www.GlassBooth.org

Nov 16, 2007 3:00 pm

This is a really great website. For those of you that haven’t heard about it yet. Two 24 old students created this website that allows you via a questionnaire to find the Presidential Candidate that best fits what your looking for. 

It's a short quiz.. They asked you to rank topics that are most important and then they ask you more specific questions under those leading topic questions.. It was interesting.. Check it out.. Worth the 10 mins.   Miss J   * Have a nice weekend.. I plan to get some major R&R.    
Nov 16, 2007 4:46 pm

Interesting…apparently I’m going to vote for a Mormon…

Nov 16, 2007 5:11 pm

[quote=Indyone]Interesting…apparently I’m going to vote for a Mormon…[/quote]

Better than voting for a moron…

Nov 16, 2007 5:29 pm

Miss J - I couldn't get to GlassBooth.com.  In case anyone else wants to find it, it's actually .org. 

I guess I need to start paying attention to Mr. Huckabee.  Cause evidently he and I think the same.  Kind of makes sense given where I go to church every Sunday morning. 
Nov 16, 2007 6:26 pm

Thanks Spiff… I updated the web address. I have to vote for a mormon too… I was headed in a different direction before I did the questionnaire…

  Did you guys like the web page? Find it interesting..
Nov 16, 2007 8:22 pm

I found it very interesting.  When you read the snippets, some of it is a little misleading, but it still is good to give a general idea.  It pretty much confirmed what I knew, but I'm more of a political dork than most people. 

I'm the black sheep of the investment world just like I was at EDJ -- no Republicans are going to get my vote this year.  That hasn't always been the case, and may not be in the future, but I find Iraq and the arrogance (hubris) of this administration unforgivable.  I don't think that the damage that has been done by this administration, both in world opinion of us and in safety from the real terrorists, will be undone in my children's lifetimes.  Hopefully the erosion of civil liberties will not be as long lasting.  

Basically I'm looking for the democrat who has the most economically conservative platform.  I will probably vote for Hillary because among the 3 with a realistic chance at the nomination (Obama-Clinton-Edwards), she is the biggest believer in free trade.    No matter how much I get trashed in the replies, I don't have any desire to get into a political debate with people who I don't know and whose minds I cannot change anyway, I'm just putting this out there.   FYI, for those of you who feel compelled to try to convert me, (1) trust me, you won't, and (2) I live in a state that she would never in a million years carry, so this is an academic conversation anyway.     Have a nice weekend.
Nov 16, 2007 8:23 pm

I am not looking to bash, EDJ4now, but what leads you to think that Hilary is a proponent of free trade?  Not looking for an argument, I’ve just never perceived her that way.

Nov 16, 2007 9:03 pm

The short answer:  comparing her to the rest of the democratic field. 

  Frankly, with regards to trade I'm dissapointed in most candidates on both sides of the aisle.  Putting up barriers to trade is almost always a short term solution to a long term problem.  Why don't we make our T-shirts here in the USA?  Because it is more efficient to have that done by someone else.  Unless you are willing to either (1) work for $0.25 an hour making it, or (2) pay $40 for a walmart quality T-shirt, we can't afford to have someone living here do that work.  It's not that I'm not sympathetic to some 12 year old earning $20/week working in a factory, but taking away his job isn't going to help him.  It isn't like he's going to get a job as an FA making $200,000 a year.  He will just be a little hungrier, and more likely to strap a bomb to his chest to punish the capitalists (that would be you and me) who put him in that situation.    Likewise I'm sympathetic with the factory worker here who loses his job.  But we need to be able to shift people to production that is more efficient.  If that wasn't the case, we would still be subsidizing factories to make horse drawn plows.   Basically I'm a libertarian, but not quite as out there crazy as the libertarian party.  When it comes down to it, the republicans being moral police and taking away civil liberties is more important to me than the democrats taking my money.  It's not a perfect world, I'm just choosing the lesser evil in my mind.   
Nov 16, 2007 9:11 pm

One more free trade rant:  I think there are 2 types of people who believe that trade sanctions on Cuba are a good idea:  pissed off Cubans and cynical politicians trying to make sure that they carry Florida.  

  Am I missing something?  Have trade sanctions worked?  Ever?  
Nov 16, 2007 11:38 pm
EDJ4now:

… but I find Iraq and the arrogance (hubris) of this administration unforgivable. 

   

I'm not interested in a debate either, but whatever you think of the administration, it won't be on the ballot in '08. Therefore a preemptive strike against all Republicans running makes no sense to me.

I find myself in total agreement with Joe Biden's comment from last night, even though he was joking; there's not a Democrat running that I could support. The fact that Clinton comes as closest to my definition of reasonable of all of them on the subjects of the economy and national defense doesn't mean much, she's still two standard deviations away.

Now, if they could get Lieberman to run for president..... then again, they walked away from him during his last senate race, to their eternal shame.....

Nov 17, 2007 3:14 am

eternal shame?

Nov 17, 2007 5:57 am
mikebutler222:

[quote=EDJ4now]… but I find Iraq and the arrogance (hubris) of this administration unforgivable. 

   

I'm not interested in a debate either, but whatever you think of the administration, it won't be on the ballot in '08. Therefore a preemptive strike against all Republicans running makes no sense to me.

I find myself in total agreement with Joe Biden's comment from last night, even though he was joking; there's not a Democrat running that I could support. The fact that Clinton comes as closest to my definition of reasonable of all of them on the subjects of the economy and national defense doesn't mean much, she's still two standard deviations away.

Now, if they could get Lieberman to run for president..... then again, they walked away from him during his last senate race, to their eternal shame.....

[/quote]

Re Lieberman, I agree.

As for the Republican candidates, I'm struggling with aspects of each of them.

Fred Thompson has promise, but when it came time to make the tough choice he was afraid to vote for impeaching Bill Clinton.

At least Rudy has shown he knows how to handle a crisis.
Nov 17, 2007 6:33 am

Re Lieberman, I’ll agree also…a voice of reason in a sea of fools.  He was the one Democrat that I felt could be a serious threat to Bush in the last election, but apparently his own party doesn’t like him…or I guess his FORMER party doesn’t like him.

  ...at least the voters in his home state like him...
Nov 17, 2007 7:00 am

Call me a cynic, but they probably didn’t like Lieberman because he made too much sense and had too much integrity…

Nov 17, 2007 7:01 am

Nov 18, 2007 5:13 am
Indyone:

Interesting…apparently I’m going to vote for a Mormon…

  I dont get it.  Why is this always the issue with Romney.  Are we voting for a Sunday School teacher or the President of the United States.  I just dont get it!
Nov 19, 2007 3:48 pm

Dividends… Would you feel the same way if he was Islamic? I feel religion shouldn’t be the number one reason… But If you feel his religion is a CULT it might be… Just a thought…

Nov 19, 2007 4:23 pm

The only way I make religion an issue is if (1) The candidate's belief system is in significant conflict with my own personal philosophy and/or (2) I have serious doubts about the candidate's ability to separate church and state.  I'm not saying this is or is not the case with Mitt Romney...I simply haven't made a call on that issue as of yet.

Nov 19, 2007 10:17 pm
Seperation from Church and state! This country was founded on  the Bible.   We should all make or votes based on what the Bible says. God's word has never been wrong.     
Nov 20, 2007 12:41 pm

[quote=Greenbacks]

Seperation from Church and state! This country was founded on  the Bible.   We should all make or votes based on what the Bible says. God's word has never been wrong.     [/quote]   Does the Bible say we should steal the land from the indians, or cheat them, or kill them?    I ask because that's how this country was founded and expanded. And the people who did that were thumping their Bibles as they did so. Their authority to cheat and kill indians came from God. Of course their motivation was much more earthly; greed.   "God's word has never been wrong."  You might want to run that by the descendents of Nez Perces, Sioux, and Navaho just to name a few.
Nov 20, 2007 2:13 pm

Nov 20, 2007 2:34 pm

I’m hoping his little bible poem was sarcasm. 

  Also, Joe, not only the American Indians, but what about all the people killed in the name of God in the last 1000+ years in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America?  Between the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition to the Conquistadors there's been a lot of blood shed.    There's also been a lot of what I consider "shakedowns".  I was listening to a story on NPR the other day about Midieval Europe.  The pope at that time decided that people could buy absolution, and sent a priest or friar (whatever they're called) to various villages across Europe to tell people how they could be free of their mortal sins for a price.  Folks lined up around the block and the Vatican's coffers got all the fatter.    To me it's not about arguing whether or not the bible is a good ethics text, but the problem is how it's interpreted, and how people get wrapped up in the dogma.
Nov 20, 2007 2:42 pm

Hey Hey… Now don’t ruin my post… This is a great website WWW.GLASSBOOTH.ORG  Please visit the site if you have questions about selecting a presidential candidate.

  Nothing more.. Nothing less.. I found the site helpful and I think others might as well.   Miss J
Nov 20, 2007 3:30 pm
Big Taco:

I was listening to a story on NPR the other day …

  Well, there's your first problem.    I was listening to an NPR story the other day that detailed how only the right side of the blogosphere spreads vile rumors and calls people names. They couldn't find a single example of the left doing anything of the sort. The "reporter" was a part-timer for NPR, the rest of the time he "reported" for "The Nation".  But I digress.....  

I assumed the post you're referring to was sarcasm, and as a committed agnostic, I have no dog in this fight. However, when I hear people trot out the line about how many people have been killed in the name of religion, I’m reminded how many more have been killed in the name of political ideology (fascism, communism) and how some of mankind’s greatest acts of selflessness and charity have been done in the name of one religion or another….<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Nov 20, 2007 3:36 pm

[quote=MISS JONES]Hey Hey… Now don’t ruin my post… This is a great website WWW.GLASSBOOTH.ORG  Please visit the site if you have questions about selecting a presidential candidate.

  Nothing more.. Nothing less.. I found the site helpful and I think others might as well.   Miss J[/quote]   Sorry, I think I started this.  Telling a group of brokers that you are voting for a democrat is like throwing a bloody carcass into a shark tank.  You know it's going to get very ugly very quickly.
Nov 20, 2007 5:10 pm
mikebutler222:

[quote=Big Taco] I was listening to a story on NPR the other day …

  Well, there's your first problem.    I was listening to an NPR story the other day that detailed how only the right side of the blogosphere spreads vile rumors and calls people names. They couldn't find a single example of the left doing anything of the sort. The "reporter" was a part-timer for NPR, the rest of the time he "reported" for "The Nation".  But I digress.....   I agree that NPR is left leaning.  But sometimes they have some good stuff.  I was laughing out loud in my car the other day when someone was interviewing Stephen Colbert.  In Stephen's book he made a pie chart comparison of NPR radio programming to commercial radio.  A large piece of the NPR pie was "Word Jazz".     

I assumed the post you're referring to was sarcasm, and as a committed agnostic, I have no dog in this fight. However, when I hear people trot out the line about how many people have been killed in the name of religion, I’m reminded how many more have been killed in the name of political ideology (fascism, communism) and how some of mankind’s greatest acts of selflessness and charity have been done in the name of one religion or another….<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

  I'm not agnostic.  I have spiritual beliefs.  But I'm not at all religious.  I do think that churches are good for a community as it brings people together, and they help with community projects, and give a lot of people hope.  I agree that political ideology has racked up its fair share of murders, too.  [/quote]
Nov 20, 2007 6:11 pm

I too thought the post might be sarcasm. However, in the past some have espoused some strong religious beliefs on this site.

  Regardless, white man didn't kill the Indians because of religion.  White man used religion to justify what they were doing to the Indians. Right down to Manifest Destiny. God intended the land to be ours, so we're taking it. And so we did.   The biggest mistake the Nez Perces ever made was nursing Lewis and Clark back to good health. If they could have seen 50 years into the future they would have realized that the best outcome for them would have been to kill Lewis and Clark, or to at least let them die. Actually, even if these Indians could have seen what white man would do to them, they most likely wouldn't have done anything differently. It's the kind of people they were.      
Nov 20, 2007 8:58 pm

Very interesting on the Lewis and Clark, Bond Guy.

Nov 21, 2007 1:23 am

Just read the book “Mayflower”. Seems the Pilgrims/Puritans decided it was The Divine that wanted them to literally burn to death Indian women and children. Nice–even brought home a Native scalp in a bloody white linen that was raised up as a flag over Plymouth!!

  As a believer, it always scares me when people think it is God talking to them. And the Bible as modern law is laughable!!! Just read Leviticus!!   I am sure the guy was joking (please).
Dec 6, 2007 7:49 pm

This was such a good website… Thought I would bring it back up…