INTEGRITY and TRUST (Public PM's)
Word of warning: You might use caution before sending anyone a
PERSONAL Message.
Consider PM's to be PUBIC Messages instead since you may not be able to trust the person you send them to and the person you share pm's with may not have any honor, integrity. You may have good intentions in sending a friendly note but do not respect in kind response. For example, I liked reading joedabrkr's posts and no ill feelings toward him but finally, it dawned on me how hostile he is towards me. Finally, came to the conclusion that we just can't communicate. Period. If a person doesn't delete your pm's: that might tell you something. Blackmail? Saving them for retaliation? Who know's? It doesn't make you feel all warm and cozy nor want to trust a person who does this, though; does it, even if you want to think the best of them and give them a benefit of a doubt.
You would like to think that you can trust your financial advisor, accountant, doctor or lawyer.
I made the mistake of thinking I could share PM's (I thought of them as personal messages) without having them publicly posted.
The first incidence was when Pratoman told me that Bobby Bully was getting to him and I was concerned that Bobby Bully would be banned. I sent him a message and encouraged him to show respect for other posters or he could be banned, he immediately posted my pm. Incidentally, similarity of traits in others here, too: I agree.
However, I will have to believe that joedabrkr isn't Bobby Bully since he told me he isn't him. I'm sure he wouldn't have posted my pm if I hadn't blocked him from responding. I publicly apologize for this. I might have vented my anger towards the cyber bullies unfairly on him alone. I apologize for this. It's obvious pratoman and Bobby Bully are the same person.
I will use caution with pm's in the future since you can't automatically think that the pm's are between you and someone else and that the other person is as nice, trustworthy as you are.
Use CAUTION with PM's (that is, PUBLIC pm's). For that matter, even email: it does make you wonder that people who are trusted with handling someone's financial business can't even be trusted with a PM, doesn't it. Reflect caliber of people in this career field.
Too bad people can't be trusted, too bad that people don't have your best interests at heart (caution when selecting a financial advisor!); too bad people don't have honor or integrity.
For the people who weren't bipolar aliases and who did have a kind word for me (anonymous? starka): thank you! I apologize if I mistaked you for a cyberbully.
I only post a pm as I did if someone unfairly implicates me. But unfortunately, my natural instinct is to be trusting but sadly, people have their own agenda and hidden motives: one must be reserved, use caution and not readily trust others.
I've learned much more about human nature after experiencing the cyberbullies here.
People without God in their life are inherently evil, in my opinion. We must pray for them.
I'm sure others have learned from what I have experienced here on this site. BEWARE of the cyberbullies lurking and ready to pounce at a moment's notice. Hey, just be nice and send them a little friendly pm and tell them to have a nice day (afterall, they probably don't have any clients)!
You should be smart enough to understand that whenever you commit something to writing in an email, letter, pm, or text message and then send it to someone else you have also made it available for them to share with others.
There is no “secret contract” that forbids the posting of PM’s. Although generally the term “private message” would imply otherwise.
Perhaps if you were not so annoying and did not fill people’s inboxes with such venomous filth(after publicy accusing them of being ‘bullies’) they would not feel the need to post your pm’s?
I think it’s good that people on this board are getting to see what you are really like. Here’s an oldie but a goodie from way back in March(obscenities edited for public decency):
<span =“lgText”>Subject: i DISLIKE u.
really dislike you and anyone like you who tries to control who posts
on forums like they have to get YOUR approval, JERK! You are the MORON.
You have a low IQ because you are a very hateful bitter person with no people skills. An asshole on the Internet is really an (bleep)hole.
nothing else to say to you.
ok, I guess I'm a PM bully. The truth hurts.
The End. Case Closed. You Win.
Have a nice day!
And you’re not very smart.
What he forgot to say was that I didn't initiate the PM without prompting: the pm was AFTER I was cyberbullied so I returned the favor but I'm not one to publicly humuliate, I just prefer to tell the person what I think via pm's.
Of course I'm not a PM Bully: I just know this is a lose:lose situation so I'm giving the site back to the cyber bullies to bully all they want...but not you joedabrkr, of course, you're not a cyber bully: as you say, you are only a victim of vicious (of course, unwaranteed) pm's sent to you with no provcation on your part.
So when sending you a pm, it means "public" since you will probably post it. Thanks for explaining.
I get it now: if someone posts and one responds "pathetic moron" it just means they are exercising their free speech rights. "You don't have a right to post here! <derogatory, bash/trash comment......<> edited out.
This forum means nothing to me; no interest. As I plainly said: just Don't take kindly to being bullied. By the way, all of the attention and adoring affection from my fans was in topics that I initiated. (But that will be our little secret...shhhh).
BTW: I like u best of the cyber bullies: u are just a harmless grump.
I've unbanned u: feel froth all the venom my way you want without worry of me ever posting your pm or accusing you of stalking. For I prefer for the sender to TRUST me and consider the communications just between me and the sender/recipient: but that's just me.
Isn't he adorable, folks? He's like a little, cuddly teddybear (covered with spikes!...oops, that slipped..little joke.)
The End. Thanks for sharing. Byebye now.
Let’s hope it’s “bye bye”
If the forum means nothing to you, as you say in your post above, why do you spend half your life on it. I have seen posts by you, that are timestamped at 5:30 in the morning.
You are a lunatic and an idiot
Go away. Oh I forgot, you dont have the ability to do that, do you. Even though the forum means nothing to you.
[quote=parachute]
the pm was AFTER I was cyberbullied so I returned the favor
I get it now: if someone posts and one responds “pathetic moron” it just means they are exercising their free speech rights. "You don’t have a right to post here! <derogatory, bash/trash comment…<<deleted cyber bully comments, etc.>> edited out.
I was briefly expressing my opinion. There’s a big different between a two word comment and “cyber bullying”. You’re way too sensitive to be posting here. Your reaction, too, was completely out of proportion to the supposed offense.
This forum means nothing to me; no interest.
The End. Thanks for sharing. Byebye now.
[/quote]Parachute (aka Freedom Advocate): GO AWAY
[quote=farotech]Parachute (aka Freedom Advocate): GO AWAY[/quote]
I second that, lets start a petition.
I'll gladly go away.
I don't care for the caliber of people who post on this site.
Pure filth.
Bye Bye!
Now I know you will post and post to attempt to get me to stay ...but
I'm leaving and
Wish you the Best!
May God forgive you for your evil ways. Repent before it's too late.
Shalom
let's see how long it lasts this time. anyone got an over/under?
Thanks so much Tri SIN. No need to try to get me to encourage to post. Repent from your sins, Tri Sin before it's too late.
bye bye now!
SHALOM! :-)
" Look at the real suffering in the Middle East. Consider the real economic poverty of many earth humans. Even Nature is threatened. Everywhere we look, a small gesture on our part can make a difference.
Let us deploy our sound mindfulness to celebrate the moment and not manufacture a mockery of the gift of peace, rather, enjoy this day in gratitude.
And forgive me, everyone, if I have offended you, and I do not begrudge anyone. God bless us all. Amen. "
Thank you!
Goodbye all. I'm leaving.
If you continue to 'encourage' me to stay: here's my response
kiss my cottage cheese ass.
Bye now!
I don’t think you can leave. If you could you would have about 40 post back. I don’t know what you are getting from this but you certainly are entertaining.
hmmm, you shouldn't be allowed to spend money until you can spell it.
Sure I can leave: just shut the hell up!
.....oops,
Bye Bye!
See! You can’t stop.
Paracite’s Lithium level has fallen out of the therapeutic range.
[quote=Billyclub]See! You can't stop.[/quote]
Hmmm, I see. Well, don't respond to me and maybe I will.
Bye Bye!
Wow, her last goodbye lasted a whole 6 minutes. That’s gotta be a record, even for her
tell your anti-Christian aliases to quit accusing me of being anti-Jew
and maybe I might leave, putz.
Pratoman is pure evil along with his bully bro alias. Perhaps joedabrkr is an alias, too: notice how all three of them stick together. Ohhh, we're really fooled here, aren't we?
Shalom! :-)
parachute (aka freedomadvocate, goforbroke, etc)...everyone here wants to ask you a question, and that is...
WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM?????
I don't care for anti-Christian cyber bullies!
That's my problem!
byebye!
Where did you pull "anti-Christian" from? You have to be the most insane person I have ever talked to on the Internet.
First you claim to be a black male and accuse everyone of racism. Then you take on a Christian persona and accuse everyone of hating Christianity!
GO AWAY!
WE'RE TIRED OF YOUR BS!
[quote=farotech]
Then you take on a Christian persona and accuse everyone of hating Christianity!
[/quote]
Actually it claimed to be a Jewish Christian, pretty much agreed it is definitely a nutcase in all it's personas.
[quote=ExPropTrader][quote=farotech]
Then you take on a Christian persona and accuse everyone of hating Christianity!
[/quote]
Actually it claimed to be a Jewish Christian, pretty much agreed it is definitely a nutcase in all it's personas.
[/quote]
I'll bet it's Joedabroker.
Oh, you think this is all Joe Broker taking multiple personnas? Wow, that is a wild thought.
[quote=rialsoon]Oh, you think this is all Joe Broker taking multiple personnas? Wow, that is a wild thought. [/quote]
Could this be the newest incarnation?
Interesting how this Army of One is so "organized".
Look's familiar:
copied from a link:
October 15th, 2004, 15:42 Before you waste too much of your time on this jughead, you might find this entertaining if not enlightening...Sites dedicated to exposing this knucklehead:
http://www.nodeity.com/tulbure.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maxim...uminati-Exposed
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MyStockforum-Exposed
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Solomon-Tulbure-Exposed
Forum posts that demonstrate what a miscreant he really is:
http://www.seo-guy.com/forum/thread2784.html
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=3503
http://www.ihelpyouservices.com/for...10&pagenumber=2
http://forums.seochat.com/showthread.php?t=15274&page=2
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=37780#post37 780
There actually is a lot more information available - this should start the reader on a path that will allow him/her to connect-the-dots.
My only purpose was to warn the unwary of this shameless thief who has hurt and defrauded others throughout a long history of forum spamming, bashing etc.
The only reason he registered here is to get Google to pick the links for his cheesy websites.
HE starts a website, hypes it up, collects peoples hard earned money, and then drops it like a watermelon and moves on to his next scam, leaving all the members with the bag.
His last website's stock picking abilities were sophomoric at best. His track record was a figment of his imagination, and HE CREATED HIS OWN FOLLOWING!!! People would think members adored him, but and his testimonials were by him, and his fans were him with out screen names.
Be wary. thedude October 17th, 2004, 14:44 Ah, so you remember.
He registered under that alias, vb3dev.com, and mymatchmakercom around the vBulletin community. It wasn't until he was severely banned that he finally left us all alone.
I could swear that there was a ruckus with him here, but I can't remember. I just remember someone at vBulletin talking about him as well over here. Some of the stuff he's done has been even more ridiculous then when we were dealing with him. Now he tries to get people's money and drops the service that it was on. He still is up to his old shenanigans of stirring up the religious pot and posting where people don't want him.
Fortunately I haven't lost any money to him, though I know people that have.
He's still calling people sheep: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=37780#post37 780 He was already losing reputation value before he posted that, and when he posted that he plunged way down, so much so that because of the reputation system he can't post links in his signature, so he decides to make people increase his rep: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=37681#post37 681
That entire site is filled with all kinds of lies from him. Like how one of his cheesy websites was going to become a PR8 or 9 in the next Google update. The next Google update reveals that he is a PR2. :p
Anyhow, Max is still around (and unfortunately) kicking. Now that IPB has gone paid I suspect that he'll eventually begin using something else. I have to pray for Ikonboard, PHPBB or whatever piece of software he decides to use. The devs will have an interesting time.
He does provide good entertainment value though, particularily when I (or others) have uncovered him and he throws a fit. :D Unflattering postings
If you produce a commercial product, at some point someone will not like what you have created. It might be a minor quibble, or it might be a full-fledged panning and disassembling of your entire product line, corporate organization, ability to survive, and the harm to house pets your product might cause.
The first thing you must do when this happens is; Laugh. You're never going to please everyone. The Internet allows anonymous commentary on all subjects, and many people that that anonymity as license to spew venom. Also, many people believe they are amazingly funny people, and bashing ... is the height of humor for them.
Someone, maybe even a lawyer has a really bad case of cyberbully alias bipolar disorder. Seek help.
[quote=Bobby Hull][quote=ExPropTrader][quote=farotech]
Then you take on a Christian persona and accuse everyone of hating Christianity!
[/quote]
Actually it claimed to be a Jewish Christian, pretty much agreed it is definitely a nutcase in all it's personas.
[/quote]
I'll bet it's Joedabroker.
[/quote]Good one Bobby.
Of course that wouldn't be possible because of course everyone knows that you and I are the same person.
Of course I'm wrong.
Why joedabrkr is only joedabrkr: he told me so himself! And of course, he doesn't lie, he is very trustworthy (wouldn't think of posting a pm--nope not him), a man of honor and integrity, a Mr. Nice Guy to the core! If he has a complaint about you, he will address it "privately" in a pm: he isn't one to bash/trash or cyber bully, nope, not he. He is by far the nicest poster, outside of the Jack Handy Silohette guy.
However, Pratoman, on the other hand, is the most bipolar character on this site! Pratoman will call up his cast of evil aliases to "gang up" and bully: of course: there's Bully Bouncer, Dust Bunny, OLd Lady--well, there's so many scores and scores of aliases, too numerous to mention: he might have learned latin when he was brushing up on his Hebrew for his bar mitzvah since he wasn't sure if he wanted to be Catholic--a severe Bipolar disorder, you see! My mistake in thinking he was a lawyer: it's just the bipolar disorder, you see.
Well, see how chummy he is with the Bully and you saw the pm. Is this bipolar disorder or what! He was nice to be (believe it or not!) in a pm and you see how easily he trashes/bashes me now.
Nope, jeodabrkr is just a grumpy copycat and hangs on to the coat-tails of pratoman and Bobby Bully since he just wants to feel wanted and likes the extra attention. Too bad they have to gang up on a innocent bystander, a woman at that who wanted to leave the site but they just kept on cyberbullying her since that's how they got their jollies, brutalizing, tormenting women and using lots of socks! Nope, joedabrkr is under a bad influence and is too nice a guy to act like these bipolar sickees. Turn back Joedabrkr before it's too late! Let's pray for him otherwise he will succum to the evilness of these cyberbullies!
Severe Case of Bipolar Disorder:
[quote=FreedomAdvocate]
Well well well
looks like prato man has definitely changed his mind about his devil bro: here's what he thought about him, before:
Unlike <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><?:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 />Hull the troll, I work for a living. <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><?:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O />
f**k himm. Lets get everyone on the boards to gang up on him. (yeah, the cyberbullies are good at ganging up, aren't they!)
......
He should be banned. He distracts from the real purpose of the boards. And he riles up type A's like myself. If I met him face to face, I would beat the sh*t out of him, then spit on him as he lay there holding his balls. He would be Clarice, and I would be Hannibal Lechter.
Ok, gotta go, onto the boards to see if that motherf**ker is trashing me again.
Suzie is not only a lesbian, which is fine, she is also an idiot, which is notShe is an idiot, almost as dangerous as people like Bobby, who sells Equity Index Annuities with big expenses and loooonng surrenders, with little upside, and no downside, but only if you dont die before the surrender period, to little old ladies.
Alth0ough I must admit, he seems to be softening up a bit on the boards.
But he's still a dick.
As far as getting Joedabroker on my side, no need. I really try not to even get into the bashing bulls*t, (oh really! you could have fooled me!!!!) its just sometimes, when I run across a guy like Hull, I cant help myself.
I am also not bothered by people who use more than one screename. (oh really!)
There would be no reason for me to post your PM's on the board. (oh really!)
[/quote]
Pratoman is Meshugah !
or is he
Vita Luna !!!
He is definitely bipolar, no doubt about it!
It’s really pretty sad, when you consider somewhere under all the weirdness evidenced here, there’s a person in full meltdown mode.
if you consider yourself a “Christian”, parachute, you are giving Christians a very bad name.
It(parachute/goforbroke) is simply bored with it’s pathetic life and is trying to stir up life on it’s thread again…nothing more than that…
Nope, I'm just exposing the BIPOLARS on this site.
But happy to report that joedabrkr, of course, isn't included in this group, no sireee Bob, not Mr. Nice Guy. Why he's been this nicest guy around! He's been one helll of a saccarine, sweetnlow, equal and splenda guy!
God doesn't take kindly to cyberbullying, either!
http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/denominations/prot estantism.htm
Well, the one on the right was on the leftAnd the one in the middle was on the right
And the one on the left was in the middle
And the guy in the rear was a Methodist
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/theoneontherightis ontheleft.html
Amen! Actually, I'm just a protestant but do think Jews for Jesus are kool.
Shalom! And Amen to that! ByeBye: I really must leave now. I DO have better things to do. I really, really enjoyed the little NICE community you have going here (not!) It was a real enjoyment! PS:Fine, leave then, knowing you may have unfinished work here exposing the cyberbullies - leave the rest of us unprotected, embark upon your expanded exploration of the world of spirituality in cyberspace, but know that Protestants too have their moral obligations; if what you saying is true about God's dislike for such behaviour, and if you do indeed possess some special insights or ability to effect positive change, then leave knowing that you may feel the disappointment or forever bear the guilt of ignoring the plaintative cries of the innocent who pitifully cry out for your protection or worse, incur the wrath of God, Parachute.
If you were a Jew, you might understand, and I forgive you for being a Protestant. Think about it: if you are indeed the seond coming of who they say you are - and have been - there must be some higher purpose.
I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate.
[quote=pratoman]I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate. I will not participate.[/quote]
I agree Prato, I told myself I wasn't going to respond to this unbalanced, bipolar, manic-depressed moron and I'm stickin to it.
However we can talk about it without directly responding to it can't we?
Yes, ExPropTrader, theoretically we CAN talk about it without addressing it directly. Unfortunately, that is in theory only, because in practice it is impossible. That is because it is “nothing”. And one cannot actually discuss nothing. Right?
[quote=pratoman]Yes, ExPropTrader, theoretically we CAN talk about it without addressing it directly. Unfortunately, that is in theory only, because in practice it is impossible. That is because it is "nothing". And one cannot actually discuss nothing. Right?[/quote]
True
[quote=pratoman]Yes, ExPropTrader, theoretically we CAN talk about it without addressing it directly. Unfortunately, that is in theory only, because in practice it is impossible. That is because it is “nothing”. And one cannot actually discuss nothing. Right?[/quote]
Why not?
[quote=joedabrkr] [quote=pratoman]Yes, ExPropTrader, theoretically we CAN talk about it without addressing it directly. Unfortunately, that is in theory only, because in practice it is impossible. That is because it is "nothing". And one cannot actually discuss nothing. Right?[/quote]
Why not?
[/quote]
Never thought about it that way Joe, but then again, I'm you and you're me, and we are all Bobby, right?
Oh, and I alomst forgot, and Pratoman, and VBrainy, and ExPropTrader, are all us and each other!
Hows that for talking about nothing.
[quote=mlpfs1128]
[quote=joedabrkr] [quote=pratoman]Yes, ExPropTrader, theoretically we CAN talk about it without addressing it directly. Unfortunately, that is in theory only, because in practice it is impossible. That is because it is “nothing”. And one cannot actually discuss nothing. Right?[/quote]
Why not?
[/quote]
Never thought about it that way Joe, but then again, I'm you and you're me, and we are all Bobby, right?
[/quote]You have done well, Paduan learner. Being ONE with the soul of Bobby is the source of all cosmic power!
Never thought about it that way Joe, but then again, I'm you and you're me, and we are all Bobby, right?
I'm not. Bobby would never fit into my heels and underwear. He might like to try, and we would all like to see it though.
(just kidding)
[quote=mlpfs1128]
Oh, and I alomst forgot, and Pratoman, and VBrainy, and ExPropTrader, are all us and each other!
Hows that for talking about nothing.
[/quote]
Wait a minute, how did I get dragged into this.
Honestly, this is supposed to be a SERIOUS forum for brokers and trainees. Can't you people go to My Space or something??
This has become a common place for Internet trolls to hang out at. Put down the Mountain Dew and step away from the Doritos. Get a life.
. . . ps Joe I think they just come here because they get a rise out of us. Shun and ignore are the way to treat the trolls.
[quote=mlpfs1128]
Oh, and I alomst forgot, and Pratoman, and VBrainy, and ExPropTrader, are all us and each other!
Hows that for talking about nothing.
[/quote]
The voices are just suggestions. The voices are just suggestions. I DON'T have to do everything the dog tells me.
[quote=rialsoon]
Fine, leave then, knowing you may have unfinished work here exposing the cyberbullies - leave the rest of us unprotected, embark upon your expanded exploration of the world of spirituality in cyberspace, but know that Protestants too have their moral obligations; if what you saying is true about God's dislike for such behaviour, and if you do indeed possess some special insights or ability to effect positive change, then leave knowing that you may feel the disappointment or forever bear the guilt of ignoring the plaintative cries of the innocent who pitifully cry out for your protection or worse, incur the wrath of God, Parachute.
If you were a Jew, you might understand, and I forgive you for being a Protestant. Think about it: if you are indeed the seond coming of who they say you are - and have been - there must be some higher purpose.
[/quote]
I'm protestant ...no, I'm a Jew for Jesus! Heck, I'm getting a little bipolar myself. I've never seen a site with so many bipolars! I'm glad you forgive me. I hope God forgives you! Yeah, no doubt about it: it is true: God doesn't like cyberbullying .... and someday, you might be punished for it!
Leaving now. I do hope crashcourse kicks some cyberbully butt.
For those who love my pm's and want to hang on to them for whatever "sock" (sorry, little joke there!), enjoy! that's fine, keep them for a little souvenir. Whatever. If you think you can cause harm to me: I'm not worried: it's pathetic; but, have at it.
Joedabrkr can have his little community back: I'm done with it. Just as he said: absolutely nothing for me here.
Hmmm, but glad I've proven you do not have to be a "registered rep" or in the biz to post here.
Moderators, thank you for allowing free speech. I do suggest that you not allow cyberbullying: it does violate your member agreement.
You can mention and mention me but I won't post
you can trash, bash, cyberbully me but I will no longer boast
no need for further roast
this site is toast!
byebye now! I forgive those who have wanted to hurt me or cause harm to me in anyway. I even forgive the Bobby Bully, too!
my best advice: Sin no more!
Jesus
oops, didn't finish:
JESUS SAVES!
Shalom.
Amen.
The End.
Hmm, I read somewhere that lying is a sin. Gosh, I’m glad no one lies on this site, like having alter-login names, claiming that they are something they are not… like a broker, or someone who works in real estate, etc. Gosh, I guess claiming that you are something you aren’t - like African-American, Jewish, etc, would be a lie, too. But then again, I guess that Book that talks about lying probably isn’t something that someone who would do these things would actually read or understand. Or accept, as far as that goes.
I’m the first to admit that I can’t live up to all that is in that Book, but I sure don’t flat out lie and then try to lie my way out of it…
Just my 2.5 cents worth.
a new record!!!!!!!!!!
It posted at 6:04pm, saying bye bye, never coming back, done with th board, we can post all we want it wont post any more. Then it posts again at 6:06.
What a f**kin pisser, as they say in the Bronx!
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