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May 3, 2005 4:46 pm

20 years with the same woman, too. I have considered other offers, but there is always that pesky issue of a contract  and a promise before God and witnesses and all. Although for some people a contract is just a piece of paper. I'll retire with Jones and golf with my first and only wife, God willing. I'm sure we'll have enough money although  with every backswing I'll be saying..."damn, if I had only gone Indy I would be so much happier right now." You guys seem to equate bigger payouts and all the BS you talk about as if it brings job satisfaction or eternal happiness. It doesn't. I like my office, I like my job, and no one bothers me. I'm not like you. Can you grasp that concept?

May 3, 2005 5:13 pm

Bill-


I think your loyalty is great, and I am glad you are happy at EDJ.


I have just one comment.  Sometimes I hear you say things that make me feel like you are either one who accepts the status quo as "as good as it gets", or have some deeply internal belief that maximizing your income is somehow inherently wrong or means that you automatically must sacrifice your happiness.


On the other hand you could just be sick of being hassled about your firm.  I would be careful though not to subconciously equate Indy with selling your soul.


May 3, 2005 6:10 pm

Bearcat, going indy is not selling your soul. In my book, taking a check is selling your soul! I think Bill is happy where he is at becasue money is not his God (sorry Ted Jones, you said it best). Sometimes IRs leave because of a purely financial reason. Some never realize that they have the opportunity where they are to create and be part of something bigger than themselves. (Nick Murray said that better too!)


Zacko, I did see the powers of being huddled with a IL rl on Friday..Think I know who it was. Some hurt some are best for all involved. Thanks for the compliment Joe, Sometimes I can be a gentleperson

May 3, 2005 6:13 pm

Guest1


Read my post man!  I said it's NOT selling your soul!

May 3, 2005 6:22 pm

For what it worth, I don't care whether you leave and go elsewhere. I just wonder why there is this desperate complulsion to drag every other Jones IR with you as though you are saving us from the burning flames of Hell itself. From where I sit, there is no lake of fire. In fact, all I see is trees and the odd old-timer zooming by in one of little golf-cart type deals heading for the mall to have coffee. Do your job, switch jobs, switch wives, switch your car, switch your damn golf clubs iof thats what makes you happy. I don't care. It's still the same guy staring you in the mirror every morning and you still put your britches on one leg at a time.

May 3, 2005 7:13 pm

Bearcat, I was agreeing with you! Taking the check is selling your soul  ! On installment even..

May 3, 2005 7:15 pm

Hey Bill,


You're still a dying breed, and that's a transactional broker. Good or bad, and I think there's alot of conflict of interest with it. It's sure not keeping up with the industry.


May 3, 2005 7:28 pm

I stand corrected!  Evidently my reading comprehension deteriorates markedly torward the end of the day.

May 3, 2005 7:40 pm

Ez, I guess your signon says something about your style of business? There is room in this indutry for a lot of different styles. Why throw rocks at any particular one? I am 100% commission based (about 5mil in managed money) and I do not feel as if I am pushing transactions and neither do my clients. A lot of planning, estate and insurance work etc.. You mentioned one time you are newer in the business, keep an open mind. There are a lot of "right" ways to do things

May 3, 2005 11:39 pm
Bill Fakkland:

20 years with the same woman, too. I have considered other offers, but there is always that pesky issue of a contract  and a promise before God and witnesses and all. Although for some people a contract is just a piece of paper. I'll retire with Jones and golf with my first and only wife, God willing. I'm sure we'll have enough money although  with every backswing I'll be saying..."damn, if I had only gone Indy I would be so much happier right now." You guys seem to equate bigger payouts and all the BS you talk about as if it brings job satisfaction or eternal happiness. It doesn't. I like my office, I like my job, and no one bothers me. I'm not like you. Can you grasp that concept?


Mr Bill, and you other Jones Drones....How about HONESTY?


If Edward Jones Investments are so HONEST, WHOLESOME, AND A GREAT PLACE TO WORK,  why haven't they leveled and told the WHOLE TRUTH, to their IR'S, and what about to their IR's CLIENTS, or do they belong to the FIRM?   


Mr. Bill talks about his loyalty to the FIRM, and his one and only wife, well Mr Bill are you as Truthful to her, as your beloved FIRM is to your CLIENTS?


Just because they don't read the "WSJ" according to 3 "Mill" Bill Hill, doesn't mean they don't need full disclosure, does it ?


Just when will Edward Jones  Tell their clients the TRUTH


just do it..................................


Mr. Bill, why haven't you....................said so on here, or to you accept they have done nothing wrong at all?



May 4, 2005 10:32 am

Bill,


To compare a marriage to your employer is ridiculous.  For that comment alone, you deserve to stay at Jones.  You might be loyal to Jones...but if push came to shove--the returned loyalty would surely not be present.  I'd certainly hope you would have come to expect more from your wife than that.  You should be ashamed of yourself for that comment. 


I too like my job.  I like having more products and services.  I like owning my own business.  And yes, I like being paid more now too.


I think it might be time for you to again leave the forum for another month or two and go find yourself again.  You might have a few years on me Bill--but that's all you have on me.



May 4, 2005 10:34 am

Hey Bill,


Your "wife" is cheating on you...it's time to trade "her" in!

May 4, 2005 11:15 am

Bill,


True to the nature of a good Jones salesperson, you make biblical references and direct references to God a couple posts ago.  Good for you.  I think you should stay at Jones.  After all, God is on your side.  All the rest of us heathens who went to the dark side and jump ship whilly-nilly are just evil people.  Jones is the only true firm that does the right thing for its clients.  One day, as a house of cards, all these other bad people and bad firms and loosers who left Jones because they couldn't hack it will be brought down.   When you make a decision, you don't go back on your word Bill.  Not like the rest of those evil ones out there.   


Don't ever even consider leaving Bill.  You are where you belong.  In fact, I bet you'll become a GP if you are still there 10-12 years from now.  


May 4, 2005 12:08 pm

That actually sums things up pretty well, Malcolmtent. I am where I belong. My career is actually very much like a marriage. If you don't have a long term view, you just keep jumping around at the first sign of choppy water. That's all I'm saying. I find it interesting that the 2 guys who left here last year and took a big cheque to do so had both been divorced and remarried in the last year or so before leaving. I actually believe it's a character flaw to move from firm to firm, unless there is a very compelling reason to think so. So, in summary, I don't see you as a heathen, but I do see you as being weak willed. Your opinion of me has been duly noted.As for Dr. PhilZack, thanks for the mental health tip. I'm not 40 yet, but will keep your sage advice in mind for future reference.

May 4, 2005 12:57 pm

You should have called me Malcontent...would have been a better name and I think that was the meaning you were trying to convey  Malcolmtent makes me sound like a guy who lives in a tent.   Actually I live in a nice house, not a tent. 


Also, for Zacko you should have done a play on Wacko Jacko since he is in the news so much.  PhilZack???  Come on.  That's bad.  Were's your creativity? 


Anyway, best of luck.  There's nothing wrong with staying at EDJ if that is where you are happy.  I do look forward to more banter with you in the future.  


May 4, 2005 1:40 pm

Bill,


You have been married 20 years plus and have yet to see 40?  So, based upon what you have told us in this thread--you got married while still in high school?


May 4, 2005 2:02 pm

Jones is a wonderful company for those of, shall we say, limited ability.  You can be told what to do, yet still live above poverty level!  They even tell you to feel OK about yourself!


All in all, it's a place where mediocrity reigns supreme.

May 4, 2005 2:21 pm

20 exactly, actually. I was 20, yes. Would you like my birthdate? Where I come from 20 was about right for trailer park trash like me. How about a blood sample. Excellent detective work, Zack. You are another Magnum PI in the making. As for Phule, I would guess that I live a bit over the poverty line, but stick to your own ideas if that works for you. I wonder if the little voices in your heads tell you that slamming EJ daily and ridiculing their brokers will make you feel better about your inability to be comfortable with your decisions. Jones is a good fit for a guy like me, and I plan on sticking around rather than leaving for 20 pieces of silver.

May 4, 2005 3:33 pm

Please tell me that Fakker didn't just equate leaving Jones to Judas' betrayal of Jesus.


Now that is......something.........

May 4, 2005 3:59 pm

Ridicule??? Nonsense!  It's to your credit that you recognize your incapacity for higher thought.