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Dec 10, 2005 5:45 pm

[quote=joedog]To be fair, EJ does very little IB and underwriting. The bond traders are salaried and they do not receive commissions for their trading positions. Hard to believe, but they really don’t.

However, EJ really does have one profit center - the GPs.

JoeDog


[quote=csmelnix]

Jones has one profit center the IR! COME ON - you mean the underwriting, IB business, and the bond desk aren't profit centers? Wow, you really have been brainwashed.


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Didn't Jones get fined 300K for Bond markups?   It's the Kool Aid 

Dec 10, 2005 5:59 pm

Exactly,

Regardless of how little they do it's a profit center - if it wasn't the advisors would be able to go to other bond desks (through Jones) for more product. 

Dec 10, 2005 6:11 pm
It's all about what's best for the client! Edward Jones Mutual Fund Scandal OverviewFrom the mid 1990s until the present, Edward Jones has had selling agreements with upwards of 240 different mutual fund families. Seven (7) of those mutual fund families became known as Edward Jones’s “Preferred Families” of funds. The Preferred Families included American Funds, Federated Investors, Goldman Sachs Funds, Hartford, Lord Abbett, Putnam Funds and Van Kampen Investments.

The mutual funds in the Preferred Families paid extra incentives to Edward Jones in return for Edward Jones soliciting/recommending its clients to purchase these funds. The SEC determined that the incentives were worth tens of millions of dollars each year to Edward Jones, on top of the commissions and other fees Edward Jones received for selling Preferred Families funds. The incentives proved to be powerful motivators, as more than 95% of all Edward Jones mutual fund sales were made in these 7 Preferred Families.

However, this incentive program was not adequately disclosed to the clients of Edward Jones. This left clients of Edward Jones unaware that Edward Jones had a strong motivation to recommend the purchase of the Preferred Families to the exclusion of the other fund families they could recommend, regardless of the client’s best interests.

Federal and State Regulators Take ActionIn December 2004, Edward Jones settled the charges brought by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC, press release, Order Instituting Proceedings) and, the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD, press release, Letter of Acceptance Waiver and Consent), which are the governing bodies of the securities industry, as well as charges brought by the New York Stock Exchange. The charges involved Edward Jones’s failure to disclose to investors the extra incentives it received for recommending certain mutual funds. To settle the charges, Edward Jones paid a total of $75 million dollars.

On the date that this settlement was released, the California Attorney General (press release, Complaint) filed an additional suit against Edward Jones. The California Attorney General stated that he did not believe that the $75 million settlement was sufficient. The California Attorney General also stated that Edward Jones could have accepted up to $300 million in improper payments.

Edward Jones has also entered into a settlement with the securities regulators in its home state of Missouri. In the settlement Edward Jones stipulated and agreed to findings that it failed to adequately disclose the revenue sharing arrangements to Missouri residents and agreed to pay fines totaling $1.5 million. (press release)

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Dec 10, 2005 6:43 pm

Maybe jones should get fined ANOTHER 300K for bond MARKDOWNS. I recently was asked to bid competitively on several GM/GMAC bonds held by a (former) jones customer. 30 to 50M pieces (not 5s and 10s) and our bids on 6 diff items (GM/GMAC was ALL the cust. held. That’s a whole 'nuther story). Our bids through our bonddesk system ranged from 1 1/4 pts to 7 POINTS better. Yeh, and before y’all start in, the bids were about 30 min. apart. Needless to say that former jones customer is now MY CLIENT. How’s it go? Client’s interest first? Most ethical firm on the street? BULL$T, These Aholes will NEVER be able to recognize the truth.

Dec 10, 2005 8:49 pm

Interesting article in the On Wall Street magazine.  Average income for a Jones client listed at $40K with a net worth of $200K.  Good read for all.

Dec 11, 2005 1:58 pm

"Didn’t Jones get fined 300K for Bond markups?   It’s the Kool Aid"



True, but the traders didn’t earn a dime out of those trades. That went to the firm’s profit center - the GPs. (Less the 30% to 40% payout to the reps).



JoeDog



Dec 15, 2005 5:18 am

The Kool Aid is very strong.................

New Revenue sharing:

GP to new IR "Bend over" it's time you learn about Revenue Sharing........you get the SHAFT, GP'S get the GOLD.................OH, YEA...............

Isn't that easy..................