the vets who gave those success stories were 100 times more successful in their businesses that you'll ever be, then you're not really qualified to tell me that I'm being overmatched. Pot, meet the kettle. [/quote] Wow, that might be the most selfish statement I've ever heard a parent make. Here is a tip big guy, don't make going to DQ dependent on if daddy was a good boy at work. Do it because you want to see your kids smile. "I'm sorry little Johnny, daddy didn't make that last call today so no DQ for you" I actually think it sends a terrible message to your family that the time and activities you spend with them is dependent on how your week went. Reward you family with ice cream, the movies, playing ball, whatever because you love them. Not because you love Jones.Volt-
Spiff sometimes acts like he goes without for the good of the firm...just like ol jack cahill did. I think he must be stressed making his month/year. But he is at least doing it the old fashioned way, by inheriting an office. It was the rarest of individuals that did it from scratch. I NEVER took my kids to DQ because I had a good prospecting/production month. I took them to the local Baskin Robbins because THEY liked going. When my reserves started dwindling, and I kept hearing all the company BS, I knew what was important. We kept going. I didn't need the firm to tell me what was right for my family. I figured that out all by myself. Volt...I don't think Spiff is selfish, just lost when it comes to defending his firm (and yours) at all costs. It sounds like you are on the right track. I don't care if its a point system or money dues, the reality is you need something to keep you on track. All the Jones crap just didn't add up to any benefit after several years. Keep us updated on your success. I'll wager a tie that you will be Seg 4 before Spiff.[quote=Ron 14][quote=Spaceman Spiff][quote=Ron 14][quote=Spaceman Spiff]
Make sure you have a reward, beyond the business that it will generate, if you hit your point goals for the week. Squash said he takes time off. I don't know that I would do that if you're a new guy, but certainly vets can do that. It can be something simple like ice cream with the kids or MCDs for dinner on Friday. One of the GPs that I heard about this from when I was in HQ said he had a montly point system. If he hit his goals for the month, he bought a new tie. Jack Cahill, who was mentioned in another post, said he used the ice cream as his goal.
Doesn't have to be expensive, but there should be some tangible reward for getting the job done. [/quote] Cmon Spiff. Give me a break. Every single Jones or Ex Jones guy heard that exact crap, right out of the EJ playbook for "acceleration". Hearing this sh*t makes me physically ill. Take a half day off, go drink some beers with your buddies, take your wife out to dinner, go play golf. Do something worthwhile. This job is a grind. A neck tie, MCD's, or ice cream ? WTF! [/quote] OK, you're right. Never mind what I said. You should pound beers, hit golf balls, go to strip clubs, buy new cars, and have steak dinners. That's about as un-Jones as you can get. Sheesh...seriously? You're going to complain about the examples from people that I've heard talk about point systems before? MsBroker mentioned Jack Cahill in post #6, I thought it might be worthwhile to know how a guy like that, who built his business, got offered a GP with Jones, and is now living high on the hog (albeit with Jones, his life must suck) rewarded himself. Evidenlty it was Jones crap and not worth mentioning. To each his own. [/quote] Who said anything about strip clubs and buying new cars? What do you have against golf and steak ? You just don't get it. What you said is right out of the Jones playbook. I mean literally right out of the acceleration training. That is what makes it so lame. I don't care if the "tangible reward" is a hand me down rubber from the RL. The fact that you would use the EJ playbook knowing there are a ton of guys on here who were at or still at Jones and heard the same thing is mind boggling. Did you actually think you wouldn't be ripped on for that ?[/quote] I never claimed to have created the ice cream reward thing myself. In fact if your reading comprehension skills were better you would realize that I gave credit to a couple of GPs that used to tell training classes how they ran their point systems. In fact, the phrase you so graciously highlighted specifically says that Jack Cahill used ice cream and the other GP (Steve Siefert) used the tie thing. Of course it was out of the Jones playbook. Does that make the example any less valid? Would it have been better if I had said "Ron Carson does it this way..."? It was a Jones guy who asked the question originally. Maybe he should have clarified that he didn't want to hear any ideas about how EDJ vets used to run their point systems.A don’t follow the same methodology as Spiff for rewarding myself (I don’t do it period), but I think you guys are over-analyzing what he said.
I know a lot of guys, ALL they want to do is win the trips. It's what they focus on. Me, not so much. That doesn't motivate me. But it doesn't make them wrong or me right. To each their own. Cheesy, you just love bashing Spiff & Co. He made a rather unassuming remark about getting ice cream with the kids, and it becomes him defending his firm. You'll twist anything he says into a negative. Give him a break.I believe Spiff was using the "ice cream" example as just that...an example of a reward for a job well done. I, on the other hand, also used an example i.e. banging the nanny...both valid forms of reward, albeit one more fun/rewarding than the other (that would be the Nanny Spiffy )! Yes, it was corny to pull one from the Jones playbook, however, whatever way an FA wants to reward himself is all that matters...be it hookers or Ice Cream...or my personal favorite...Ice Cream on Hookers! Anyway, although the Kool-aid & windy's load, run rampant thru Spiffy's system (sorry, couldn't resist)...he seems to be a straight up guy looking to help the rookies on this site, and therefore should be given a pass here! Just my .02
foot (I refuse to use your new name) and volt -
That is exactly why a lot of new FAs use that kind of reward. How many times could you take it as a dad to go home and tell your 8 year old girl that you can't take her out to ice cream tonight because you didn't work hard enough this week. Once? Twice, tops. You have to set that goal up specific to your activities at work. You only get to go do that thing IF daddy or mommy does what they are supposed to at work. Your family becomes your accountability group. I had one vet that said he implemented something like that at his house. He put up a chore sheet on the fridge for himself and the kids. Johnny has to clean his room and feed the dog. Suzy has to help with dishes and vacuum the living room. Daddy has to make 25 contacts today. If everyone gets a gold star for the week for doing what they're supposed to, the family gets a treat. You're teaching your kids that it is important to work hard in order to enjoy the fruits of your labor and that at times there are consequences for not doing the work. foot - the fact that you kept taking your kids to Baskin Robbins when your reserves were dwindling teaches your kids NOTHING about how to properly handle money. If my reserves start dwindling, I tell my kids no, we can't go to the movies or get ice cream. I teach them that sometimes in life you have to make sacrifices. I teach them that most of the time they get what they want and I work hard to make sure that the times that they don't are few and far between. Those life lessons will be more valuable to them than 100 trips to Baskin Robbins, whether they love it or not. And exactly how did my comment about hearing GPs talking about their reward systems become defending the firm? You're way off base with that one.[quote=Spaceman Spiff]foot (I refuse to use your new name) and volt -
That is exactly why a lot of new FAs use that kind of reward. How many times could you take it as a dad to go home and tell your 8 year old girl that you can't take her out to ice cream tonight because you didn't work hard enough this week. Once? Twice, tops. You have to set that goal up specific to your activities at work. You only get to go do that thing IF daddy or mommy does what they are supposed to at work. Your family becomes your accountability group. I had one vet that said he implemented something like that at his house. He put up a chore sheet on the fridge for himself and the kids. Johnny has to clean his room and feed the dog. Suzy has to help with dishes and vacuum the living room. Daddy has to make 25 contacts today. If everyone gets a gold star for the week for doing what they're supposed to, the family gets a treat. You're teaching your kids that it is important to work hard in order to enjoy the fruits of your labor and that at times there are consequences for not doing the work. foot - the fact that you kept taking your kids to Baskin Robbins when your reserves were dwindling teaches your kids NOTHING about how to properly handle money. If my reserves start dwindling, I tell my kids no, we can't go to the movies or get ice cream. I teach them that sometimes in life you have to make sacrifices. I teach them that most of the time they get what they want and I work hard to make sure that the times that they don't are few and far between. Those life lessons will be more valuable to them than 100 trips to Baskin Robbins, whether they love it or not. And exactly how did my comment about hearing GPs talking about their reward systems become defending the firm? You're way off base with that one. [/quote] Very true and well said! But please let's not get into a debate on Child rearing (No windy that doesn't mean what you think it does )...I don't want to get into a pissing match as to why we are talking about rearing your child!!!![quote=Hey Kool-Aid]
Very true and well said! But please let's not get into a debate on Child rearing (No windy that doesn't mean what you think it does )...I don't want to get into a pissing match as to why we are talking about rearing your child!!!! [/quote] Oh Christ, I almost just pissed myself! That was nasty, but boy it was funny.If I’ve done well by the end of the week I allow myself a 10 minute break to watch Uptick Live.
[quote=Spaceman Spiff]foot (I refuse to use your new name) and volt -
That is exactly why a lot of new FAs use that kind of reward. How many times could you take it as a dad to go home and tell your 8 year old girl that you can't take her out to ice cream tonight because you didn't work hard enough this week. Once? Twice, tops. You have to set that goal up specific to your activities at work. You only get to go do that thing IF daddy or mommy does what they are supposed to at work. Your family becomes your accountability group. I had one vet that said he implemented something like that at his house. He put up a chore sheet on the fridge for himself and the kids. Johnny has to clean his room and feed the dog. Suzy has to help with dishes and vacuum the living room. Daddy has to make 25 contacts today. If everyone gets a gold star for the week for doing what they're supposed to, the family gets a treat. You're teaching your kids that it is important to work hard in order to enjoy the fruits of your labor and that at times there are consequences for not doing the work. foot - the fact that you kept taking your kids to Baskin Robbins when your reserves were dwindling teaches your kids NOTHING about how to properly handle money. If my reserves start dwindling, I tell my kids no, we can't go to the movies or get ice cream. I teach them that sometimes in life you have to make sacrifices. I teach them that most of the time they get what they want and I work hard to make sure that the times that they don't are few and far between. Those life lessons will be more valuable to them than 100 trips to Baskin Robbins, whether they love it or not. And exactly how did my comment about hearing GPs talking about their reward systems become defending the firm? You're way off base with that one. [/quote]That's fair. In the end to each their own. If ice cream is someones driver, so be it. If it's MsBroker calling you daddy, even better.
I just asked my wife if I could put ice cream on her and if she would dress up as a nanny.
She told me the only reward I need was to payoff her Lexus... Spiffy... Thanks for the lessson on how to teach my kids how to handle money. I don't think I could have done it without your wisdom. Do you have any more pearls? My only point, perhaps unclear to you, was I didn't need a firm (or its management) to advise me how to deal with my family during the tough years. I figured that out without the brillance of Cahill and Fess et. al. Just as Ron alluded to, when you spew the company BS, we feel the need to call you on it.foot (I refuse to use your new name)
Spiff- From now I on you are dubbed WANNABE GP. I feel so empowered now.........So this discussion of the EDJ points system morphs into a discussion of child rearing…Wow…
The value of this forum is the exchange of ideas...some are good and some are bad but this endless backbiting does not profit anyone.[quote=BigCheese]
I just asked my wife if I could put ice cream on her and if she would dress up as a nanny.
She told me the only reward I need was to payoff her Lexus... Spiffy... Thanks for the lessson on how to teach my kids how to handle money. I don't think I could have done it without your wisdom. Do you have any more pearls? My only point, perhaps unclear to you, was I didn't need a firm (or its management) to advise me how to deal with my family during the tough years. I figured that out without the brillance of Cahill and Fess et. al. Just as Ron alluded to, when you spew the company BS, we feel the need to call you on it.[/quote] I understood that you felt EDJ was trying to advise you how to deal with your family during tough times. My take on the brilliance of Cahill, Fess, et al would be that they weren't giving you advice on how to deal with your family. Instead they were giving you suggestions on how to run your business. They were simply passing on what they did when they were in your shoes. How about you answer my question about when that turned into company BS? As to my pearls of wisdom on handling money...pearls before swine, I'm afraid.[quote=noggin]So this discussion of the EDJ points system morphs into a discussion of child rearing…Wow…
The value of this forum is the exchange of ideas...some are good and some are bad but this endless backbiting does not profit anyone. [/quote] Sad isn't it.Nogs-
He was trying to make a point. Wannabe GP aka Spiff isn't a sage old wise man in this industry yet. But he has stayed at a Marriott, so he can impart his official Jones wisdom whenever he types. It's empowering....and nauseating. You are right about the endless backbiting. It doesn't help anyone. I for one am going to take a little breather waiting for the day when we use the forum to learn. At least Volt is attempting that, and hopefully I added a little of MY experience to help balance the discussion. It would be really cool if Wannabe GP aka Spiff could impart some of his own brillance, you know, his own real life experience, in the trenches kind of experience, to the discussion. The eery sounds of silence reverberate when you have nothing of substance to add, just more company standard lines. Because that's all he knows...And sometimes if I'm feelin a lil crazy I reward myself with a New FA Meeting video heh heh e
[quote=BigCheese]Nogs-
He was trying to make a point. Wannabe GP aka Spiff isn't a sage old wise man in this industry yet. But he has stayed at a Marriott, so he can impart his official Jones wisdom whenever he types. It's empowering....and nauseating. You are right about the endless backbiting. It doesn't help anyone. I for one am going to take a little breather waiting for the day when we use the forum to learn. At least Volt is attempting that, and hopefully I added a little of MY experience to help balance the discussion. PROMISES OF BREATHER FROM BACKBITING! It would be really cool if Wannabe GP aka Spiff could impart some of his own brillance, you know, his own real life experience, in the trenches kind of experience, to the discussion. The eery sounds of silence reverberate when you have nothing of substance to add, just more company standard lines. Because that's all he knows... MORE BACKBITING!!!!! HMMMMMMMMMMMMM....BROKEN PROMISES....SO SOON![/quote]Wannabe GP aka Spiff is your role model. How long before you are in the red? Maybe you should go reward yourself.
[quote=BigCheese]Wannabe GP aka Spiff is your role model. How long before you are in the red? Maybe you should go reward yourself.
[/quote] If you read this forum you will see that I disagree with Spiff often enough and say so, however, I respect the fact that he posts here to help Advisors, with Jones or otherwise and when he debates others, he doesn't do so by calling them names and taking out measuring tapes (or in your case, a thimble) to compare the size of his manhood! Nearly every post you make on here is to call him out or try to get his goat. On the off time that you actually make a normal post you seem to have quite a bit of experience and alot to add to this forum. So why not cut the shti and do just that![quote=Hey Kool-Aid][quote=BigCheese]Wannabe GP aka Spiff is your role model. How long before you are in the red? Maybe you should go reward yourself.
[/quote] If you read this forum you will see that I disagree with Spiff often enough and say so, however, I respect the fact that he posts here to help Advisors, with Jones or otherwise and when he debates others, he doesn't do so by calling them names and taking out measuring tapes (or in your case, a thimble) to compare the size of his manhood! Nearly every post you make on here is to call him out or try to get his goat. On the off time that you actually make a normal post you seem to have quite a bit of experience and alot to add to this forum. So why not cut the shti and do just that! [/quote] well playedWhy shouldn’t he be called out. I think Ron14 called him, I just seconded it. I grant you I try to be the contrarian when it comes to his BS. Tell you what, I will stop if you remind him from time to time to test it in the trenches first.
That's what I have done for 17 years. I have industry experience as an FA who started with nothing and made it. I walk the talk. Not someone else's coat tails. Did you happen to read earlier in the thread about money dues...did that shed a little light for you regarding my experience. FYI. When I was at Jones I was the guy the RL had work with the guys on their way out. Red to the core, I saved more than I lost. Why...because I helped the guys who were willing to work hard and smart. The point system that Volt is implementing helps, but to its core, its about activity. While I think that is important, what is key is not losing sight of what's really important. i.e., is attaining 100 pts a week as important as finding 1M of new money everyday? You see, if you can't speak the language and enable prospects to tell you what you need to know as quickly as possible, collecting all the points is meaningless. BUT, if you learn how to ask effective open ended questions, become comfortable asking the tough questions, and have a point system...now in my humble opinion, you are becoming the professional you aspire to be. Then you can reward your family beyond your wildest imagination. See the distinction?[quote=BigCheese]Why shouldn’t he be called out. I think Ron14 called him, I just seconded it. I grant you I try to be the contrarian when it comes to his BS. Tell you what, I will stop if you remind him from time to time to test it in the trenches first.
That's what I have done for 17 years. I have industry experience as an FA who started with nothing and made it. I walk the talk. Not someone else's coat tails. Did you happen to read earlier in the thread about money dues...did that shed a little light for you regarding my experience. FYI. When I was at Jones I was the guy the RL had work with the guys on their way out. Red to the core, I saved more than I lost. Why...because I helped the guys who were willing to work hard and smart. The point system that Volt is implementing helps, but to its core, its about activity. While I think that is important, what is key is not losing sight of what's really important. i.e., is attaining 100 pts a week as important as finding 1M of new money everyday? You see, if you can't speak the language and enable prospects to tell you what you need to know as quickly as possible, collecting all the points is meaningless. BUT, if you learn how to ask effective open ended questions, become comfortable asking the tough questions, and have a point system...now in my humble opinion, you are becoming the professional you aspire to be. Then you can reward your family beyond your wildest imagination. See the distinction? [/quote] Now that's what i'm talkin about! I couldn't agree with you more...I don't have the experience you do in this industry, however, in life and in the business world I do. My feeling is what it all comes down to, in every form of sales, is attitude, personality and sweat equity...nothing else really means a thing. BTW...I wasn't doubting your knowledge or experience....quite the opposite as a matter of fact. I have seen some of your "on point" posts and found them smart and usefull...of course I have to wade through a huge pile of sh*t for most of them when you are disparaging a hard working guy who obviously has the best interest of the newbies in particular, whether or not you like or agree with his methods. I would much rather see lots of posts like this last one....Can you link me to the money dues post you are talking about, Cheese?
[quote=mlgone]spiff and Ronnie are tools. I told you that long ago. Volt is approaching that territory[/quote]
lol … can you please give me your other screennames on here as well? It will help me keep track of all the losers on my nutz.
I have to agree. Sometimes volt I am with you, other times you are right there with Windy, usually behind him.spiff and Ronnie are tools. I told you that long ago. Volt is approaching that territory
I’ll never cheat on you Ron… except maybe with B24.
You're an idiotI’ll never cheat on you Ron… except maybe with B24.
You're an idiot[/quote][quote=voltmoie]I’ll never cheat on you Ron… except maybe with B24.
Keep hiding behind another name .. weak .. I own you. You created a fake name to stalk me. OWNED BYTCH
You're an idiot[/quote][quote=Mr.Blonde][quote=voltmoie]I’ll never cheat on you Ron… except maybe with B24.
Keep hiding behind another name .. weak .. I own you. You created a fake name to stalk me. OWNED BYTCH
[/quote] Like I said, you're an idiot
I’ll never cheat on you Ron… except maybe with B24.
So now we have the maturity equivalent of twelve year old boys. Awesome, especially from a forum for professionals.
So now we have the maturity equivalent of twelve year old boys. Awesome, especially from a forum for professionals.
Acting like twelve-year olds is different from....
[quote=mlgone] for all I know your a guy?
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And how exactly is that relevant?
[quote=MsBroker] So now we have the maturity equivalent of twelve year old boys. Awesome, especially from a forum for professionals.
Acting like twelve-year olds is different from.... [/quote]
Sorry, you lost me ??
Ms Broker, with all do respect, we have been acting like twelve year olds from the beginning.
I'm a Mr.because ur obviously trying to make a gender play here by calling yourself Ms anything.
How many names do you see with Mr? (Besides Sunshine which is a joke)
First to complain about treatment in the workplace. First to use it. Nice. Welcome to the USA
[quote=mlgone]because ur obviously trying to make a gender play here by calling yourself Ms anything.
How many names do you see with Mr? (Besides Sunshine which is a joke)
First to complain about treatment in the workplace. First to use it. Nice. Welcome to the USA[/quote]
ManLadyGone
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…come strong bytch, those canned corny azz gay jokes don’t bring the heat
I’m new here, but I have noticed this mlgone guy talks a lot about being gay. I think he’s got some issues
I’m new here, but I have noticed this mlgone guy talks a lot about being gay. I think he’s got some issues
I second that
lol … what a tool
Don’t talk trash about the real world fat boy. I hope you stalk me. I love morons that dedicate their time to following my posts. I’ve already got at least three. Should I send you the sign up sheet.
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…come strong bytch, those canned corny azz gay jokes don’t bring the heat
Not only does he have gay issues , but anger as well. That comment about his gay talk really set him off. I think it’s time he told his friends and family and came out of the closet. It must be rough living with it all bottled up
[quote=mlgone] [quote=voltmoie] lol … what a tool
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great response dumbnutz[/quote]
great response dumbnutz
Mr.Blonde … tell us how it felt to be fired from Jones before you made it to week 17? Was that a good feeling? Did your wife rape you that night?
ms broker with meletio…interesting
What is this supposed to mean? Are you attempting to imply that I am meletio? If so, you may want to do a little research, maybe look at some of my previous posts.
Fired from Jones? Um, not quite, though I do appreciate all the training from my time there. Tell us Volt, how does it fell to be mistaken for a JW everyday, while trying to scrounge together a pitiful excuse for a living.Mr.Blonde … tell us how it felt to be fired from Jones before you made it to week 17? Was that a good feeling? Did your wife rape you that night?
2. Judging by how unmotivated you were to keep up with your 30 day war you won’t keep up with it anyway but a good system no less.
3. All of the gay jokes are lame. I think this thread has served its purpose. Let it die already or are we turning Volt into the late Ronnie Dobbins because we need a new Jones guy to bash?
It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!
Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
100K wow, that must make you your biggest client. Please post my broker check you idiot, I'm from CanadaIt’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!
Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
[quote=fa09]1. Point system looks good volt.
2. Judging by how unmotivated you were to keep up with your 30 day war you won’t keep up with it anyway but a good system no less.
3. All of the gay jokes are lame. I think this thread has served its purpose. Let it die already or are we turning Volt into the late Ronnie Dobbins because we need a new Jones guy to bash?[/quote]
The 30 day war worked well for me actually. I just didn’t post on it very much. Was #1 producer out of the 100 at PDP because of it, I think.
I like the attention, so please keep it coming. Only on here to entertainment and to learn a thing or two. Guys like Blonde and MLGone have never added a thing so they are entertainment.
100K wow, that must make you your biggest client. Please post my broker check you idiot, I'm from Canada[/quote][quote=voltmoie]It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!
Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
Liar
You didn't spontaneously appear to stalk me. I know who you are. You know it.
Well, I know who you are!
Volt I think Windy logged on after you fell asleep. What kind of stroke brags about the money they have on an internet forum? You I guess. Please tell me Windy logged on at your house.It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!
Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
You guys need to grow up. You are all supposed to be professionals and are acting like complete children I realize that the future of a career as an FA is bleak, but really the name calling has to stop. If I were you losers I would be discussing ways to update a resume. The lost decade in the mkt is about to turn into two decades. The double dip is coming and neither you or you clients will be able to survive. You are basically f***ed. so put your heads together and start brainstorming
haha you clowns are awesome. 100k is not alot of money, it simply provides me a cushion while I build my business. I’m not going to starve like you did or are doing so currently.
here is the link to the rest of your lame cartoons: http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/D/Door_to_door_sales.asp
Seriously? Is door to door and gay jokes all you have? Weak.
I’m proud to prospect door to door. Not that I like it but I do like the reception & business I get from it.
Ah, I didn’t realize the bubble was meletio.
I thought we were safe from his dribble in the rookie forum.
What’s a meletio?
[quote=voltmoie]It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
Volt I think Windy logged on after you fell asleep. What kind of stroke brags about the money they have on an internet forum? You I guess. Please tell me Windy logged on at your house. [/quote]
Please don’t tell us Windy logged on at your house. Disturbing.
Volt I think Windy logged on after you fell asleep. What kind of stroke brags about the money they have on an internet forum? You I guess. Please tell me Windy logged on at your house. [/quote][quote=voltmoie]It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!
Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
It's not bragging at all. Its my buffer capital while I ramp up. My point in stating it was I'm not starving and living a terrible life working at Jones. Unlike some people I planned this career and took out as many barriers to failure as I could before jumped in.
Windy was a jerk because you idiots piled on him time and time and time and time again. Your forum has become sh*t in my opinion. 10% decent and 90% fake names circle jerking with their gay humor.
Not that I'm not guilty
You work at Edward Jones ?..This is a forum for financial advisors
[quote=mlgone] [quote=voltmoie] haha you clowns are awesome. 100k is not alot of money, it simply provides me a cushion while I build my business. I’m not going to starve like you did or are doing so currently.here is the link to the rest of your lame cartoons: http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/D/Door_to_door_sales.aspSeriously? Is door to door and gay jokes all you have? Weak.I’m proud to prospect door to door. Not that I like it but I do like the reception & business I get from it.
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your a door knocker??? WTF
sorry I responded to you. 100k in the bank??? ohhhh big hitter???
try having an account minimum over 5k cheese boy? LOL what a tool.
Keep Knocking[/quote]
I will, thanks for the support.
[quote=mlgone]LMAO what a rookie. I can just see you and your Sears husky suit cold calling all day??
I don’t know where you are but try the grilled KFC at lunch, it’s better for you.
Your a idiot 100k boy… That should at least buy you the best double wide around town[/quote]
That’s me… I’ll be back at it tomorrow. Again, I thank you for your support Jebediah, I mean ML. Or whatever you’ll log on as next.
Volt I think Windy logged on after you fell asleep. What kind of stroke brags about the money they have on an internet forum? You I guess. Please tell me Windy logged on at your house. [/quote][quote=Ron 14][quote=voltmoie]It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!
Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
It's not bragging at all. Its my buffer capital while I ramp up. My point in stating it was I'm not starving and living a terrible life working at Jones. Unlike some people I planned this career and took out as many barriers to failure as I could before jumped in.
Windy was a jerk because you idiots piled on him time and time and time and time again. Your forum has become sh*t in my opinion. 10% decent and 90% fake names circle jerking with their gay humor.
Not that I'm not guilty
[/quote] Are you talking about me f*** face? You think I didn't plan for this career ? You dont know sh*t about me you piece of sh*t.
Volt I think Windy logged on after you fell asleep. What kind of stroke brags about the money they have on an internet forum? You I guess. Please tell me Windy logged on at your house. [/quote][quote=voltmoie] [quote=Ron 14][quote=voltmoie]It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!
Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
It's not bragging at all. Its my buffer capital while I ramp up. My point in stating it was I'm not starving and living a terrible life working at Jones. Unlike some people I planned this career and took out as many barriers to failure as I could before jumped in.
Windy was a jerk because you idiots piled on him time and time and time and time again. Your forum has become sh*t in my opinion. 10% decent and 90% fake names circle jerking with their gay humor.
Not that I'm not guilty
[/quote] Are you talking about me f*** face? You think I didn't plan for this career ? You dont know sh*t about me you piece of sh*t. [/quote]
What the hell are you talking about, Ron? Go take that anger out on that wife you claim to have.
[quote=voltmoie] [quote=Ron 14][quote=voltmoie]It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?
Volt I think Windy logged on after you fell asleep. What kind of stroke brags about the money they have on an internet forum? You I guess. Please tell me Windy logged on at your house. [/quote]It’s not bragging at all. Its my buffer capital while I ramp up. My point in stating it was I’m not starving and living a terrible life working at Jones. Unlike some people I planned this career and took out as many barriers to failure as I could before jumped in.Windy was a jerk because you idiots piled on him time and time and time and time again. Your forum has become sht in my opinion. 10% decent and 90% fake names circle jerking with their gay humor.Not that I’m not guilty [/quote]
Are you talking about me f** face? You think I didn’t plan for this career ? You dont know sht about me you piece of sht. [/quote]
Ron, I believe he was referring to Mr. Blonde, who I am guessing is Still.
[quote=MsBroker] [quote=Ron 14] [quote=voltmoie] [quote=Ron 14][quote=voltmoie]It’s a tough life to have 100k in the bank from my buy at package at my last company. A TOUGH LIFE!Blonde, I know who you are … you know that. Should I post your broker check report?[/quote]
Volt I think Windy logged on after you fell asleep. What kind of stroke brags about the money they have on an internet forum? You I guess. Please tell me Windy logged on at your house. [/quote]It's not bragging at all. Its my buffer capital while I ramp up. My point in stating it was I'm not starving and living a terrible life working at Jones. Unlike some people I planned this career and took out as many barriers to failure as I could before jumped in.Windy was a jerk because you idiots piled on him time and time and time and time again. Your forum has become sh*t in my opinion. 10% decent and 90% fake names circle jerking with their gay humor.Not that I'm not guilty [/quote]
Are you talking about me f*** face? You think I didn't plan for this career ? You dont know sh*t about me you piece of sh*t. [/quote]
Ron, I believe he was referring to Mr. Blonde, who I am guessing is Still. [/quote] Wrong again
I was talking in general terms but Ron still seems to have some issues he’s working out. I guess we are officially broken up.
I’ll that the top job at McDonalds anyday.
Jeb. so now you go from stalking Windy to me? I owned you in another thread so you show up here with the same tired gay jokes but a different name? Weak bro. WEAK!
People with small brains are easy to figure out. You are a broken record. You tried to get your jeb character into the fight but quoted MLGONE on an unrelated thread. Good night, son.
what a stoopid thread.
Can’t we all just get along???
Every time someone says this I get that damn David Lee Murphy song stuck in my head.Can’t we all just get along???
I have a feeling that volt is going to be more courteous and polite going forward.Can’t we all just get along???
I have a feeling that volt is going to be more courteous and polite going forward.[/quote][quote=Hey Kool-Aid]Can’t we all just get along???
lol - Go waste your time and google me some more stalker. You've proven nothing except that you can't tell the difference between real life and a forum. I know you have a man crush on me, it's sweet.
If anyone wants to know my real name, address, phone number, or jerk off to my picture like JEB … just PM me. Happy to share. About 5 of you know me already anyway
PM me … please! I’ll share with anyone.
PM sent. Feel Better?PM me … please! I’ll share with anyone.
PM sent. Feel Better? [/quote][quote=voltmoie]PM me … please! I’ll share with anyone.
I do, I do!
At the point where you actually start to google someone's screenname off this forum you've got to ask yourself what type of human you are. How pathetic is your life that you want to track someone down. It's sad honestly.
Did your dad leave as a child? Did mommy not love you? Is your life so bad you spend your time trying to find out who people are so you can act as though you have leverage over them? I feel sad for the guy. He needs to go for a run. Read a book. Meet a girl. Get a dog. Whatever ... I'm sure he'll OUT me.... OHHH NOOOOO ... and then bask in his 30 seconds of fame. YAWN
Guessing he’s searching for me on edwardjones.com trying to figure out which “John” I am.
Anyway, I’m at 17 points today. Need to make some calls or set an appointment. I’ll be back to see my name and jones link posted in a bit.
I have set three appts each of the last two days. I don't think I've done that since eval/grad. (I've set three, just not on consecutive days, I don't think, although this is the first time I am tracking it, so I can't be sure.) Anyways, I'm filling up my calendar, so, good stuff, especially since some of these have been really tough ones. I'm gonna go for a week-long streak.
I also am aware that Jones does not care if you post here, however I am certain that your propensity to sling gay slurs and act as a prick in general violates Jones company policy.
Ding, Ding, Ding...give the man a prize. The firm policy used to reference this site and the forums specifically as the example of what is permitted. It also said that your participation in the site was as a representative of the firm and that you should act accordingly. I know, I know, you're going to argue that you aren't representing EDJ, you're on here for the knowledge, and that you are only representing yourself. OK, fine. Just know that if you use the firm's equipment to make the comments that you do, you could get into some hot water if you were to get called on it. Calling someone gay could be construed as sexual harrassment. Just sayin'.[quote=MsBroker]
I have set three appts each of the last two days. I don't think I've done that since eval/grad. (I've set three, just not on consecutive days, I don't think, although this is the first time I am tracking it, so I can't be sure.) Anyways, I'm filling up my calendar, so, good stuff, especially since some of these have been really tough ones. I'm gonna go for a week-long streak.
[/quote] What did you do to set those 3 appts? Prospects or existing clients?[quote=Spaceman Spiff]
I also am aware that Jones does not care if you post here, however I am certain that your propensity to sling gay slurs and act as a prick in general violates Jones company policy.
Ding, Ding, Ding...give the man a prize. The firm policy used to reference this site and the forums specifically as the example of what is permitted. It also said that your participation in the site was as a representative of the firm and that you should act accordingly. I know, I know, you're going to argue that you aren't representing EDJ, you're on here for the knowledge, and that you are only representing yourself. OK, fine. Just know that if you use the firm's equipment to make the comments that you do, you could get into some hot water if you were to get called on it. Calling someone gay could be construed as sexual harrassment. Just sayin'. [/quote] Doesn't matter who's equipment he is using, the simple fact that he has let it be known he works for EDJ and is posting during market hours is enough.All prospects but one. Bugged the hell out of them. Two women I have talked to at least ten times each. They finally caved. Another, I had left about 12 messages, but hadn’t talked to her since I met her early June. She remembered, me, luckily, and it was pulling teeth, but I did get her to agree to meet. One business owner, one client, and one guy that has flip-flopped on meeting with me for the last three weeks. DIY-er. (The best was when his cell phone died right as we were setting a time.)
Oh, wow, I got four today. Client emailed me this morning. Forgot about that.
VOLT … GO away. You are an idiot. LOSER
PM sent. Feel Better? [/quote][quote=MsBroker][quote=voltmoie]PM me … please! I’ll share with anyone.
I do, I do!
At the point where you actually start to google someone's screenname off this forum you've got to ask yourself what type of human you are. How pathetic is your life that you want to track someone down. It's sad honestly.
[/quote] What type of human being comes to a forum and acts as you have? How pathetic that you have to express your anger on an internet forum to cover up whatever defeciencies you have. You can eliminate any so-called leverage you think I have by posting your own information, or you could simply kill the attitude. It will be interesting to see how you act going forward without the shield of anonymity. You have created quite a stir on the board as I am being bombarded PMs.
[quote=MsBroker]
I have set three appts each of the last two days. I don't think I've done that since eval/grad. (I've set three, just not on consecutive days, I don't think, although this is the first time I am tracking it, so I can't be sure.) Anyways, I'm filling up my calendar, so, good stuff, especially since some of these have been really tough ones. I'm gonna go for a week-long streak.
[/quote] Time to go seduce the nanny???Not yet.
Week’s not over yet.
[quote=Jebediah]
What type of human being comes to a forum and acts as you have? How pathetic that you have to express your anger on an internet forum to cover up whatever defeciencies you have. You can eliminate any so-called leverage you think I have by posting your own information, or you could simply kill the attitude. It will be interesting to see how you act going forward without the shield of anonymity. You have created quite a stir on the board as I am being bombarded PMs. [/quote] I know one person that is not bombarding you. I could care less who he was.Same here. This thread started off aright but one guy threatening another guys job is bad. Think ill go back to da lurkin’
I can certainly understand this concern. Volt put himself in this position. There are many members of this board who could post their own names and it wouldn't mean anything due to how they conduct themselves. I simply gave Volt a wake up call. This board used to be far more useful before the deluge of idiots calling each other gay and making personal insults to people they don't know. It took me a matter of minutes to find out who Volt is, what happens when he challenges someone like we had happen earlier this year who starts calling his office? Everyone here can think of me as an asshole if they want, but I was one of the first one's to ask that windy's name be removed when he was outed. I have no desire to affect Volt's job, however there are many here who would. Call this a lesson on how anonymity can be fleeting. If I can find him, many others can also.Same here. This thread started off aright but one guy threatening another guys job is bad. Think ill go back to da lurkin’
[quote=mlgone] [quote=MsBroker] Not yet.
Week’s not over yet. [/quote]
To all; msbroker is a guy btw[/quote]
Not since the operation.
Shhh, though, don’t tell my husband.
[quote=mlgone] [quote=MsBroker] Not yet.
Week’s not over yet. [/quote]
To all; msbroker is a guy btw[/quote]
Are you trying to say that a female can’t seduce the nanny? How sexist.
I’m saying I want to SEE a female seduce the nanny>
Take your pick.
Dude, what’s wrong with you!?
You don’t sleep with the nanny because she’s hot. You sleep with her because you CAN.
Thrill of the hunt.Since I hadn’t really been here for a week or so, I decided to read the first page and the last page of this thread. An interesting bit of commentary on human, specifically broker, behavior.
I would try to decode how the productivity point system leads to banging the nanny and MsB being a dude, but I figure it would just cause the synapses in my brain to fire through my skull and kill me.Met my 20pt quota today - actually exceeded it by 3 pts. Preventing the FA from getting that sizable account was just icing on the cake.
Can points rollover to the next day?WB-
Reminds me of S&H green stamps. Most of you are probably too young to remember. Maybe the points can be rolled over for that tie you have always wanted. Sorry HKA. I am working on my anger managemet............[quote=BigCheese]WB-
Reminds me of S&H green stamps. Most of you are probably too young to remember. Maybe the points can be rolled over for that tie you have always wanted. Sorry HKA. I am working on my anger managemet............ [/quote] LOL...unfortunately I do remember S&H greeen stamps! At least that time you were funny & not just mean!Hah - why would I need a tie???
I think I'll use my points on this little number. I've been eyeing a newer model with shock absorbers and slip free grip, but I prefer these old school models. Much easier to make the thunderous thump that echoes off the cold gray walls of the basement.Because according to the Jones reps/GP’s from days gone by…
That's how they rewarded themselves. Ties and ice cream with the family. Man... I am really trying hard to be nice.[quote=BigCheese]Because according to the Jones reps/GP’s from days gone by…
That's how they rewarded themselves. Ties and ice cream with the family. Man... I am really trying hard to be nice.[/quote] The new and improved Cheese....I like it! Or has your wife taken over your computer?The only thing my wife doens’t have is my password!Everything else she has or has access to! (And that’s OK with me)
I used to have my own room that I could lock from the inside. Talk about heaven....Almost as good as finding 1M of new money every day.[quote=BigCheese]The only thing my wife doens’t have is my password!Everything else she has or has access to! (And that’s OK with me)
I used to have my own room that I could lock from the inside. Talk about heaven....Almost as good as finding 1M of new money every day. [/quote] That way you can surf porn without the fear of the wife walking in on you...No surfin…
I got all I can handle at home!!!! Not bad to say that after 23 years of marriage.So you do have a nanny!
[quote=BigCheese]No surfin…
I got all I can handle at home!!!! Not bad to say that after 23 years of marriage.[/quote] Me too!....not bad at all!!!Everyone stay calm…it doesn’t matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years.
Actually was good advice, thank you....most of my clients are back within 10% of where they were at the start of the worst recession since the great depression!Everyone stay calm…it doesn’t matter if you clients lose all of their money, the mkt averages 10 % over the past 100 years.
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