Cold calling stats

Sep 27, 2009 1:00 pm
It looks like there are a number of new posts on the subject so even though I posted this before maybe it will be of interest to some.   This is right out of the gate and year one first 6 month stats when my only job was to cold call.   I got in at 8 am and started to dial. It was 40 contacts (anybody I actually talked to) or 8 PM before I went home.   I had another thread that I think was called small changes that brought big returns. I think that will be a huge help to some if you can dig it up.   364 dials =   15 leads =   1 client after 9 contacts.   With my current TTM, ALL FROM COLD CALLING, EVERY SINGLE BIT OF IT, $265 ish in month 25, that equates to about $8 for every dial I made.   For those of you looking forward, every dial you make will pay you a minimum of $8 in the near future!! SO DIAL DIAL DIAL How much money do you want? It's right there in front of you.   Since I pretty much suck at cold calling but simply being bull headed enough to do it until I had my own business for life, your stats should be much better.   Those who tell you cold calling is a waste of time; just smile, agree and take the clients that they maybe would have gotten had they the sense/marbles to do the same.
Sep 27, 2009 1:33 pm

I think I might have asked you this before but did you cold call business or residential?  Local or National? Product or appointment?

Sep 27, 2009 3:34 pm

Any number I could find, local, the AGE generic call. I’m convinced it really doesn’t matter what you say.

Sep 27, 2009 5:16 pm

Good stats Gaddock.  So it really doesn’t matter what you say?  Believe it or not, I’ve had quite a bit of success using Mortgage Insurance as a door opener to their portfolio because we’re blowing the banks out of the water with it, so should I call on this? Or tell them I’m an Indy, licensed with ## different insurance companies, can offer any Canadian investment they want, and have a team of estate planning experts, business planning specialists, blah blah blah?

Sep 27, 2009 5:28 pm
The Duke:

Good stats Gaddock.  So it really doesn’t matter what you say?  Believe it or not, I’ve had quite a bit of success using Mortgage Insurance as a door opener to their portfolio because we’re blowing the banks out of the water with it, so should I call on this? Or tell them I’m an Indy, licensed with ## different insurance companies, can offer any Canadian investment they want, and have a team of estate planning experts, business planning specialists, blah blah blah?

  You're going to have to answer that for yourself. I asked for permission to contact them in the future with investment ideas. Others I know called with muni rates. Others with closed end fund divs. At the end of they day I would think what you feel to be the very best thing you have that you truly believe in would be the ticket.
Sep 28, 2009 2:12 am

[quote=Gaddock]

It looks like there are a number of new posts on the subject so even though I posted this before maybe it will be of interest to some.   This is right out of the gate and year one first 6 month stats when my only job was to cold call.   I got in at 8 am and started to dial. It was 40 contacts (anybody I actually talked to) or 8 PM before I went home.   I had another thread that I think was called small changes that brought big returns. I think that will be a huge help to some if you can dig it up.   364 dials =   15 leads =   1 client after 9 contacts.   With my current TTM, ALL FROM COLD CALLING, EVERY SINGLE BIT OF IT, $265 ish in month 25, that equates to about $8 for every dial I made.   For those of you looking forward, every dial you make will pay you a minimum of $8 in the near future!! SO DIAL DIAL DIAL How much money do you want? It's right there in front of you.   Since I pretty much suck at cold calling but simply being bull headed enough to do it until I had my own business for life, your stats should be much better.   Those who tell you cold calling is a waste of time; just smile, agree and take the clients that they maybe would have gotten had they the sense/marbles to do the same.[/quote]   I'm curious as to when to make that 2nd, 3rd, 4th, contact with the same prospect. Obviously it differs with each one, but I'm hesitant with following up too soon.
Sep 28, 2009 2:18 am

Gaddock … would you be willing to share the script you used and worked when you got started and tell us a little about your follow up process?

Sep 28, 2009 2:27 am

he posted it on prospecting section… Traditional AGE script…

Sep 28, 2009 2:37 am

[quote=chief123]he posted it on prospecting section… Traditional AGE script…[/quote]

I just searched for it but no dice.  Any help?



Also, I live in a small town about 3hrs from a major metro.  Can I really make sales to areas so far from me?

Sep 28, 2009 2:40 am

ProspectingSelling, What to call on… but here it is



Hello Mr. & Mrs. Schmore This is Gaddock with yada yada here in jellystone.



I was calling to see if you’re an investor and if so are you open to new ideas from time to time?



Ta daaaaaaaaaaa



When I have a new call I want to try I call the local ghetto an d work the kinks out and get it smooth.

Sep 28, 2009 2:43 am

Cool, thanks. 

Does this approach work outside of your local area?

Sep 28, 2009 2:54 am

I think the pitch you are most comfortable with, works the best…

Sep 28, 2009 3:01 am

So, if you set an appointment you simply conduct it via the phone?

Sep 28, 2009 3:14 am

Depends how far away they live… but if out of state… yeah…

Sep 28, 2009 2:55 pm
chief123:

ProspectingSelling, What to call on… but here it is

Hello Mr. & Mrs. Schmore This is Gaddock with yada yada here in jellystone.

I was calling to see if you’re an investor and if so are you open to new ideas from time to time?

Ta daaaaaaaaaaa

When I have a new call I want to try I call the local ghetto an d work the kinks out and get it smooth.

  What does Still@Jones say when he answers?
Sep 28, 2009 3:45 pm
SometimesNowhere:

[quote=chief123]ProspectingSelling, What to call on… but here it is Hello Mr. & Mrs. Schmore This is Gaddock with yada yada here in jellystone. I was calling to see if you’re an investor and if so are you open to new ideas from time to time? Ta daaaaaaaaaaa When I have a new call I want to try I call the local ghetto an d work the kinks out and get it smooth.



What does Still@Jones say when he answers?[/quote]



Post of the week.
Sep 28, 2009 3:49 pm
chief123:

ProspectingSelling, What to call on… but here it is

Hello Mr. & Mrs. Schmore This is Gaddock with yada yada here in jellystone.

I was calling to see if you’re an investor and if so are you open to new ideas from time to time?

Ta daaaaaaaaaaa

When I have a new call I want to try I call the local ghetto an d work the kinks out and get it smooth.

  Simple and straightforward, can work with anyone you call.  That's pretty good.  So you're not trying to set an appointment, just a pipeline to follow up? So when someone says "Yes, that is fine", when is your next followup?
Sep 28, 2009 5:21 pm
SometimesNowhere:

[QUOTE]When I have a new call I want to try, I call the local ghetto and work the kinks out and get it smooth.

  What does Still@Jones say when he answers?[/quote]
I ask if your mom wants to put the $5 she just "earned" into advisory solutions...
Sep 28, 2009 5:36 pm
Still@jones:

[quote=SometimesNowhere][QUOTE]When I have a new call I want to try, I call the local ghetto and work the kinks out and get it smooth.

  What does Still@Jones say when he answers?[/quote]
I ask if your mom wants to put the $5 she just "earned" into advisory solutions...
[/quote]   No wonder you failed out of Jones. You don't even understand the Advisory Solutions account minimum.
Sep 28, 2009 6:17 pm
SometimesNowhere:

[quote=Still@jones] [quote=SometimesNowhere][QUOTE]When I have a new call I want to try, I call the local ghetto and work the kinks out and get it smooth.

  What does Still@Jones say when he answers?[/quote]
I ask if your mom wants to put the $5 she just "earned" into advisory solutions...
[/quote]   No wonder you failed out of Jones. You don't even understand the Advisory Solutions account minimum. [/quote]
How bout a weekly DCA...I'm there every week....so are alot of people.
Sep 28, 2009 6:29 pm
Still@jones:

[quote=SometimesNowhere][quote=Still@jones] [quote=SometimesNowhere][QUOTE]When I have a new call I want to try, I call the local ghetto and work the kinks out and get it smooth.

  What does Still@Jones say when he answers?[/quote]
I ask if your mom wants to put the $5 she just "earned" into advisory solutions...
[/quote]   No wonder you failed out of Jones. You don't even understand the Advisory Solutions account minimum. [/quote]
How bout a weekly DCA...I'm there every week....so are alot of people.
[/quote]   Given your production, if my mom had to rely on your business to invest she probably couldn't even DCA. Then, you would go doorknock her anyway, twitching nervously, muttering to yourself "don't ever skip a door, don't ever skip a door".
Sep 28, 2009 9:27 pm

It’s too bad you guys hijacked a decent, helpful thread.  I’d really like to learn more about cold calling processes in this business.  Instead still@jones is left defending his faliure once again while he should actually be working.

Sep 28, 2009 10:15 pm
voltmoie:

It’s too bad you guys hijacked a decent, helpful thread.  I’d really like to learn more about cold calling processes in this business.  Instead still@jones is left defending his faliure once again while he should actually be working.

  Are you cold calling? What type of firm / products are you representing?
Sep 28, 2009 10:29 pm

[quote=voltmoie]It’s too bad you guys hijacked a decent, helpful thread.  I’d really like to learn more about cold calling processes in this business.  Instead still@jones is left defending his faliure once again while he should actually be working.[/quote]
I couldn’t aggree more…I should have created a new thread called “SometimesNowhere’s Mom”. Sorry!

I’m wondering if anyone ever kept similar stats on their door knocking and broke it down to $/door.


Sep 28, 2009 10:43 pm

I’m sure your firm will have some stats.

Sep 28, 2009 11:02 pm

[quote=Gaddock]

  Are you cold calling? What type of firm / products are you representing?[/quote]

No, my prospecting has been 100% door knocking, work for Jones.  I'd like to layer it in but really don't know where to start, what to say, where to call. 
Sep 28, 2009 11:09 pm

[quote=voltmoie] [quote=Gaddock]

  Are you cold calling? What type of firm / products are you representing?[/quote]

No, my prospecting has been 100% door knocking, work for Jones.  I'd like to layer it in but really don't know where to start, what to say, where to call. 
[/quote]   Is it working?
Sep 29, 2009 12:10 am

Door knocking … yes, very well.  But it’s going to be DARK here at 5pm before to long and I want to adjust my prospecting that used to happen from 5-8pm

Sep 29, 2009 12:49 am

I’ve seen people on other threads talk about buying call lists. Is that worth it for anyone? What about the “Do Not Call” list – doesn’t that make cold calling more difficult?

Sep 29, 2009 1:16 am

[quote=BariSax]I’ve seen people on other threads talk about buying call lists. Is that worth it for anyone? What about the “Do Not Call” list – doesn’t that make cold calling more difficult?
[/quote]

You buy a scrubbed list.

Sep 29, 2009 1:22 am

[quote=voltmoie] Door knocking … yes, very well. But it’s going to be DARK here at 5pm before to long and I want to adjust my prospecting that used to happen from 5-8pm

[/quote]



You better watch it volt - WeddleMe will be on here calling you a traitor.

Sep 29, 2009 3:40 am

Famous quote by wirehouse veterans “Nothing works and everything works”

Sep 29, 2009 3:52 am

[quote=Squash1]Famous quote by wirehouse veterans “Nothing works and everything works”[/quote]

More than anything, doing something instead of nothing works.

Sep 29, 2009 9:03 pm
voltmoie:

Door knocking … yes, very well.  But it’s going to be DARK here at 5pm before to long and I want to adjust my prospecting that used to happen from 5-8pm

  "Very Well" ?????   Don't stop
Sep 29, 2009 9:49 pm
Gaddock:

[quote=voltmoie]Door knocking … yes, very well.  But it’s going to be DARK here at 5pm before to long and I want to adjust my prospecting that used to happen from 5-8pm

  "Very Well" ?????   Don't stop[/quote]

Don't think it's kosher to door knock when it's dark.  Never tried it though...
Sep 29, 2009 10:02 pm

I’m sure your firm will have a great deal of info and stats on that very subject.

  Do you realize how few people can say "very well" when it comes to prospecting?
Sep 29, 2009 10:10 pm

I’ll make some calls, need to start planning for it.

I am seriously amazed at the amount of business and good leads I get knocking on doors.  Now if I can just stop being lazy and doing more of it.

Sep 30, 2009 3:17 am

That’s a good point, I just need to submit myself to the pain…

Sep 30, 2009 3:41 am

Call business in the morning. Go see them early afternoon. Door knock homes in the evening. Enter year 2 in Seg 4. Best advice I received on Day 1 was ask a qualified prospect for their business 6-7 times before moving on. GET IT DONE!

Sep 30, 2009 3:43 am

6-7? why stop - keep asking.

Sep 30, 2009 3:50 am

Point was FAs in their first year waste time by moving on after 1 or 2 rejections.

If I ask for their business say 3 times f2f, 3 phone calls, some good call/mail/call and they don't bite, MOVE ON. I learned this from somebody on the forum, but after I get told no 6-7 times: before hanging up, act like you're talking to somebody else in the room "OH, that B!@# again!"
Sep 30, 2009 8:14 pm

I average nine contacts before I get ink on paper. That’s not to say I don’t open them in less time but I’ll keep after them until I sell them a yes or they sell me a no.

Sep 30, 2009 8:38 pm
Gaddock:

I average nine contacts before I get ink on paper. That’s not to say I don’t open them in less time but I’ll keep after them until I sell them a yes or they sell me a no.

  You say that you average 9 contacts before a close... I'm curious to know what the most contacts you done to get the close, and what the most you've done to finally give up on the prospect?
Oct 1, 2009 12:01 am

[quote=Gaddock]I average nine contacts before I get ink on paper. That’s not to say I don’t open them in less time but I’ll keep after them until I sell them a yes or they sell me a no.[/quote]

What’s your process like?  Call, Call, Call ?  How do you drip?

Also, different idea everytime or the same basic pitch?

Oct 1, 2009 12:08 am

Dig up a thread I made call something like “small changes that brought , maybe bring. big returns”

  It's the very best of gaddock and priceless input from others. It has the entire routine in great detail.   UPDATE found it;                   Simple changes that brought big returns   Not sure why it's locked it should be read by every newbie out there. I PM'd Admin and asked if they would unlock it.
Oct 1, 2009 12:36 am

Just read the thread. WOW talk about reliving things!!!

  New guys it's a must read. Funny thing, the guys that were negative jerks haven't posted in years LOL. I'm sure I know their fate.
Oct 1, 2009 1:32 am

This is a really great thread…lots of great information! Thanks for digging it up!

But, am I reading that correctly…you had a goal of $25MM in 2 years and $100MM in 5 years…how’s that going?

Oct 2, 2009 3:16 am
Still@jones:

This is a really great thread…lots of great information! Thanks for digging it up!

But, am I reading that correctly…you had a goal of $25MM in 2 years and $100MM in 5 years…how’s that going?

  Last I heard you were looking for a job.... How's that going?
Oct 2, 2009 4:04 am

is that you, windy?

ps: i’m working biatch!