Do any of you guys cold call instead of doorknock?
Some people say theyve had great success with doorknocking, maybe that was in the past or in a rural area. I dont know if doorknocking works for everyone in a big city.
Anyway, do any of you guys cold call instead? If so, where do you get your lists from and what script do you use? We didnt discuss this at KYCYou didn’t discuss it in KYC because Jones doesn’t believe you should start a relationship over the phone. They believe you should differentiate yourself from your competition by doorknocking instead of cold calling.
If you want to buy a list there are testimonials on Jonesnet, which will from here forward be called Joogle, about some of the vendors out there. There have been quite a few people who have given their basic scripts for cold calling on here. You should have plenty of info to make a well informed decision on whether you want to cold call or not.MJ - Door knocking sucks, but don't try to avoid it. It does work. It even works in the suburbs of big cities. It may not be as effective in those areas, but you can start relationships that way. Why would you take a job at EJ and then a few weeks in give up on the door knocking part? You knew when you took the job what was expected.
I know Jones guys that have done it but its an addition not the core and only after they at least had an office. Try and enjoy talking to people while you are out there, make it conversational, after all you can’t sell yet so do what Windy does and ask them to go fishing with you then turn them into a client.
BTW I know doorknocking sucks, just had a guy this morning call the sherrif and demand I leave. I didn’t, the Sherrif showed as I was further down the road and all that was necessary was a simple explanation of what I was doing. I could have either had that kill my day or as I did I laughed it off. The guy who called followed me around till the cop showed up and was pretty pissed when the cop allowed me to continue.
[quote=Ron 14]
MJ - Door knocking sucks, but don't try to avoid it. It does work. It even works in the suburbs of big cities. It may not be as effective in those areas, but you can start relationships that way. Why would you take a job at EJ and then a few weeks in give up on the door knocking part? You knew when you took the job what was expected.
[/quote] i was thrilled about the opportunity to work here, so i convinced myself that doorknocking wouldnt be that bad...but that feeling has worn off and I really hate it. Its actually making me depressed and i hate waking up in the morning. when i wake up im actually pissed off, ive never felt this way before. maybe i can do a mix of both. even the boa at an office i went to told me (quote) "i HATE (and she put emphasis on the word "hate") sales people, i would never open my door. thats why im a boa" shes been working for the company for years and she still feels this way after doing this for a few weeks, i feel like im being invasive and annoying when i knock on doors. people dont want to be bothered by a stranger after a long day of work and sitting in traffic. people look at me with disgust and i cant even blame them. one dude pissed me off so bad yesterday, he cursed at me for no reason. i was so mad i could barely force myself to say "sorry for bothering you" before i hurried to my car and sped home. i dont have enough control of my temper to deal with people cursing at me every day. yesterday was really my wakeup call. i wanted to say something to the guy, but i realized i was in his yard uninvited. i hate being put in that position. i was so fukking mad and people are home and they wont answer their door for me, but why would they? i talked to my mom and my aunts about this, and they said if they saw me knocking at their door they wouldnt answer either. i'm 6'2/210....i wouldnt advise any women/small men to answer the door if i knocked either. im 23 years old and im knocking on the doors of 30/40/50/60 year old men and women. if they open the door and i bumrush them theyre helpless unless theyre armed. of course i would never do this, im a very nice person, but how are they supposed to know that when we have so many lunatics running around? they probably think the risk of opening the door isnt worth whatever i have to offer....or they just dont want to be bothered im about to try again @ 3By the sounds of it, this might not be the business for you, and that’s being polite. I’ve had the cops called on me, been bitten by two dogs, and been cursed off more than one porch. It’s been over 5 years since I doorknocked but I think back on it now, and the driving factor was that I wanted to be in this business and just listened to people older and wiser than I was at the time say that things wouldn’t get any easier and you have to make a decision. Once you get to Eval/Grad, you’ll start phoning some of your prospects and they will hang up on you, curse you, tell you never to phone again. You’ll phone them for years hoping they will buy that $5k bond from you.
I wouldn't buy something from someone going door to door either, but there are lots of people who do, including investments. I sure am a lot more polite to the JW's and Mormon's that knock on my door now howeverCouple of tips: Step back from the door. Way back. I am in a big city, right in the heart of it. The houses are all very old with large porches. I step off the porch and back onto the steps as soon as I knock. I am a female, so it’s gonna be different, but I will say this, attitude is everything with doorknocking. You should be smiling walking down the street, smiling as you approach the door, smiling at all times. People will notice you before you get to the doorstep.
I really find it fun to be a sickly sweet to the rude ones as possible. Never forget, you may have just caught them on a really bad day. I know there are days when if you come knocking on my door, I am going to be a bitch. If you start out with a negative attitude about it, then that will translate to consistently crappy days. Yes, there are people out there like your BOA, your mom and your aunts, but there are also plenty of women and men that will not have a problem opening the door for you. Don't get caught up in the negative thinking that everyone is going to be like them, because they won't be. Good luck out there, and keep your chin up.MJ … just quit. You are not going to make it. You either buy into it or not and we know where you stand. So start getting that resume ready and just let Jone’s fire ya… BECAUSE I’M ALREADY TIRED OF READING YOUR CRAP.
Ask still@jones how it’s done, he’ll give you the 411.
mj23
Don't get discouraged. I've been with Jones nearly 8 years. I will never be a star, but that's OK. I run a profitable and ethical business. I am an lp and mentor. I use chotskies to make a point when I introduce myself or teach a class. For example, I bought small super balls at oriental trading (ten cents each) which I hand to prospects/ students along with my card. "We believe in investing in quality companies, because quality companies tend to bounce back" (Drop ball and catch before handing to prospect/ student) I only discovered this site a week ago, so if I am making etiquette mistakes, my apologies[quote=mom.ir2002ej]mj23
Don't get discouraged. I've been with Jones nearly 8 years. I will never be a star, but that's OK. I run a profitable and ethical business. I am an lp and mentor. I use chotskies to make a point when I introduce myself or teach a class. For example, I bought small super balls at oriental trading (ten cents each) which I hand to prospects/ students along with my card. "We believe in investing in quality companies, because quality companies tend to bounce back" (Drop ball and catch before handing to prospect/ student) I only discovered this site a week ago, so if I am making etiquette mistakes, my apologies [/quote] Tell me this is a joke.[quote=mom.ir2002ej]mj23
Don't get discouraged. I've been with Jones nearly 8 years. I will never be a star, but that's OK. I run a profitable and ethical business. I am an lp and mentor. I use chotskies to make a point when I introduce myself or teach a class. For example, I bought small super balls at oriental trading (ten cents each) which I hand to prospects/ students along with my card. "We believe in investing in quality companies, because quality companies tend to bounce back" (Drop ball and catch before handing to prospect/ student) I only discovered this site a week ago, so if I am making etiquette mistakes, my apologies [/quote] BWAHAHAHAHAHA! bspears strikes again![quote=Ron 14][quote=mom.ir2002ej]mj23
Don't get discouraged. I've been with Jones nearly 8 years. I will never be a star, but that's OK. I run a profitable and ethical business. I am an lp and mentor. I use chotskies to make a point when I introduce myself or teach a class. For example, I bought small super balls at oriental trading (ten cents each) which I hand to prospects/ students along with my card. "We believe in investing in quality companies, because quality companies tend to bounce back" (Drop ball and catch before handing to prospect/ student) I only discovered this site a week ago, so if I am making etiquette mistakes, my apologies [/quote] Tell me this is a joke. [/quote] mj23, Don't do that, it will make you look corny and people will laugh at you.Now, Volt, all he needs is a little Kool-aid, and he will be good to go. The first batch didn't take, is all.MJ … just quit. You are not going to make it. You either buy into it or not and we know where you stand. So start getting that resume ready and just let Jone’s fire ya… BECAUSE I’M ALREADY TIRED OF READING YOUR CRAP.
Ask still@jones how it’s done, he’ll give you the 411.
[quote=Mr.Blonde][quote=Ron 14][quote=mom.ir2002ej]mj23
Don't get discouraged. I've been with Jones nearly 8 years. I will never be a star, but that's OK. I run a profitable and ethical business. I am an lp and mentor. I use chotskies to make a point when I introduce myself or teach a class. For example, I bought small super balls at oriental trading (ten cents each) which I hand to prospects/ students along with my card. "We believe in investing in quality companies, because quality companies tend to bounce back" (Drop ball and catch before handing to prospect/ student) I only discovered this site a week ago, so if I am making etiquette mistakes, my apologies [/quote] Tell me this is a joke. [/quote] They will really laugh at you if you're not athletic and drop the ball.."is that one BAC or NT" mj23, Don't do that, it will make you look corny and people will laugh at you. [/quote]Mj,
I am 6'5 230, and have had very little problems having people open their doors when I knock. Even little old ladies that I could clobber with ease come and answer the door all the time. Granted you may be in an area where people are less receptive to someone coming to their door, but it's got nothing to do with your size/weight/aftershave lotion. It's all about attitude, so pick up your skirt, grab your balls, and go make some money.[quote=voltmoie]MJ … just quit. You are not going to make it. You either buy into it or not and we know where you stand. So start getting that resume ready and just let Jone’s fire ya… BECAUSE I’M ALREADY TIRED OF READING YOUR CRAP.
Ask still@jones how it’s done, he’ll give you the 411.
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I was just thinking how much this guy is like me!
[quote=The_Belter]Mj,
I am 6'5 230, and have had very little problems having people open their doors when I knock. Even little old ladies that I could clobber with ease come and answer the door all the time. Granted you may be in an area where people are less receptive to someone coming to their door, but it's got nothing to do with your size/weight/aftershave lotion. It's all about attitude, so pick up your skirt, grab your balls, and go make some money. [/quote] I'm 6'8" 340#, when old ladies come to the door, I clobber them and take their purse.[quote=The_Belter]Mj,
I am 6'5 230, and have had very little problems having people open their doors when I knock. Even little old ladies that I could clobber with ease come and answer the door all the time. Granted you may be in an area where people are less receptive to someone coming to their door, but it's got nothing to do with your size/weight/aftershave lotion. It's all about attitude, so pick up your skirt, grab your balls, and go make some money. [/quote]that does not include you Ms. Broker
. i’m 6’2/210…i wouldnt advise any women/small men to answer the door if i knocked either.
See B24 - All of these people are over 6 feet tall.
I am 6’5 230, and have had very little problems having people open their doors when I knock.
See. 6'5''. What is interesting is that so many people who POST their heights are significantly above average.
B24, you and I might be the only ones under six feet.
I’m 6’1" … oh wait, your talking about height not length.
… I will vouch for “the belter” he’s a tall dude
" i’m 6’2/210…i wouldnt advise any women/small men to answer the
door if i knocked either. im 23 years old and im knocking on the doors
of 30/40/50/60 year old men and women. "
Are you male or female?
A piece of advice for you. Door knocking is silly, but it does work. It is a very slow tedious process though. If you think cold calling would be better then pick up the phone a minimum of 100 times a day as it is truly a numbers game. To me though you have some confidence issues so I would go to a company that will open doors for you and give you warm leads since your personality doesn’t warrant your current job. To knock on doors or make cold calls you have to learn to let it all roll off your shoulders…you evidently can’t do that.
Go to a bank program, get the low hanging fruit, build a fee based business for at least 5 years and then go somewhere else. That is my advice.go independent. when you are working on your business, you will do what it takes to succeed. Btw, if someone knocked on my door, I would answer with a gun holstered, for sh*ts and giggles.
But would I buy something from a guy going door to door? no. An investment professional going door to door during the daytime shows to me they dont value their own time. Sorry.
Is it effective though? absolutely. you will have someone that doesnt care about that and will give you the business.
Personally, I prefer to work my existing relationships, hard. as well as onlne marketing.
If you are 23... the best thing you can do is open up your facebook, or myspace, print a list of all your friends, talk to them. then call their parents.
Target market.
going door to door is not target marketing.
[quote=aeromaks]
go independent. when you are working on your business, you will do what it takes to succeed. Btw, if someone knocked on my door, I would answer with a gun holstered, for sh*ts and giggles.
But would I buy something from a guy going door to door? no. An investment professional going door to door during the daytime shows to me they dont value their own time. Sorry.
Is it effective though? absolutely. you will have someone that doesnt care about that and will give you the business.
Personally, I prefer to work my existing relationships, hard. as well as onlne marketing.
If you are 23… the best thing you can do is open up your facebook, or myspace, print a list of all your friends, talk to them. then call their parents.
Target market.
going door to door is not target marketing.
[/quote]Terrible post
[quote=voltmoie] [quote=aeromaks]
go independent. when you are working on your business, you will do what it takes to succeed. Btw, if someone knocked on my door, I would answer with a gun holstered, for sh*ts and giggles.
But would I buy something from a guy going door to door? no. An investment professional going door to door during the daytime shows to me they dont value their own time. Sorry.
Is it effective though? absolutely. you will have someone that doesnt care about that and will give you the business.
Personally, I prefer to work my existing relationships, hard. as well as onlne marketing.
If you are 23... the best thing you can do is open up your facebook, or myspace, print a list of all your friends, talk to them. then call their parents.
Target market.
going door to door is not target marketing.
[/quote]Terrible post[/quote] I second that...facebook?? "Uh like LOL can I plz mng ur moniez???"
[quote=Royalewitcheese][quote=voltmoie] [quote=aeromaks]go independent. when you are working on your business, you will do what it takes to succeed. Btw, if someone knocked on my door, I would answer with a gun holstered, for sh*ts and giggles.
But would I buy something from a guy going door to door? no. An investment professional going door to door during the daytime shows to me they dont value their own time. Sorry.
Is it effective though? absolutely. you will have someone that doesnt care about that and will give you the business.
Personally, I prefer to work my existing relationships, hard. as well as onlne marketing.
If you are 23... the best thing you can do is open up your facebook, or myspace, print a list of all your friends, talk to them. then call their parents.
Target market.
going door to door is not target marketing.
[/quote]Terrible post[/quote] I second that...facebook?? "Uh like LOL can I plz mng ur moniez???"[/quote]
Third....he says he does "online marketing" WTF?
You know this guy's a clown.
Mj how long have you been out of kyc? 1 week? 2 weeks? It takes time bud.
MJ stick with it. Its all attitude like previous people have said. I did door to door cable sales before starting with Jones just to make sure I could handle it. Its not probably ever going to be a favorite thing to do but remember its a means to an end, and you don’t have to do it forever.
Door knocking and cold calling both require overcoming rejection. I cold-walk businesses twice a week and often get rejected. Just smile, be polite, and move on. If you think cold-calling is easier you are in for a rude awakening. You will deal with rejection on both ends. Every time you get rejected you are closer to finding a prospect. Every time you find a prospect you are closer to making them a client.
Your solution: Wake up and commit to having a great day, or find something you will enjoy better. Your attitude is the key to being successful.
y’all are right, im acting like a bytch. time to hold my nuts and go get it
thx yall
Well said, now get to it. To quote the great Alec Baldwin in the best sales movie ever: "They're sitting out there just waiting to give you their money. Are you going to take it? Are you man enough to take it?"y’all are right, im acting like a bytch. time to hold my nuts and go get it
thx yall
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