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Jul 14, 2009 1:15 am

[quote=MJ][quote=Spaceman Spiff]Yep, you’re correct.  I find it a bit strange that at a time when we are bringing in 8 accounts for every 1 we transfer out (stat from a Seg 5 friend of mine) it becomes necessary to raise those fees.  Weddle says that it is because we provide such personal service to our clients and because there are so many steps and people involved in closing those accounts and preparing the tax records at the end of the year that it is a great value for our clients to be charged close to what is the industry average.  I find that statement to be a bit, um, shady.  I don’t often say something like that about Jones.   

  I agree with Bachmann...if a client doesn't want to work with us it should cost them nothing to leave. [/quote] I completely agree. Especially if the reason a client is leaving a firm, happens to be that their FA isn't helping them in anyway. I was actually looking at the transfer fee page on Joneslink today and noticed the note that it will be going up.   Funny thing is, I transferred in 4 accounts for a guy today from Robert Baird and after the FA demolished their account, they charged him $175 per account to transfer it to me. Tell me thats not a load.[/quote]


We just submitted ACAT paperwork on 2 Baird Accounts last week and they told our client it would be $200 per account. 
Jul 14, 2009 1:53 am

The FA working in my office transferred a Smith Barney (maybe Merrill?) account a few months ago. There were separate brokerage accounts set up for each of 8 529’s for his grandkids (among a few other accounts). Not sure why, since 529’s are all held at fund families - he could have had them all linked to one account. Point is, it cost him $90 PER ACCOUNT to transfer them. So yes, it cost him $720. Our FA told him to find out the cost in advance, which he did, and the guy still wanted to transfer.

Jul 14, 2009 1:59 am

Ya my guy paid $700 bucks for 4 accounts. Thats not necessary. I’m still trying to figure out why the client has to pay the crappy advisor, to move to a good one.

Jul 14, 2009 2:44 am

How can these firms even start to justify the fee.  It’s a cheap shot to their clients.  How can one firm charge $35 and another $95.  I guess the 95 fee is from a much more talented paper pusher.

  Consumers need to be aware of how the big wirehouse aren't for the investor anymore or the broker.  I think a lot more brokers are figuring this out and cutting their ties as well as the consumer.
Jul 14, 2009 2:50 am
MJ:

Ya my guy paid $700 bucks for 4 accounts. Thats not necessary. I’m still trying to figure out why the client has to pay the crappy advisor, to move to a good one.

  You are not a good advisor Windy.  He paid $700 to move from one crappy advisor to another.
Jul 14, 2009 3:16 am

You can’t tell me the back office costs have gone up in a deflationary environment. This move by Weddle reeks of protectionism.

This
could be my cynicism but his weekly “corner” and FA feedback forums
have taken an increasingly aloof tone and defensive tone, dismissing
any criticism or critique of him & firm practices.  I wonder if the
market, cost cutting, and bonus brackets are not taking a toll on him.

Jul 14, 2009 3:35 am
hotair1:

[quote=MJ]Ya my guy paid $700 bucks for 4 accounts. Thats not necessary. I’m still trying to figure out why the client has to pay the crappy advisor, to move to a good one.



You are not a good advisor Windy. He paid $700 to move from one crappy advisor to another.[/quote]



WTF is up with you guys and this “Windy” thing. I’m not this a-hole your calling me. Seriously.
Jul 14, 2009 5:29 am

If you have some warm EJ clients, give them a quick call and this may move them on over to you. I like changes for everyone else. Makes life here a little easier.

Jul 14, 2009 11:32 am
MJ:

[quote=hotair1] [quote=MJ]Ya my guy paid $700 bucks for 4 accounts. Thats not necessary. I’m still trying to figure out why the client has to pay the crappy advisor, to move to a good one.



You are not a good advisor Windy. He paid $700 to move from one crappy advisor to another.[/quote]



WTF is up with you guys and this “Windy” thing. I’m not this a-hole your calling me. Seriously.[/quote]



Of course you are. There can’t be two people like that.
Jul 14, 2009 12:53 pm

[quote=Moraen] [quote=MJ] [quote=hotair1] [quote=MJ]Ya my guy paid $700 bucks for 4 accounts. Thats not necessary. I’m still trying to figure out why the client has to pay the crappy advisor, to move to a good one.[/quote]

 
You are not a good advisor Windy.  He paid $700 to move from one crappy advisor to another.[/quote]

WTF is up with you guys and this "Windy" thing. I'm not this a-hole your calling me. Seriously.[/quote]

Of course you are. There can't be two people like that.[/quote]
Jul 14, 2009 1:08 pm

Two people like what?

Jul 14, 2009 1:14 pm
DeBolt:

I have heard that some FA’s left Jones and transfered most of the account but left a minimum ($5) to keep the account from closing. This would leave the next FA in that office having the closing charge applied to their P&L.

  This doesn't work.  The account minimum is the Transfer Tee + Annual Fee.  This way if the client decides to bail we keep the difference.   oh, and I think raising the fee blows.   I hate my bank, insurance company, cell phone company, cable company.  What do they have in common?    FEES!!!!!!
Jul 14, 2009 1:41 pm

[quote=Moraen] [quote=MJ] [quote=hotair1] [quote=MJ]Ya my guy paid $700 bucks for 4 accounts. Thats not necessary. I’m still trying to figure out why the client has to pay the crappy advisor, to move to a good one.[/quote]

 
You are not a good advisor Windy.  He paid $700 to move from one crappy advisor to another.[/quote]

WTF is up with you guys and this "Windy" thing. I'm not this a-hole your calling me. Seriously.[/quote]

Of course you are. There can't be two people like that.[/quote]   You still haven't figured out how to properly use your and you're. 
Jul 14, 2009 2:06 pm

?



You must have loved this “Windy” character, to be projecting him on other people. You could atleast pick someone worth a crap. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, or hell even Ron Jeremy.

Jul 14, 2009 2:32 pm

Remember that time you and Axl Rose wooed that crowd together at the county fair?

Jul 14, 2009 2:40 pm

I’m seriously…

  You need to RESPECT MY AUTHORITI!!!! Chill dudes, I'm not this Windy Fart guy.
Jul 14, 2009 2:47 pm

Hey Windy!  Thought you’d left.  Posting from your Blackberry as you doorknock today?

Jul 14, 2009 2:51 pm

3rd,  Just to be fair to Windy.  He only get 250k rollovers via door knocking so he switched to cold calling which was more effective for him.

Jul 14, 2009 5:17 pm

I feel very welcome to this forum, thanks to this Windy dude. Not sure what he did or what happened but I’m sensing you don’t like him.

Jul 14, 2009 5:39 pm

Methinks he doth protest too much.