The "other" rr forum

Oct 31, 2007 3:13 am

 Ok folks…well I was having my doubts, but now Bobby Hull has banned me from the other board…because in the end he couldn’t handle having someone else disagree with him.  He’s a total loser…first he changed my avatar and then he banned me to the ghetto.  When I told him I didn’t care if I got out, then he banned my IP address.  He ever even had the guts to answer my post to him in ‘the ghetto’…the forum for special BH banned members.

Never mind whether he had the guts to respond to my post in the members’ forum and leave me as an active member.  He can’t handle the idea that ANYONE would stand up to him in his sandbox.

So you can stay if you want, but I’m done with Bobby and his playroom.  It’s too bad that Ferris didn’t take a stand and put a stop to this nonsense, because I think Bobby is going to ruin their little alternative forum.

Don’t forget, people, that Bobby Hull is behind the ‘outing’ of a number of members of this forum and other forums as well.  You might want to keep that in mind as you consider whether or not to participate in his forum.  I’d put that issue aside in my mind for a while, but not any longer.

If Bobby decides to post anything amusing about me while I’m not there to defend myself, feel free to share it here so I can see what he has to say…

Here’s how I responded to his post in the ‘ghetto’…
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[quote=Bobby Hull;4365]You can come out of the ghetto in one year.[/quote]



Pretty funny there Bobby.  Do you and Ferris really think I’m going to mark my calendar to see when I can log back in?



What a joke…I knew that you couldn’t stand the heat if
someone dared to openly disagree with you.


So much for your pledge when you started the forum.



It’s really too bad…because this could have been a great alternative
to RRmag.com.  But you’ve decided to ruin it with your juvenile antics,
your baiting of me because I took some initiative in my career and took the CFP, and
your racist and homophobic bullsh*t.



Now, instead, I fully expect this forum to die a slow and withering
death.



Don’t worry…the only way I’ll be back is when you invite me back and
post a full and public apology on the board and also invite me back.  I
expect that to happen shortly after the time I see a pig flying by my
picture window. 



You’re not man enough to own up to your mistakes.  Bye Bobby.

Oct 31, 2007 4:19 am

Joe, your mailbox is full…

Oct 31, 2007 4:24 am

again dammit?

ok  not any longer.

it would help if some folks would delete the messages I’ve sent to them…my ‘outbox’ is taking up space

Oct 31, 2007 7:12 pm

Ferris if you want to see both sides of the story you need to also consider the many posts that BH made taking potshots at me in the last few months.  They may have started out as poking fun but after a while you cross a line and it gets real old.

If we’re going to talk about ‘rude’ let’s make sure we also consider BH’s frequent habit of calling other forum members “homos” when he can’t come up with anything better, among other things.  Real mature stuff.

And incidentally, despite BH trying to imply otherwise, I did not mean to insult other forum members, including yourself.  I am sorry if any of you felt that way.  I did, however, mean to insult him, and for that I shall not apologize.  It’s rather amusing how thin-skinned he is when the shoe is on the other foot.

Ironically, even if I was inclined to apologize, I could not do so, because your moderator instantly banned me “to the ghetto for a year”.  Then he couldn’t even handle me being in the ghetto, so he banned my IP.  I never knew a “failed planner” could be such a threat.

Even if we don’t agree, Ferris, I appreciate that you have responded to the dispute in a professional manner.  Props to you for that.  It’s too bad I couldn’t stick around your place and learn a little and contribute now and then as well.  But hey…BH already knows everything, so why would you need me?

Good luck.

Oct 31, 2007 11:49 pm

[quote=Ferris Bueller] Joe - I try to see both sides to every story. I read the post in question and there is a line between disagreeing with Bobby and being downright insulting.



I’m siding with Bobby, your post was rude. It is you that owes him an apology.[/quote]



Ferris - didn’t know that being rude was a good reason to ban somebody. Never mind, I forgot that Bobby closed & deleted the ‘Our Promise’ thread which said you were commited to free speech. Guess that means you’re not…
Nov 1, 2007 1:01 am

Hmmm, so, Ferris, doesn't like flamingos ...hmmm, but does like to hang out with the nastiest and most evil of all cyberbullies--how about that!  Definitely reflects his character, doesn't it?  Of course, he would side with him: they're business partners.  This cyberbully was so bad that he was banned from this site and he's in the biz.  In fact, Ferris and his butt buddy wanted to ize people, post their ip's and hunt them down with their 12 gage! 

I predict that eventually maybe Ferris will get enough, too, and defect back to this site -- but, judging from his signature line:  Ferris = BH: same mean spirited mentality but BH is just an abusive, power hungry admin who wants everyone to bow down to him.  Eventually, others will get enough of this, too.   Funny: How joedbrkr and BH were best buds here with a neutral admin.  This is very ironic and entertaining ...and I'm not even in the career field.   -troll
Nov 1, 2007 1:03 am

 ize people,

terrorize people...   EDIT. Wow! and here I thought joedabrkr and ferris were the same. 
Nov 1, 2007 2:11 am

I just gave up also.  I’m done trying to function in a forum ran by a damned two-year-old…

Nov 1, 2007 11:59 am

I posted one question in that forum that Bobby did not like, and he was incredibly rude. I will never go back- it was simply childish.

Nov 1, 2007 12:16 pm

[quote=charlie_broker]

Hmmm, so, Ferris, doesn’t like flamingos …hmmm, but does like to hang out with the nastiest and most evil of all cyberbullies–how about that!  Definitely reflects his character, doesn’t it?  Of course, he would side with him: they’re business partners.  This cyberbully was so bad that he was banned from this site and he’s in the biz.  In fact, Ferris and his butt buddy wanted to ize people, post their ip’s and hunt them down with their 12 gage! 

I predict that eventually maybe Ferris will get enough, too, and defect back to this site -- but, judging from his signature line:  Ferris = BH: same mean spirited mentality but BH is just an abusive, power hungry admin who wants everyone to bow down to him.  Eventually, others will get enough of this, too.   Funny: How joedbrkr and BH were best buds here with a neutral admin.  This is very ironic and entertaining ...and I'm not even in the career field.   -troll [/quote]

Behave, dave, and we'll tolerate you.

Understood?
Nov 1, 2007 12:50 pm

[quote=joedabrkr] because in the end he couldn’t handle having someone else disagree with him.  He’s a total loser…

  Yes.
Never mind whether he had the guts to respond to my post in the members' forum   What was the disagreement about?
  If Bobby decides to post anything amusing about me while I'm not there to defend myself, feel free to share it here so I can see what he has to say....
  Who cares what bobby hull has to say anyway?  He's an annuity salesman with a bad attitude.  He doesn't matter, his opinions are irrelevant.[/quote]
Nov 1, 2007 1:13 pm

[quote=Big Taco][quote=joedabrkr] because in the end he couldn’t handle having someone else disagree with him.  He’s a total loser…

  Yes.
Never mind whether he had the guts to respond to my post in the members' forum   What was the disagreement about?
  If Bobby decides to post anything amusing about me while I'm not there to defend myself, feel free to share it here so I can see what he has to say....
  Who cares what bobby hull has to say anyway?  He's an annuity salesman with a bad attitude.  He doesn't matter, his opinions are irrelevant.[/quote] [/quote]

In essence, the dispute was about this...BH took ANOTHER swing at me as he has many times since I passed the CFP...another reference to 'failed planner' which is one of his favorite terms for years.  So I called him an annuity salesman, and suggested that perhaps he was more concerned about closing the sale and collecting a paycheck than he was serving the client's best interest.  He didn't take that overly well, and decided to ban me from his sandbox.  That's it in a nutshell.
Nov 1, 2007 1:30 pm

Hey Joe, just out of curiousity, I noticed you stopped posting on TGP also. Any reason to that? Did you have a falling out with the admin there? I really respect your opinions and I think you’re a valuable contributor to these types of forums and I see that you are no longer a participant in two of the major ones.

Nov 1, 2007 1:53 pm

No falling out.  Just sorta drifted away.  I’ve checked back every now and then at TGP.  It had honestly seemed to me like the activity had become so low on that forum that there was no need to check in frequently.

There are some good folks on there, though, and some good information as well.  So maybe I should go back now that I’m done with BH and his BS.

My concern about TGP was being outed, but I think that BH was the source of that problem there and he’s no longer on TGP.

If you think BH and Ferris’ forum is a “major forum” you’re kidding yourself.  It had promise, but activity has declined notably, and he’s methodically kicking off any contributor that he doesn’t like…and that list grows every day.

Nov 1, 2007 2:22 pm

Hardly, but keep defending Bobby and that’s exactly what your forum will become.

Nov 1, 2007 2:23 pm
Ferris Bueller:

Well this thread just became a circle jerk of banned users and low-producing brokers.  Enjoy yourselves.

  As long as you affiliate with an insecure wierdo like bobby, your site will become increasingly irrelevant (was it ever really relevant?).  Enjoy yourselves.
Nov 1, 2007 6:26 pm

That’s a good day.  My day’s a little less than 6K, which I felt great about until your post.

Nov 1, 2007 7:20 pm
Indyone:

  Associating with just any Tom, Dick or Harry can be damaging to your reputation.

  As is screwing around with people's real names.   People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.
Nov 1, 2007 9:09 pm

Hmmm, so, Ferris, doesn’t like flamingos

  STFU.  You are the root cause of all of these problems.
Nov 1, 2007 11:46 pm
ExPropTrader:

[quote=Indyone]  Associating with just anyone can be damaging to your reputation.

  As is screwing around with people's real names.   People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.[/quote]


Sad to see this post of yours,  ExPropSatchelcarrier... you seemed pretty cool, like maybe you had the ability to think for yourself.


Nov 2, 2007 3:12 am
joedabrkr:



Sad to see this post of yours,  ExPropSatchelcarrier… you seemed pretty cool, like maybe you had the ability to think for yourself.


  Sorry you couldn't get along there Joe but the rest of us are just fine.  I thought you had a decent head on your shoulders but to see you come here and throw a little temper tantrum suprises me.   If anyone on "the other forum" had any doubts about you being banned, this little childish rant sure shows the right decision was made.     
Nov 2, 2007 1:26 pm

No, it just shows that Bobby has the ability to abuse the power he has given himself.  Had Joe said those kind of things to me instead of Bobby, do you think he would have been banned?

Nov 2, 2007 3:30 pm
Spaceman Spiff:

No, it just shows that Bobby has the ability to abuse the power he has given himself.  Had Joe said those kind of things to me instead of Bobby, do you think he would have been banned?

  We love to talk in analogies so look at it this way - If you go to a party somebody's house you might be able to get away with slapping one of the other partygoers, but you walk up and smack the owner of the house you are definitely getting thrown out.   Why should forums be any different?
Nov 2, 2007 6:15 pm

What if the owner is also walking around slapping people?  Who gets to throw him out?  Or do the rules not apply to him?

What's happening in this situation is that the owner is not only throwing that guy out, but he's also standing around waiting for anyone else to make a comment about what he did so he can throw those guys out too.    He banned me for life this afternoon for my previous post.  I think the party is just about over.  Hopefully not.  I think there was a lot more useful info on that site than there ever was here. 
Nov 2, 2007 7:00 pm
Spaceman Spiff:

What if the owner is also walking around slapping people? 

  Then you have to decide if you're having enough fun at the party to endure a little smack every now and then.  I'm pretty thick-skined so the benefits of staying FAR outweigh any jabs that anyone throws at me.   [quote=Spaceman Spiff] I think there was a lot more useful info on that site than there ever was here.  [/quote]   At least we agree on this much. 
Nov 3, 2007 11:25 pm

Wow - one troll and his irresponsible buddy starts a discussion board up, we all rush to join, and then we somehow expect that the troll & his irresponsible buddy will act responsibly? This trainwreck was going to happen one way or the other. We were silly enough to jump on board for the 1st leg of the ride.

Nov 4, 2007 3:12 am

Frankly, it couldn’t have been any worse than what we had over here at the time.  I’m not sure this board will ever be what it was because moderation was non-existent for far too long.  It took a hit that will take a long time to recover from.  There are a lot of good people at the alternative forum and without their participation, this board isn’t the same.  Will it ever be the same?  The jury’s out, but I doubt that continuing to grouse about another forum is the way to make this one better.

Nov 5, 2007 2:49 pm
Ashland:

This trainwreck was going to happen one way or the other. We were silly enough to jump on board for the 1st leg of the ride.

  cough, cough... "We"? 
Nov 5, 2007 6:25 pm

Nov 5, 2007 11:42 pm

The difference in the forums is that ************************** actually has useful information.  

Nov 6, 2007 10:23 pm

Then why are you here?

Nov 7, 2007 12:16 am

That’s an excellent question.  I’ll go back to  registered rep dot com

  It's not true that there is no good information.  Both Bondguy and The Judge have had good info.  Otherwise, you are correct and I shouldn't waste my time here.
Nov 7, 2007 2:46 pm

I hope you get your inner monologue back so you can work these issues out in your head next time.

Nov 8, 2007 12:17 am

Hi Ferris:

  Just can't stay away can you?
Nov 8, 2007 2:26 am

[quote=charlie_broker]Hi Ferris:

  Just can't stay away can you? [/quote]   Pot...kettle.   At least Ferris is in the biz Nancy.
Nov 8, 2007 3:01 pm
Ferris Bueller:

pink taco with yet another witty retort.  This thread is officially our trash heap.

  Your retort wasn't witty at all.  But anytime one of you comes over and lets on about how wonderful your website is, it comes off as a little insecure and desperate.    I was there.  It's not that cool.
Nov 21, 2007 12:22 am

[quote=ExPropTrader][quote=charlie_broker]Hi Ferris:

  Just can't stay away can you? [/quote]   Pot...kettle.   At least Ferris is in the biz Nancy.[/quote]   Why that's the nicest thing you ever said to me, Ferris.   I'm sure there will be many brokers who will be 'back' here real soon.   This site has really, really improved:  glad I could help. 
Nov 21, 2007 4:41 am

Nov 21, 2007 10:31 pm

You are quite right.  I stand corrected; I had erroneously thought exproptrader was his alias.  I had good things to say about him before …and it’s quite all right that he’d like to shoot me with his 12guage.

  I hope Ferris and others will continue to contribute to this site, too; no need to be competitive with the other site & silo-minded.  (Glad that the admins here had the good sense to put a stop to all of the cyberbullying, though).    As for me, I know when I'm not welcome.   Have fun.   Best Regards~!
Jan 9, 2008 11:18 pm
Indyone:

That’s a good day. My day’s a little less than 6K, which I felt great about until your post.



And when I make $2k of stripper money I guess thats peanuts. So u made $12K today? Wow!! Where do u live? I know a good restaurant in Toronto where we can go celebrate!

And u are paying..OBVIOUSLY!