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Oct 7, 2009 7:27 pm

What can you take?

 
Outlook contact list?  Copy of statement?
Oct 7, 2009 8:38 pm

Talk very closely with the firm you are going to as a great deal depends on the contract you have with your current firm.  Your new firm will most likely be providing the buyout package to your current firm with legal representation.  Hopefully you kept a copy of every contract that you signed all the way back to your initial hire. 

 
Basically though I think you should be able to take name, address and phone number and that is it.  No account numbers, copies of statements or anything else. 
 
Speaking from the move I made within the past year that is really all you need.  Don't get so hung up on having so much stuff.  Make sure your list is complete with every contact you have and have a very detailed plan in place before you leave. 
 
Any more specific questions please let me know as I just made this move after being at my prior company for 15 years. 
Oct 7, 2009 9:32 pm

if you are joining a protocol firm you can take:

name, phone, number, address and account type

you can get pretty liberal with account type; for example:

Bob smith 123 any street, 1 IRA MFS large cap manager qtrly distrubiton $1,500 a month
bob smith ttee bob smith trust dtd 1/1/99 muni account

just work with the bom on coaching you

dont take files, statements, database, account numbers

you dont need it anyway

Oct 7, 2009 9:40 pm

Just a question - assuming you don't print everything out right before you leave, who is going to know what you took?

Oct 7, 2009 9:56 pm

your supposed to give/leave your firm a copy of the spreadsheet or file WITH account numbers and your copy is WITHOUT account numbers.

typically you resign and leave a copy of list in top drawer of your desk.

Oct 7, 2009 10:02 pm

What if you aren't joining a protocol firm?

Oct 8, 2009 11:44 am
ABOM:

your supposed to give/leave your firm a copy of the spreadsheet or file WITH account numbers and your copy is WITHOUT account numbers.

typically you resign and leave a copy of list in top drawer of your desk.

 
OK, so I leave a copy of the list with account numbers.  And make a photocopy for myself.  Who would know?
Oct 8, 2009 12:00 pm

If you send out prefilled acat forms with the acct nr's......old firm will know....

Oct 8, 2009 12:45 pm

Cant you just claim you got acct number from client statement ?

Oct 8, 2009 12:52 pm
Ron 14:

Cant you just claim you got acct number from client statement ?

 
Or their ATM deposit?
Oct 8, 2009 1:12 pm
noggin:

If you send out prefilled acat forms with the acct nr's......old firm will know....

 
Yeah, that would be dumb. 
Oct 8, 2009 1:13 pm

The issue is one of morals as you will be signing off in your settlement a legal document that all you took was such and such information.  If you want to lie and risk getting caught then that is fine.  Somewhere it will turn up as I have seen it time and time again.  Just take the basics according to protocal and when you leave just get on the phone and ask them the information you need to open the account and get it transferred.  Don't risks some legal issue over nothing.  It really isnt that big of deal to say Mr. Client what is your social, etc. 

 
B24, I am surprised by your comments as you usually seem above board.  I know it is scary to make a move and you think you need a ton of information, but in reality you don't.  Do the right thing so you can sign your settlement with a clear conscience.
Oct 8, 2009 2:15 pm

Agreed with everything above - Your clients will respect you much more when you say to them it is against industry regulation for you to take their file or information with you. 

 
All you need from them is their birthday and social security number plus statement or account number any way.  You should know from memory where they work and what their income range is.
Oct 8, 2009 8:09 pm
B24:
ABOM:

your supposed to give/leave your firm a copy of the spreadsheet or file WITH account numbers and your copy is WITHOUT account numbers.

typically you resign and leave a copy of list in top drawer of your desk.

 
OK, so I leave a copy of the list with account numbers.  And make a photocopy for myself.  Who would know?



I dont know. Poster wants to know the rules so i gave it to them.  Who would know if you copied statements or took your client files?????  the chance is small but why take it when you dont need them anyway.

Oct 10, 2009 5:44 pm

A colleague left EJ and got a letter stating he could not  prospect his old clients. Do they really enforce that?


Oct 10, 2009 11:46 pm
ABOM:

your supposed to give/leave your firm a copy of the spreadsheet or file WITH account numbers and your copy is WITHOUT account numbers.

typically you resign and leave a copy of list in top drawer of your desk.




Almost..............You print out a spreadsheet of your accounts with account numbers. You make a copy of that and take it home. Then you print out a spreadsheet of all your accounts without account numbers. You then walk into your jackass managers office, hand him/her the spreadsheet with the account numbers, show him/her that you are leaving with the one that doesn't have account numbers.

For the more adventurous, you also go to your top 10 clients and change their phone numbers to those of various strip clubs around town.